internal or external cage?

[ethan loves toyota]

cant decide whether to do internal or external who knows someone that could build me a cage for a good price in chch also need some other welding jobs done like weld rear shock mounts in weld back on as has been ute chopd and not finnished and need some custom rear shackles made up also need steering box repositiond or flipd any help would be very much appreciated.
its a bighorn with 4.8 hilux solid front s.o.a etc etc

[ClassicCruiserSpares]

Did you buy Richards grey Big Horn? Id put an internal cage in it.

[ethan loves toyota]

yeah i did thats what i was thinkn you know anyone that would do some work on it for me cheapish maybe a few guys ad ill buy piss and meat for bbq lol bit of work though

[suzukisport]

If it’s a full body then I would go internal. If you go external you need the cross bracing, the only way you could cross brace it is drilling through the body for the bars, you need the cross brace for the strength. The cage is there to save you, not to save the vehicle.

[lincooln]

Yea go internal, It can be made much stronger and you dont have to worry about cutting up your bodywork.

[ethan loves toyota]

yeah its probly best to go internal who would do it for cheap? you know anyone?

[Fakey]

If its been ute chopped, is it road legal? With the ute chop itd be easy enough to cross brace the main hoop behind the cab. you can run a brace across the bottom an top of the screen just like you would with an internal an you can triangulate the cage across the roof just like you would with an internal cage. Comes down to what you want to use it for, how much you want to pay (which is f#ck all by the sounds) an who will be willing to build it for you.

puts on flame suit an waits for the backlash of those who know it all

[Big]

If its been ute chopped, is it road legal? With the ute chop itd be easy enough to cross brace the main hoop behind the cab. you can run a brace across the bottom an top of the screen just like you would with an internal an you can triangulate the cage across the roof just like you would with an internal cage. Comes down to what you want to use it for, how much you want to pay (which is f#ck all by the sounds) an who will be willing to build it for you.

puts on flame suit an waits for the backlash of those who know it all

lol I don't know shit..

[rangimotors]

combination of the two, internal for the big/high speed rolls that will save ya and an external/bloody good bar work to protect the rig when on the trail.

[darinz]

If its been ute chopped, is it road legal? With the ute chop itd be easy enough to cross brace the main hoop behind the cab. you can run a brace across the bottom an top of the screen just like you would with an internal an you can triangulate the cage across the roof just like you would with an internal cage. Comes down to what you want to use it for, how much you want to pay (which is f#ck all by the sounds) an who will be willing to build it for you.

puts on flame suit an waits for the backlash of those who know it all

^^ Pretty good advice but must add one thing.
The biggest problem with external cages is the the mounting of the 'A' pillar hoop. This needs to be mounted to either a very strong rock slider or braced very well onto the floor or chassis. Too many that I've seen have all sorts of bends and are good for sweet FA. So as long as you sort this out then a ute can quite easily have a safe external cage. It won't be as strong as an internal but will still be pretty good.

[4WDbits]

Main hoop also has to be quite near to the back of the front row of seats, meaning that in cab chop configuration it leaves bugger all (virtually no) space behind the seats for storage if the hoop is outside the cab.

[chopdpatrol]

External mate ha