terrano suspension

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winding up torsion bars good or bad

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hi, im only new to this site and have a 1991 nissan terrano v6 petrol, i was out mucking around last weekend and keep getting hung up, (bellying out) i thought about raising the suspension a bit, i dont have a heap of money but did think about winding up the torsion bars in the front and maybe some spring spacers in the rear,??? i have herd a few good and bad things about winding them up but cant really see why not?? i only want to go a couple of inches, and the tyre size im running is 265/70/15, and if i run spring spacers will i need longer shocks?? your help is appriciated
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if you are after the cheapest way then winding torsions and coil packers is the way to go... however there are limitations, and alternatives 8)

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I used to have my bars wound up, but like them at the factory setting +10mm space to the bump stop. I hated the rebound and kept spitting out upper bump stops :? :evil:
The rear 50mm lift springs are cheap and easy to fit.
I just fitted and test drove some EFS Elite in the rear, farkin impressed :twisted: am saving for front ones now :mrgreen:
I have some old man emu rear shocks here that are ok but need new rubber or plastic bushes, cheap.

Hope this helps.
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Kiwipete has posted some cool info on this subject.

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winding up your torsion bars is not going to give you any more clearance under the diff. To get more clearance under the diff you need bigger tyres. To fit bigger tyres on a terrano, say 33" you will need a body lift, suspension lift, cut front and rear gurads and a steering up grade/strengthening. Not an easy fix. i know as I went through all this myself and finally bit the bullet and upgraded to a safari. But a terrano on 33" has more clearance under the diffs then a safari on 35", 280mm from memory to be exact.
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sibainmud wrote:The rear 50mm lift springs are cheap and easy to fit.
I just fitted and test drove some EFS Elite in the rear, farkin impressed :twisted:


Mate what are they worth?? Looking for a set myself
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Damz wrote:
sibainmud wrote:The rear 50mm lift springs are cheap and easy to fit.
I just fitted and test drove some EFS Elite in the rear, farkin impressed :twisted:


Mate what are they worth?? Looking for a set myself


I called into Traxion and twisted his arm til he sqeeled like a pig :twisted:

The springs, I got a couple of years ago from Taraxion and got 2nd hand shocks off trade me.
I can't remember how much they were.
The new shocks in round figures were, under $350, with 100,000 k's, 3 year warrenty.

Give the boys there a call. Phil is da man :!:

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albundy wrote:winding up your torsion bars is not going to give you any more clearance under the diff. To get more clearance under the diff you need bigger tyres. To fit bigger tyres on a terrano, say 33" you will need a body lift, suspension lift, cut front and rear gurads and a steering up grade/strengthening. Not an easy fix. i know as I went through all this myself and finally bit the bullet and upgraded to a safari. But a terrano on 33" has more clearance under the diffs then a safari on 35", 280mm from memory to be exact.
Al

Al correct me if I'm wrong but winding up your torsions WILL give you more clearance under your front because the diff head stays in the same place and its the arms that are pushed lower which is what raises the truck and puts a greater angle on the cv's. I would assume i am miss reading your post and that you mean a suspension lift in the rear will not give you and better diff clearance in the rear and the only way to raise your REAR diff head off the ground is bigger tyres.
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hi, thanks all, i just priced raised springs can get 50mm ones for $135+gst but im starting to think maybe a body lift and taller tyres, i dunno ill sort something out, who is close to pahiatua who can give advice on a custom rear bumper with a easy removible tow bar??
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nizmo wrote:hi, thanks all, i just priced raised springs can get 50mm ones for $135+gst but im starting to think maybe a body lift and taller tyres, i dunno ill sort something out, who is close to pahiatua who can give advice on a custom rear bumper with a easy removible tow bar??


Were can you get those springs from!?!? is that $135 for a rear set? thats sounds awesome, i need to raise my terrano up abit and this would be great. them and justwind torsions up and im set.
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u13turbo wrote:
nizmo wrote:hi, thanks all, i just priced raised springs can get 50mm ones for $135+gst but im starting to think maybe a body lift and taller tyres, i dunno ill sort something out, who is close to pahiatua who can give advice on a custom rear bumper with a easy removible tow bar??


Were can you get those springs from!?!? is that $135 for a rear set? thats sounds awesome, i need to raise my terrano up abit and this would be great. them and justwind torsions up and im set.


Hey u13turbo,
You need one of these, so you can leave your torsions quite low.
This what i have. Gives you the ability to bash the front over stuff leaving enough momentum to not get hung up in the middle.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=351937053
Need to bolt the front right through first chassis cross member to stop it popping the M6 bolts out of the captured nuts :twisted:
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sibainmud wrote:
u13turbo wrote:
nizmo wrote:hi, thanks all, i just priced raised springs can get 50mm ones for $135+gst but im starting to think maybe a body lift and taller tyres, i dunno ill sort something out, who is close to pahiatua who can give advice on a custom rear bumper with a easy removible tow bar??


