70s and 40s Spring Plate's

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:26 am

This may be of interest to someone: If you are then i will sketch out the plan view, with the hole positions etc . Only differance between 40s & 70s is the shocky pins. Also you may find it hard to press such a tight pressing. They are legel if the are pressed , but NOT welded

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:02 pm

I'm looking at doing the exact same thing. Do you have someone who can make these? If so at what price i would definitely take 2 complete sets if possible..........

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:20 pm

I hadn't thought of making any more , but if you insist I could find out if the price of the pressing has changed, as i havn't made any for a couple of years. You would of noticed 2 differant types,A is for the front of 70s &B is for the rear of 70s & F&R of 40s. The threads on the U bolt need to be run down 30mm, which is hard if you don't have a die nut and tube type holder.After market U bolts , have longer threads multiply that X 8 = extra costs.

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:04 pm

I would want to get new u bolts anyway. So definitely keen, depending on price of course. The old plates are constantly getting hung up on ruts etc so this setup would have to be an improvement. Surely there would be a few of us here who would be interested..........

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:31 pm

Check my photos on page 14 . I don't know how to label it as( oldblue's album) Before and after mods.

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:37 pm

great mod..

oldblue.. definitely holla when ya know pressing prices..

h2olova.. ]:-)

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:55 pm

Also, on 70s with factory electric lockers , the rear shockys are on the trailing (rear) of the axle,on none locker type the shocks are one in front and one behind the axle.The front U bolts on 70s need to be splayed about 5degees per side. Give me a day or two to get a price on the pressings.

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:03 pm

:jump: sweet, i'll be twiddlin thumbs waitin..

:lol:

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:17 pm

Me too... A couple of questions though.

1. Why are the angles different from front to back? (90 and 95Deg)
2. Why do you have the 5mm plate insert?

PS. couldn't find any pics on page 14 of users pics?

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:36 pm

H2OLOVA wrote:
PS. couldn't find any pics on page 14 of users pics?

:'-( same!?!

also, whats to stop the tension of the u-bolts pulling frre of the top of the top hat section piece when there are no stays on there? even when out on trail and under punishment? or am i being a chronic worry wart?

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:38 pm

Because the U Bolts on front of 70s are spread 5degrees, it keeps the nuts dead square to the plate.
The extra plate is to give enough thickness for the spring centre nut.
The pixs are in a group, click on the one about Prado spring removel.
Can someone can tell me how to name the album.

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:47 pm

oldblue wrote:Can someone can tell me how to name the album.

sorry oldblue, i'm in the same boat as you, unable to label my album... :-$

do you have a ballpark figure of what the plates may cost?what did they cost you when you had them made?

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:11 pm

Once you go into your album at the top right there is a box with admin options. click on this, then go down to properties. Put your album name in the title box. Then scroll to bottom of page and click on apply. Hey Presto done.
For some reason clicking on the rename album tab in properties doesn't label album. Hope this helps. Still can't find those photos?? what and i doing wrong? go to photo albums-users pics-page 14. is this right?

mercutio · Post by **mercutio** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:48 pm

H2OLOVA wrote:Once you go into your album at the top right there is a box with admin options. click on this, then go down to properties. Put your album name in the title box. Then scroll to bottom of page and click on apply. Hey Presto done.
For some reason clicking on the rename album tab in properties doesn't label album. Hope this helps. Still can't find those photos?? what and i doing wrong? go to photo albums-users pics-page 14. is this right?

thats how you do it i wondered where i was going wrong

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:05 pm

If you look at the endview youll see that there are tryangle gussets ,total of 8 per plate, these are welded from the top plate to the virtical, so ties it all together. Sorry i should do a plan view which would answer these questions. ve named the album ( U Bolts)

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:10 pm

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:41 pm

]:-) that definitely looks the business... any word on price of pressing?

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:13 pm

spring over does away with all of that :wink:

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:52 pm

These spring plate's work out at $80.00 each.
If your interested it would pay you to e-mail me, with the type of cruiser,and whether front or rear or both.

I dont want this to become a public ordering system. Any questions feel free to ask.

Ill be at a 4WDMeeting tonight so wont be on line

oldblue@clear.net.nz

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:41 pm

Any body out still interested ?

$80.00 per plate + Freight

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:15 pm

Thanks for finding out, but a $80 a corner its a bit dear for me. :cry:

LT1-62 · Post by **LT1-62** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:26 am

oldblue wrote:These spring plate's work out at $80.00 each.
If your interested it would pay you to e-mail me, with the type of cruiser,and whether front or rear or both.

I dont want this to become a public ordering system. Any questions feel free to ask.

Ill be at a 4WDMeeting tonight so wont be on line

oldblue@clear.net.nz

Howdy Kevin
Any idea whether they will fit a 60 series? I have moved the shocks in the rear but am running the factory mounts in the front, do these plates retain the same shock position? Could you build the rear plates without shock mounts (would this change the price?) Im actually interested in moving the front shock mounts a little as well, since I have adjustable shocks and the adjustment knob currently interferes with the sway bar on my truck, would you be able to do this? Id need to have a good look to see if there is an appropriate relocation point , but'd be great to know it could be done...

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:56 pm

Here are the full drawings to see if they are OK for your 60s.
Just remember that you can-not do any welding, other than the gussetts, so the main plate needs to be machine bent.

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:56 pm

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:13 pm

Thats a well positioned coaster :wink:

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:56 pm

It was covering the price of the pressing, from my local engineering shop, people might think they would be getting a real good deal at $25.00

LT1-62 · Post by **LT1-62** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:56 pm

Im keen for a set for the front, if we can ascertain whether 60s run the smae plates as the 70s (the spring packs are the same height/width), and whether or not we can change where the bottom shock mounts mount. I'll have a good look tomorrow to see how much the mounts would have to move for the adjusters to clear the swaybar, if worst comes to worst maybe just give me the mounts unattached and I'll sort out where they go...

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:40 pm

I'm pretty certain the front is the same. But on the 60 they have a (not sure what its called so i'll use the highly technical term) thingy that goes around the rear spring. The U Bolts are slightly wider which would change the hole locations on the plates. You may need to alter the "wing width" to accomodate this. Would pay to check this as i'm not 100% sure, but certainly something to watch out for :wink:

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:00 pm

Bear in mind that the 70s U Bolts on the front go east/west, so they need to be splayed about 5degrees on each side.to fit the holes in the plate.
This is why there are A & B Plates. A for the front, B for the rear.

The 40s U Bolts go north/south so both sets are B

LT1-62 · Post by **LT1-62** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:04 am

If I am correct in assuming what 'east to west' is, the 60 series U-bolts on the front are the same as the 70 series.
To make sure we havent got our wires crossed here is a pic of the front of my truck

I am actually second guessing myself on whether this is the way I want to go now since I am also weighing up whether to go the spring over route instead.

If these spring plates will fit in the front of my truck and we can mod the shock mount to fit my adjustable ranchos (at this stage I think simply making it extend out a little further might be sufficient to clear the adjuster nob), then I will probably go with these in the front. My plan would then be to do a U-bolt flip in the rear, and new superior drop shackles all round to give me flex approaching that of (or exceeding) SOA...

70s and 40s Spring Plate's

70s and 40s Spring Plate's

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