Legal Fiddle Brakes for the Rover

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:08 pm

I did this some time ago, and never posted anything about it :roll:

now as I'm selling it I've had to post the pix to show what I've done so I thought I'd throw it up for everyone esle to see

"Road Legal Fiddle Brakes"

By putting a whole new brake calipure onto the axle and it not effecting the current braking system you "by-pass" all the cert problems

and would you believe all it is for a cert is a low level :lol:

all they need to do to pass it, is a visual of the welds

And all you use to run them is a hyd clutch master cylinder, a nice common one would be a hilux one

:lol:

hope this sparks some ideas

Cheers Reece

mercutio · Post by **mercutio** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:38 am

i've been thinking about doing something like this but use air to operate the brakes the theory of using is is that you only really use fiddles brakes to stop spinning wheels so you don't need as much control to operate them i.e. max pressure should stop them

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:05 pm

But if you have good control over the pressure, they can be used as a traction aid.
In that situation, you don't want the wheel locked, just to even the load on the diff between the wheels so they both get drive,as it would in an even traction situation.
It would be simpler to set them up with the hydraulics anyway!!!

eatenfuller · Post by **eatenfuller** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:28 pm

fiddle brakes are overkill on a bush trucks thats why i ripped mine off last weekend its just more crap to break (i only put them on to be a wanker to keep up with the jones's)

different storey on trials trucks i think there a must

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:04 pm

pffft.. brakes are for pussys..all they do is slow you down... :wink:

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:39 pm

So are 36" competition tyres :wink:

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:12 pm

pffft.. brakes are for pussys..all they do is slow you down...

fiddle brakes are overkill on a bush trucks

you've never driven brittish have you .... as somebody who has and has perfected the 10 piont turn, anything that improves the steering circle is good!

its just more crap to break

Have a good look at the brake line garding

1 step ahead of you on that one :wink:

by the way still waiting for that info on independent syspension there EF

Cheers Reece

eatenfuller · Post by **eatenfuller** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:07 am

british yuk did you say ERF yuk :oops:

sorry de-ranged forgot all about it/ BRIAN HOWAT(HOWAT ENGINEERING)O45671471.most 4wd nuts that havent heard of brian should be SHOT he used to make his own air lockers(which grant guy uses in the front of his truck) ,but now he makes hydralic ones (trials trucks only)from cromo axles to spools for street cars theres nothing brian cant do but like anything it comes with a price tag.but see how ya go de-ranged hes a nice guy and will be happy to help mate

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:41 am

Thanks for that EF
I did have his number was going to give him a call for prices on the axles once I worked out what I was doing :oops:

I hadn't thought it was Brain Howat that owned it :lol:

he'll deffinitly be worth calling!!

Cheers Reece

Ps this might be happening a bit faster than I thought as I've possibly just done the engine in my test truck and I've got a lexus sitting doing nothing :twisted:

if I'm going to cert that sort of swop I'll need to do the brakes so I might as well do the syspension as well :roll:

Damm this is shades of "Lemon"... the only thing I'm keeping is the cab!! :roll:

eatenfuller · Post by **eatenfuller** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:49 pm

no worries happy to help and keep posting pics mate (i see nothing past hiluxs) :lol:

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:01 pm

Could ya get the pics up again? and some of your levers.

Cheers

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:27 pm

Landrovers have brakes???????

JTop · Post by **JTop** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:37 pm

Hi Turoa
are you running endless air? I am going to run twin VH44's modified so the atmosphere chamber will become an air chamber so I can air activate them individually, 1 for each rear wheel, they should take 60psi ok and will enable disc fiddles to work
J Top
PS Andy still says I only need 1 caliper to do this and my service brakes

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:52 pm

JTop wrote:Hi Turoa
are you running endless air? I am going to run twin VH44's modified so the atmosphere chamber will become an air chamber so I can air activate them individually, 1 for each rear wheel, they should take 60psi ok and will enable disc fiddles to work
J Top
PS Andy still says I only need 1 caliper to do this and my service brakes

Yea, im convertin an old air con compressor to an air compressor. The VH44 idea sounds interesting. Does it just have a resivoir at one end of the line? And do you have a good supply of VH44's? Im still looking for some :lol:

JTop · Post by **JTop** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:56 pm

It does not need a reservoir because it is plumbed into the service brakes
as approved by Andy
J Top

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:53 pm

hmm, if the galant calipers have enough braking, I might try this.

Legal Fiddle Brakes for the Rover

Legal Fiddle Brakes for the Rover

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