Were can you get those springs from!?!? is that $135 for a rear set? thats sounds awesome, i need to raise my terrano up abit and this would be great. them and justwind torsions up and im set.


Hey u13turbo,
You need one of these, so you can leave your torsions quite low.
This what i have. Gives you the ability to bash the front over stuff leaving enough momentum to not get hung up in the middle.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=351937053
Need to bolt the front right through first chassis cross member to stop it popping the M6 bolts out of the captured nuts :twisted:
Cheers,


That looks quite good, but outta my price range atm, im just after a cheap lift for now. thanks anyway
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u13turbo wrote:
nizmo wrote:hi, thanks all, i just priced raised springs can get 50mm ones for $135+gst but im starting to think maybe a body lift and taller tyres, i dunno ill sort something out, who is close to pahiatua who can give advice on a custom rear bumper with a easy removible tow bar??


Were can you get those springs from!?!? is that $135 for a rear set? thats sounds awesome, i need to raise my terrano up abit and this would be great. them and justwind torsions up and im set.


hi, i can get them through autoline in palmerston north, where are you from?? pm me some details and ill hook you up,
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u13turbo wrote:
sibainmud wrote:
u13turbo wrote:hi, thanks all, i just priced raised springs can get 50mm ones for $135+gst but im starting to think maybe a body lift and taller tyres, i dunno ill sort something out, who is close to pahiatua who can give advice on a custom rear bumper with a easy removible tow bar??


Hey u13turbo,
You need one of these, so you can leave your torsions quite low.
This what i have. Gives you the ability to bash the front over stuff leaving enough momentum to not get hung up in the middle.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=351937053
Need to bolt the front right through first chassis cross member to stop it popping the M6 bolts out of the captured nuts :twisted:
Cheers,


That looks quite good, but outta my price range atm, im just after a cheap lift for now. thanks anyway


Found another bash plate for half the price :mrgreen:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=355485069
:D :D :P :P
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sibainmud wrote:
Found another bash plate for half the price :mrgreen:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=355485069
:D :D :P :P

I'd like that for my truck, but freight would be a killer I think. :?
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kiwipete wrote:
sibainmud wrote:
Found another bash plate for half the price :mrgreen:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=355485069
:D :D :P :P

I'd like that for my truck, but freight would be a killer I think. :?


Keep your eye out for one local, or I will.
The amount of stuff I see on-line down your way too. Shipping always a killer :roll:
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hey people i have heard about swapping the front hubs around pretty much flipping them upside down and putting them on the other side to get more clearance in the front plus it gives u less angle on the cvs in the front can this be done or not?
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and i think you also mean turning the top and lower ball joints???
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According to my thoughts, you would swap right for left and invert the whole hub assembley and put tie rod end in from the other way.
I'm going to look into this next time I have front wheels off.
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would be handy for the front but what about rear?? my diff keeps getting stuck
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nizmo wrote:would be handy for the front but what about rear?? my diff keeps getting stuck


Bigger tires and/or a diff lock works for me :mrgreen:
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hey guys im still having troubles with my tierod ends they still bending i have wound down my tortions still cant work out why they are bending all the time i know i may be a lil rough but they shouldnt bend that easy should they? does anyone have any ideas in strenthening them? or what i need to do to stop bending them
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Inners or outers?
Inners will be the dreaded drag link roll :!: :lol:
Otters will be you too rough :!: :lol:
What side do you bend the most?
Left side is worn idler bushes and/or shaft :!: :lol:
Right side is you being too rough :!: :lol:
Are the tapered shafts touching the chassis rails?
If they are then you are still too rough :!: :lol:
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in a terrano ur allways gona get hung up thats the fun with them is getting the hang of driveing them so wind up the boost and go hard make sure u have a good belly pan and get use to replaceing trans case bash plates haha
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TD power wrote:in a terrano ur allways gona get hung up thats the fun with them is getting the hang of driveing them so wind up the boost and go hard make sure u have a good belly pan and get use to replaceing trans case bash plates haha


Totally agree :twisted:
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the last time i went out bend the idler arm and drivers tierod this time just passengers tierod so i think im gonna change them to rose joionts off a tractor see how that works hopefully i wont bend anything this time :)
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Can you take some photos of the bent tie rods etc and post up on here please?
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leave the tie rods they are good as a week point if u beef them up ur gona bend something thats hard to change
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kiwipete wrote:Can you take some photos of the bent tie rods etc and post up on here please?



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this is the tie rod end that chris keeps bending, he also has 8" wide rims stick out the guards about 50mm
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haha i got about 10 that look like that i never bent eny till i fitted simex
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