V8 Land Rover project

[Pedro]

I wasn't sure what to do with the air conditioning pipes while I'm not using them. Further down the track I was thinking about on board air but can i just cut them back a stick a bolts with hose clamps in the rubber pipes for the mean time or will that upset the pump?


And that's about all for the meantime...

shove a bolt up the hose and clamp it off, the pump will not run unless you put power to the magnetic clutch on the front

Cheers

Pedro

[oldyella]

Needed to shift house after I came home to fine some of my stuff had been stolen by the hories next door

It did however give me a good chance to test out the a frame and have the landy rolling somewhere on its wheels for the first time ever



And I got the rear tails lights mounted when I was hungover one morning



Aiming for ignition next month

[oldyella]

It still doesn't go

Here are some pictures of progress


Fuse box installed and alternator wired




Transmission and Engine oil coolers mounted



Battery Cable good for 200A continous




Battery Box installed at back under deck




Battery Isolator switch



New Door Handle



New striker



Whats this??



Wood grain dash Bull horns burn in



Computer mounted in plastic box behind wood

[Petemcc]

Looking good Pete.

[oldyella]

Getting there...

Need to finish wiring but I think I will jimmy it up first and get it going before doing it tidy incase anything is wrong

Finish fuel lines and mount fuel pump

Plumb oil coolers

Oil change

Use hydraulic crimper at work to put lugs on battery cables tomorrow and install inside chassis

FIRE!!!! Hopefully

Then it'll be driveshafts seatbox breaks and accelerator and DRIVE

[SP450andLE]

Sounds like a good plan. Take a vid while you're at it...

[niblik]

FIRE!!!! Hopefully

doesnt sound that great to me...



how about you just fire it up? looks awesome man.. some nice touches in there..

[oldyella]

how about you just fire it up?

Tried that to day but no success studpid cut loom. What muppet did that

Manage to get some sparks happening at the plugs. But thats seperate of the computer.

Computer seems dead. Doesn't switch fuel pump relay on and off so I wired that continous on. Computer doesn't switch injectors. Ill do some more random wire connecting tomorrow and see if I get any life.

[oldyella]

Got the LR running sort of. Its LOUD. Did some research and I think I have the left and right banks swapped in the firing order. This is because it pops out of the intake occasionally. Backfires out of the exhaust, and generally runs like arse, very hard to start to.

If this is the issue, im surprised it ran at all

When I realised this could be the issue it was dark and raining so will try it the other way soon.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1839486236915

[mikee]

Crikey more misses than hits.

[Overkill]

Got the LR running sort of. Its LOUD. Did some research and I think I have the left and right banks swapped in the firing order. This is because it pops out of the intake occasionally. Backfires out of the exhaust, and generally runs like arse, very hard to start to.

If this is the issue, im surprised it ran at all

When I realised this could be the issue it was dark and raining so will try it the other way soon.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1839486236915

Try changing the timing 180 degrees, or reset the timing completely....front right is #1 looking from the front in to the engine bay

Gonna be a mint machine for sure

[niblik]

great to see it living... well done..

and now..................?

[oldyella]

and now..................?

Continue spending money on it until I can off road it. Perform rigourous offroad testing (MUHAHAHAHA ) until Im happy with how it goes. Finally Cert then USE.

Got it IDLING today... As soon as I opened up the throttle, DEAD. It was almost like the spark cutout. See the video for details.

Later I found it was so flooded it would (sortof) run with the fuel pump disconnected and as soon as I connected it again it would stop firing.

Could it be that the VL fuel pump is feeding it to much when I open the throttle?

Could it be that the computer is in safe mode and this is causing the problem?

Me thinks a timing light might help with determining if the spark dissapears...

Landrovers

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1842886561921&saved

[meatc]

Fuel pressure reg in the injector rail should control fuel so pump should be sweet.

Almost sounds like it could be air flow meter fault putting it into limp mode, will rev quietly to about 2000rpm then die, sharp rev will kill it.

[turoa]

Definitely sounds like afm

I once spent weeks trying to find out what was wrong with my 202 which sounds like it had the same problem. Would run fine if you pressurised rail and then disconnected pump (until it ran out of pressure) but if it was hooked up permanently it ran but was wayyy too rich and missed and farted. Tried everything, even had my dad build an injector flow tank (so we could see what the injectors were doing). Everything looked like it was fine. Turned out one of the pins on the afm plug had come out of the plug (hidden by rubber boot). Pumped so much fuel in the oil got fuel in it.

