moonhopper wrote:Offence:
Dishonestly using a document – section 228 of the Crimes Act 1961
It is an offence to dishonestly take a document or use a document with intent to obtain any property or pecuniary advantage.
Penalty:
There is a maximum penalty of 7 years imprisonment.
there are a lot of people on here that have given you awesome advice - the least you can do is keep us udated regularly. 
by not, and its making your side of the story look a bit dodgy! 
aLUX wrote:oi, keep us updated!!!
You are starting to discredit yourself
And my popcorn is getting cold
mike wrote:Here is what you need to do.
You need to write down all the information you can and I mean ALL of it (don't leave any of it out so the cops dont have to dig - its a busy time of the year) and all the events that have happened in a time line sort of way, also show any relevant information from here (peoples accounts and testimonies of how a recovery service should operate ie acceptable damage excluded etc) any threats of hunting you down etc just everything you can and take it to the police station closest ie cambridge, matamata or katikati. This should now be a police matter because:
A) They have illegally kept your vehicles. It is against the law to take a possession unless they have built or improved it. Holding it in lou of payment is illegal and you have every right to go around and take it back no matter what agreed or non agreed payment is outstanding. Tell the local cop you are heading around to take your illegally held car back. There is jack shit they can do about it to stop you taking it back and if they try and use force thats what call to local cop was for.
B) Forcing you to sign that contract was definitely very illegal and shouldn't be taken lightly.
I just so happen work for the police and have asked for advice and action suggested is as above and go to your local police asap. It is to much to handle on your own.
Damz wrote:...Best read in weeks...
Mudde1 wrote:I need to make a clarification on my earlier post. I should have said that the recovery wasn't done with the authority of the club. the exec of the club had no prior knowledge of the contract.
I also need to make clear that the Simon making comments on this issue is NOT Simon Bishop NZFWDA National President. Simon Bishop is aware of the issue, and has authorized me to comment on this on behalf of NZFWDA.
Tony Burgess
Northern Zone President,
New Zealand Four Wheel Drive Association.
Ph 0274792636 or 09 2980194
Fax 09 2980134
Email nthzpresident@nzfwda.org.nz
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Jerry wrote:6889 views on this thread since the 7th of Jan
Were as bad as the ladies... mostly from me checking to see if theres any cool photos yet...
wopass wrote:yea sorry
AND waiting patiently for a reply from the dudes who did the recoverywopass wrote:yea sorry
monstr wrote:Since this recovery took place they have had a meeting and i know this was dicussed .wouldnt you think someone from the club would make a statement ? the longer this drags on the worst it looks and meanwhile one poor guy is still without his truck"
While i hope its not the case one wonders if this would of happened if they were 'Kiwis" and not obviously immirgrants with english as their second language
moonhopper wrote:I want to hear from the club as to why they think they can charge this type of money to start with, are they GST registered, do they have liability insurance if they damage a persons vehicle while they are charging them to recover it. are there set fee structures in place, these things need answers. if they don't have these things in place they should not be charging people to recover their vehicles.
bobrocket wrote:moonhopper wrote:I want to hear from the club as to why they think they can charge this type of money to start with, are they GST registered, do they have liability insurance if they damage a persons vehicle while they are charging them to recover it. are there set fee structures in place, these things need answers. if they don't have these things in place they should not be charging people to recover their vehicles.
when did you need any of that for a good old CASHY?
Not taking sides but if someone offered me $$ for a tow I'd take it, I'd probably expect a few beers as well
If there were questions about GST numbers, insurance........I'd just leave you there,
Isn't it "all care taken, no responsibility"
Whats the alternative? who else do they call? what are your options when you just don't know? you ring the local club, my tool box is covered with numbers contacts, google, refered to etc etc, I've snapped rental cars in the absolute middle of nowhere, you ring the company, they ring the local 4x4 club, they make a few bucks, life carries on. maybe the old 8k is a bit steep but how about 1k, 5k, whats reasonable, whats your time worth.
If it was my mate, I'd expect a few bucks for gas (maybe), a few beers and I'd try and make him wash the truck, or I'd just wash it in his driveway, how about some random dude in the middle of no-where, or in this case two guys stuck, if it was a simple case of a broken winch wire why didn't he just buy a new one.
What has happened is wrong, maybe they should pay?, for all we know they might of just watched cause they were paying for a service?
At least now we know, if you get stuck don't call the BoP 4x4 club, they charge heaps,
call wopass, he's half their price
