Hijack during off roading! need help

[ClassicCruiserSpares]

Looking at the pics, it looks like a great track and would be a lot fun, in the rite vehicle of coarse , and it looks like you guys were having a good time also up untill this happened.

[wopass]

to go into there for a recovery and out again is a serious undertaking mate, not just a quick tow

any more pictures ?? from the whole trip leading up to the "bomb site" where those pics are taken??

nice cruiser to by the way, looks like its well set up.

[Sadam_Husain]

3. There was a request and an agreement for the recovery of both vehicles between the owners and the recovery team. The verbally agreed price was $3000 and the only claim made for payment has been for $2750 as per a signed contract.

thats a contradiction to the email from the recovery team leader on the first page of this thread

Here is the email from the local 4x4 club leader:

Hi James & Jay,

Let's start with 7 guys @ say $50 per hour for 10 1/2 hours. Everyone who helped on the day, closed their business's for the day to do the recovery.

We needed 4 trucks to pull your heavy vehicles all the way out to the end of the track. Should there be a hourly charge for the vehicles fuel & wear & tear, not counting damage?

On the way we broke 8 straps due to the weight of your trucks & the depth of the bogs that we had to go through on the way back to the car park.

Pulling the 70 through I got stuck in a bog with the mud & water over my bonnet & that killer my starter motor. Also as you know I broke my plasma rope & fried my alternator on the first attempt to recover you.

We broke a steel PTO winch cable on the FJ40 which did a lot of the winching through the triple purchase pulley blocks.

The third truck killed his clutch helping to tow the Prado out.

The last trucks winch was killed whilst pulling your trucks out of a bog. We needed all three winches attached to get it out.

Labour $3675
Straps $720
Starter $450 not including labour to fit
Alternator $450 I fitted this myself
Plasma $400?
Cable $300?
Clutch $600 not including labour to fit
Winch $800? is the cheapest you can buy. This truck also did a couple of fan belts & an idler pulley but he said that was his expense, as they could be sourced 2nd hand.
Fuel etc $400 this includes the vehicles to tow the bush trucks

Total almost $8000....


In total I have spent about four days trying to, fixing, checking & finally recovering your vehicles.

Lets consider your alternative? Fact: we know of a patrol recovered backwards (on his way up to long bog) from the bog closest to the car park (the very steep one) which was charged $8500+GST for a digger to walk in (say 5-600m) & extract him back up that small climb. What would it cost to go all the way to long bog & pull your trucks all the way out from there. Perhaps $20k+ easily..

I tried my hardest to first of all do it myself, with the help of one other. I totally over estimated the magnitude of your predicament & had to call in some experts to help out.

I have also tried my hardest to keep you informed of how hard this would be & that it will be a reasonable expense for your mistake & suggested that you contact your insurance companies to help you with this expense.

We are not holding you to a ransom to get your vehicles back, but feel it only fair that you remunerate us for the extremely hard work that we have done to recover your vehicles safely off Thompsons Track.

I took this job on in good faith that there would be no issue with payment once the job had been completed, I only hope that this is still the case.

We were totally amazed to find the vehicle still intact & not vandalized or stripped the day we walked up, if we had not helped would this be the case??

I would like to hear what you think, but please do not try to negotiate with us as that would be an insult to the huge efforts we have put in to recover your vehicles.

7. The Prado has been picked up & the recovery team are waiting patiently for the land cruiser to be collected. The LC requires some repairs to make it fully driveable and the warrant of fitness is noted as having expired.

does anybody in the real world really think the preson holding the vehicle is getting annoyed at the vehicle not being collected and they are actually getting annoyed at having to wait for their $8k spending money?

8. The owner of the LC has not been able to be contacted and he should make contact with the recovery team to arrange collection of his vehicle. If not collected the vehicle will be handed over to the local police as an abandoned vehicle.

also in the real world I struggle to believe that the vehicle is being treated as abandoned and not as collateral


what a crock of shit the statement from BOP club is, the club has only demonstrared that it wishes to defend and justify the actions of the recovery team and has made no statement about action its taking about its name being used by individuals/members for financial gain and paticularly through the use of a contract using the club name, does that not matter to them?

[4x4girlie]

3.There was a request and an agreement for the recovery of both vehicles between the owners and the recovery team. The verbally agreed price was $3000 and the only claim made for payment has been for $2750 as per a signed contract.

They appartantly left out the word EACH in this statement.

Dont you hate moddern technolodgy... can prove you wrong... with just one click of the mouse


It looks like the BoP club should go into politics, just need to tune up your BS'ing skills

Also... just a quick thing...
when i went to school... 2750x2 didn't equal $3k... things have either changed over the years... that or the BoP clubs rate of inflation is different to the rest of us...

[DaveM]

Hmmm, a racially motivated price hike?

[aLUX]

oi aLUX pipe down. shit of this magnatude doesnt get sorted in 2 days

the guy probably has a bit to deal with.

you discredit youself by ranting

Some good points made with the last two, but if I was in this position I would have had it sorted as soon as my truck was out.
-how could have both groups have let this happen.

Some very bad moves made by the "recovery team".

Some very bad moves made by zero4 and JJS.

Some very bad negotiating and initiative by both!

Some awesome fun had by both, before the sewage plant hit the wind turbine.

[stinky]

Dont know about the rest of you but I wanna go do that track will bring the cash but if we do both ways is 8k enough or do i need 16

[Jerry]

nah you would do a CV in the carpark

[wopass]

Dont know about the rest of you but I wanna go do that track will bring the cash but if we do both ways is 8k enough or do i need 16

boost up bro, we can make a day of it, maybe even find some BOP guys to tow out and make some cash

[tallsam66]

Does BOP stand for Bloody Over Priced ?????

