35's not big enough.

[DieselBoy]

Me thginks you need to spend some time on youtube.com looking rockcrawlers overseas.

Big tyres with a low COG.

Your buggy is almost there.

What you need to realise is that going from 35's to 37's is not much of an improvement in ground clearance.

If you lucky you will get 25mm extra under the diff at the most. That 25mm can be the difference between running 5psi and 15psi in your current tyres, or the difference in the ply rating of the side wall between your new and old tyres.

So you gain f#ck all extra clearance for a whole lot of extra unsprung weight and rotating mass (bigger flywheel effect = more driveline damage), your little 1uz will certainly notice the difference aswell.

Quite often you can get 25mm out of shaving the diff head. I know thats what Shane got out of his Patrol front axle. Hilux would be in that ball park.

You have a very different type of truck than the other guy's you were with, built for a very different purpose. You might find it will push 45 degrees before it will fall over. The others won't even be close!!!!

Might be time to put it on Tardme and build a new one??

[skid]

quick question............

does it have individual wheel brakes

can you reach them, do you use them

[pruggerdore]

you say you like the tripple block except for clearing ability, how about get rid of every second oposing block.
die grinder,tyre regrover? kick ass solder iron. or my favourite idea a big square poker and a gas torch to heat it up, lots of smoke.
you have them so wont cost anthing bar destroying good tyres if you get it wrong. take a while so some beer and mates would be a good idea.

[petefj40]

quick question............

does it have individual wheel brakes

can you reach them, do you use them

Yes, yes and yes.

From the left it goes.

Left front fiddle, right front fiddle, gear selector, rear brake fiddle/push forward for right rear, pull back for left rear. Finally high and low ratio selector closest to me.

You can see just how easy they are for the driver to take control of them.

[petefj40]

Quite often you can get 25mm out of shaving the diff head. I know thats what Shane got out of his Patrol front axle.

That's a good idea.

[petefj40]

you say you like the tripple block except for clearing ability, how about get rid of every second oposing block.
die grinder,tyre regrover? kick ass solder iron. or my favourite idea a big square poker and a gas torch to heat it up, lots of smoke.
you have them so wont cost anthing bar destroying good tyres if you get it wrong. take a while so some beer and mates would be a good idea.

Not a bad idea actually.

[skid]

quick question............

does it have individual wheel brakes

can you reach them, do you use them

Yes, yes and yes.

From the left it goes.

Left front fiddle, right front fiddle, gear selector, rear brake fiddle/push forward for right rear, pull back for left rear. Finally high and low ratio selector closest to me.

You can see just how easy they are for the driver to take control of them.

was only asking coz maybe you need to take the foot off the loud pedal and start crwling and when you feel a front wheel slip then start using the wheel brakes to transfer drive

My dirty ol fawdy had a nice tight slippery rear and open front, but with strategic use of the maori locker, it used to do really well on what you guys would call tiny 33s

its all about the driving dude, not how big a penis you have

you don't see them african negro's at the top of the 4wd world do ya

[petefj40]

quick question............

does it have individual wheel brakes

can you reach them, do you use them

Yes, yes and yes.

From the left it goes.

Left front fiddle, right front fiddle, gear selector, rear brake fiddle/push forward for right rear, pull back for left rear. Finally high and low ratio selector closest to me.

You can see just how easy they are for the driver to take control of them.

was only asking coz maybe you need to take the foot off the loud pedal and start crwling and when you feel a front wheel slip then start using the wheel brakes to transfer drive

My dirty ol fawdy had a nice tight slippery rear and open front, but with strategic use of the maori locker, it used to do really well on what you guys would call tiny 33s

its all about the driving dude, not how big a penis you have

you don't see them african negro's at the top of the 4wd world do ya

Hey hey.
Somewhere in this thread I DID say I was learning, yeah
Come on skid. Be gentle.

[QUADRACER]

pete, i have two trucks , and they could not be more different
a suzuki with lockers, and silverstones and a toyota also with lockers
and 35 inch tyres, every time i go out with the boys i think i wish i had the other truck, each has its own good points.
driving them is also completely different.
most of the advice has told you that your buggy will do some of the thing the other can do, but as i have learnt will not do everything, also it will do things better that the other trucks in different enviorments, get some advise before you rush out and
this will elimate the trail and error factor.
as most of us know we all have shed full of good ideas.

[Bulletproof]

In the photo Pete your truck looks the best one of all the trucks with a low centre of gravity which is very important.

I run 35 two lug simexes and they don't hang me up that much and are suitable for most NZ tracks.

I am not picking on you because I have never seen you drive but probably the biggest mistake that most people make who don't go places is using too low a gear for their power and through that they lose traction to the ground.