[oldyella]

Thanks for the pointers. Definately sounds like it is in safe mode then but I thought you could usually still drive with an engine in safe mode. Im going to perform the following checks over the next few days anyway...

Trace injector wiring. Im thinking if I have some wires crossed the injectors could be squirting at the wrong time causing a knock putting the computer into safe mode and making it run even worse than it would if just safe mode.

I will also do some wiring traces on the AFM etc just to try eliminate the cut loom as an issue.

Its possible running it with the incorrect firing order has shagged the AFM and I will try replacing this as a last resort...

[mike]

when mine runs like shit (popping intake etc) its usually cause the AFM has fallen off its rusty hook or the cable tie holding it to the rusty hook on the firewall has broken and is then sitting on a strange angle. put it back up and its as good as gold.

you've got that single black wire on the coil going to power right? its definitely a power wire.

[niblik]

when mine runs like shit (popping intake etc) its usually cause the AFM has fallen off its rusty hook or the cable tie holding it to the rusty hook on the firewall has broken and is then sitting on a strange angle. put it back up and its as good as gold.

oh i am lolin... it sounds like he's just talkin it up and is sayin it for for effect..


but no.


its so true.. love ya style mike..

[lilpigzuk]

when mine runs like shit (popping intake etc) its usually cause the AFM has fallen off its rusty hook or the cable tie holding it to the rusty hook on the firewall has broken and is then sitting on a strange angle. put it back up and its as good as gold.

oh i am lolin... it sounds like he's just talkin it up and is sayin it for for effect..


but no.


its so true.. love ya style mike..

Its like Code for something

Just realised, I have a donor 3.9 powered rangie doing EXACTLY the same thing, but once you get passed the miss (assuming it hasnt stallled and the miss is an engine missfire not the deposit box ) it is good. Will try the AFM I have and see if it sorts mine, if so, send it down and see whether it sorts your prob as well

[DieselBoy]

Trace injector wiring. Im thinking if I have some wires crossed the injectors could be squirting at the wrong time causing a knock .

The injectors on a petrol engine don't work like that, they just "mist" fuel into the intake manifold runners.

They don't inject fuel directly into the combustion chamber at the exact timed postion BTD like a diesel.

As such, they can't "squirt" at the wrong time, but they can leak and dribble causing slight over fueling and strange hot starting

Check your wiring, but you can pretty much rule that out I reckon.

[oldyella]

Check your wiring, but you can pretty much rule that out I reckon.

Yea I thought thats how they worked. Was thinking perhaps I had the left and right banks backwards but no they seemed correct.

Have also checked Oxy sensor wiring, TPS wiring and AFM wiring. Found a fault with AFM wiring but still didn't work wired the correct way... Plug seems to be fine.

you've got that single black wire on the coil going to power right? its definitely a power wire

Yep black is going to power. Maybe I need a rusty hook and a cable tie. I wish mine was that easy to fix

[SV1K]

Maybe I need a rusty hook and a cable tie. I wish mine was that easy to fix

It is with a stick of dynamite! Problem solved...

Sorry just had to liven it up a bit...

[meatc]

. Found a fault with AFM wiring but still didn't work wired the correct way... Plug seems to be fine.

AFM are pretty sensitive. If the wiring was wrong it may well have fried one of the resistors in it. You should be able to find the test for the afm on line somewhere. It will involve power to one pin and x resistance or voltage in the others.

[oldyella]

AFM are pretty sensitive. If the wiring was wrong it may well have fried one of the resistors in it. You should be able to find the test for the afm on line somewhere. It will involve power to one pin and x resistance or voltage in the others.

Mint pointer. Will try do some tests on it this weekend.

[meatc]

link below has a link to a couple of PDFs that you may find handy, pretty much a step by step fault finding thing.

You have to register to down load them though. They are inthe second to last post on the page.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/range-rover/76504-suspect-ecu-f-m.html

[oldyella]

Thanks for that info it will definately be helpful in getting the LR running properly.

I have managed to find a disco loom on TM for $600. Overpriced? Im not really sure what looms are worth...

[NJV6]

Pete, I think that is too dear.

Glen

[wjw]

I bet you could pick one up for $50 if you were willing to remove it from the donor

[oldyella]

I have managed to get an uncut loom for 1/4 of the TM price and have gone for it. Hopefully get it in this week and see what happens...

[oldyella]

Got the new loom in but it hasn't made any difference... Interestingly. This loom was missing plugs for the oxygen sensors and it looked like it was a factory thing I put the oxygen sensor loom from the old loom in but still no luck...

Could having no coolant in the engine fark up the coolent temp sensor or something stupid like that?