[4x4girlie]

Does BOP stand for Bloody Over Priced ?????

Love it

[flyingbrick]

nah i think its short for Bend Over Please.

[possum70]

i'm enjoying the pop corn

i don' think i've ever seen so many browsers on one topic.

all i'll say is what comes around goes around

[Sadam_Husain]

i'm enjoying the pop corn

i don' think i've ever seen so many browsers on one topic.

all i'll say is what comes around goes around

I forgot to grab that $8k off you when we recovered your sunk surf from the river and towed it home, I'll be round tonight for it

[taz01]

Dont know about the rest of you but I wanna go do that track will bring the cash but if we do both ways is 8k enough or do i need 16

boost up bro, we can make a day of it, maybe even find some BOP guys to tow out and make some cash

i reckon go in from katikati side tow stinky as a dead weight cause he woulda broken a cv by admiring it parked up ....through the bomb site turn round and back out should only take a day ...cost of fuel and no broken gear ...plus cost from welly/huntly and back still should be less than $2750 all 3 trucks......

just noticed 4 guests browsing this thread wonder if they are the disgraced shameful members from the aforementioned topic????

[wopass]

have just been speaking to one of the hard ass nigras (XJ) who has offered his presence to insure the safe and problem free transfer of your vehicle. should there be any problems he will sort them out...the problems that is

[sibainmud]

I was so close to having a front row seat too.

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=22912

Couldn't get any one with suitable truck to go with me tho
If only and I don't have 8k cash

When's the next trip? I'm in

[Bubba]

ORE's best thread, ever!!

Looking at the photo's a lot of things start to click. One has to wonder would they have tried the same if the drivers looked a bit more local or was there some asian tax applied but the local Klan members

[possum70]

i'm enjoying the pop corn

i don' think i've ever seen so many browsers on one topic.

all i'll say is what comes around goes around

I forgot to grab that $8k off you when we recovered your sunk surf from the river and towed it home, I'll be round tonight for it

that was nearly 2 years ago, we had no contract so all i can say is go jump

[sibainmud]

Ross..............the tribe has spoken.........you must leave the tribal council area immediately
No $8,000 for you.

[bobrocket]

On Sat did a trip up Tomos and over as far as the bomb site. This is still a hard and soul destroying track but also one of the best.
Although i love doing Tomos it is getting to the stage where it is not worth the hassle because of all the idiots that go up there in standard road vehicles and then get stuck Every time I go I always end up towing people with road tyres and they dont even have a basic recovery rope as far as gear. Has anyone else just driven around people and left them there? I would feel like a big C Hunt leaving people stuck in the bush at night but like last night 4 trucks spent 1.5 hrs extra in the bush getting people out who should not have been there in the first place.
If I got 1/2 the amount of beer people promised me for draging them out I would be pissed for a month but sadly I am still to get my first bottle.
What do others think? Drive off or help?

charge them as much money or valuables as they are carrying and donate it to BOP 4 Wheel Drive club for track maintance.

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... 8&p=187263

[DieselBoy]

That's what we did on 6th Jan,

You guys look like you know what you where doing, especially seeing as you got that far !!!!!

Reckon if the other truck had a winch, you guy's would have been sweet, just swapped winch ropes over

If ya ever looking at heading down this way again, get in touch via PM, I would gladly have you guy's on a trip, and I would say that just about everyone on ORE would agree!!!!!

Most importantly, don't let a group of wankers put you off, get the remaining truck back and get back out there on the tracks!!! !!!

[J_Dub]

yea not the lwb shopping cart we all thought yous were in..
seem to have enough gear..

[zero4]

to go into there for a recovery and out again is a serious undertaking mate, not just a quick tow

any more pictures ?? from the whole trip leading up to the "bomb site" where those pics are taken??

nice cruiser to by the way, looks like its well set up.

Sorry,mate.

We have wasted lots time at the finger rock(5 hours), we have done the most track at night,so there is no photos after we have passed finger rock.


Thx,I have a similar truck in OZ finished the Simpson Desert,it's a LWB.

[redz driver]

Isnt it about time the others involed in this sham are named

[Moriarty]

http://www.facebook.com/people/Ross-Bolus/832794721

This foto in the facebook page is on Army land, and was taken ( I think) during the Ohakune Fundraiser trip. Looks VERY familiar, Wops, you recall this vehikkle?



(Tui is NOT beer, and is that cheapshit stuff drunk by them wat are too mean to buy REAL beer.)

[wopass]

http://www.facebook.com/people/Ross-Bolus/832794721

This foto in the facebook page is on Army land, and was taken ( I think) during the Ohakune Fundraiser trip. Looks VERY familiar, Wops, you recall this vehikkle?



(Tui is NOT beer, and is that cheapshit stuff drunk by them wat are too mean to buy REAL beer.)

yes it is/was, nope dont remember it and Tui is beer drunk by people that like drinking Tui beer...

[Moriarty]

...................and Tui is beer drunk by people that have dead taste buds...

This is a far more cogent and important discussion that all 10 previous pages, by people who WEREN'T THERE!!!!

[vvilly]

hey Wop ill give you a doz tui for 8k, is it ok if i pop the to on two and tip them out first.

[bruntonjm]

http://www.facebook.com/people/Ross-Bolus/832794721

This foto in the facebook page is on Army land, and was taken ( I think) during the Ohakune Fundraiser trip. Looks VERY familiar, Wops, you recall this vehikkle?



(Tui is NOT beer, and is that cheapshit stuff drunk by them wat are too mean to buy REAL beer.)

yes it is/was, nope dont remember it and Tui is beer drunk by people that like drinking Tui beer...

i looked through my pics, was that the cruiser with the v8 that almost rolled driving across the slope?