My father told me " if the tractor spins in any gear , change up and use the engine torque" and it works.

Jaffa is right in what he said and he is a good 4 wheeler and knows his stuff

Don't take this personally as this is a general observation over time

Cheers Richard

[meatc]

I sit squarely in the ground clearance isn't the be all, sure it can help but.

I run 32" simexes on Hilux axles and contiually get told I need bigger tyres to get the diffs off the ground I still win W/C events, and dont have issues getting hung up, In rotorua last year we pumped the tyres up and gained about 1 1/2 - 2" of clearance at the expense of a bit of traction due to old tracks and big ruts, won our class and had a number of best overall times.

My suggestion is more time behind the wheel, bit more air pressurse when you need the height, shave the diffs, (need to do mine cause I can) and while the diffs are being shaved chuck a locker in one or both ends (wont get into which end is best cause thats a whole other topic )

[J_Dub]

would you be saying you need bigger tyres if you couldnt afford bigger tyres?

Not having a dig at all but..

Is it possible your just a tad impatient and are thinking.. i could probably afford some 37s, then my buggy will be almost as good as Nibbs truck..

Rather than, bigger tyres being out of the question. and thinking.. Ive got this well setup buggy, flexes well, has a V8, fiddle brakes, 35s, was built to compete.. I just need to learn some more..
what would your thoughts be about your buggy if you was parked up amoungst a bunch of trucks on 33s

sometimes I think with all the extras that we can put on our trucks these days is taking away the need of skill and willingness to learn HOW TO DRIVE first..

[petefj40]

I sit squarely in the ground clearance isn't the be all, sure it can help but.

I run 32" simexes on Hilux axles and contiually get told I need bigger tyres to get the diffs off the ground I still win W/C events, and dont have issues getting hung up, In rotorua last year we pumped the tyres up and gained about 1 1/2 - 2" of clearance at the expense of a bit of traction due to old tracks and big ruts, won our class and had a number of best overall times.

My suggestion is more time behind the wheel, bit more air pressurse when you need the height, shave the diffs, (need to do mine cause I can) and while the diffs are being shaved chuck a locker in one or both ends (wont get into which end is best cause thats a whole other topic )

Well done! Much respect there.

I have a locker in the rear. I'm kicking myself I didn't take out the front locker out of the FJ40 before I sold it.
But yes. More hours behind the wheel is a defendant must..

[hosehustler]

I think....................oh wait on.......beer's first please Pete



Tah's hmmm, I was talking with Rick a few days ago and apparently the 36 inch Simex's are soon to be available here with a 2 block center pattern, heard they were on the plans a couple of year ago, but if they do eventuate they might be for you.
Just wheel it more with some *loaners*, borrow some creepys, or other brands quoted off others to try, most of us would be more than happy for you to chuck them on ya buggy and go for a skid up Worsleys. I'd offer you mine but you already have a set of 36"ET2's
Tim

P.S Protection on that steering ram ..........do it

[petefj40]

would you be saying you need bigger tyres if you couldnt afford bigger tyres?

Not having a dig at all but..

Is it possible your just a tad impatient and are thinking.. i could probably afford some 37s, then my buggy will be almost as good as Nibbs truck..

Rather than, bigger tyres being out of the question. and thinking.. Ive got this well setup buggy, flexes well, has a V8, fiddle brakes, 35s, was built to compete.. I just need to learn some more..
what would your thoughts be about your buggy if you was parked up amoungst a bunch of trucks on 33s

sometimes I think with all the extras that we can put on our trucks these days is taking away the need of skill and willingness to learn HOW TO DRIVE first..

First off.
My truck will never be like nibs. The two are so different and built to do different things.

The point of starting this thread was to hear what others thought. And I appreciate the feed back. And I can take the shit because I asked for it..

I've pointed out already. That I'm no expert behind the wheel of my truck, YET!
I was looking at more ground clearance, plain and simple, but I understand that more driving skills will reduce the need for more ground clearance. I GET THAT!

What's wrong in asking others with more experience what to do??

[rokhound]

P.S Protection on that steering ram ..........do it

While shaving the housing . But you difinitly need to get some steel around that ram.


Oh and no issues with asking advice, although I reckon you have come a long way driving the buggy, when compared to the 1st trip in it. It is a grouse little machine and as I said at the start, it is a real shame that there is not as much demand for trials etc down here as there is up Nth.

[petefj40]

P.S Protection on that steering ram ..........do it

Roger THAT!!

(tops up his G&T)

Two block 36 Simex's sound like the go Tim.
Though like someone else said. I could get the angle grinder out on the set I got.




I think I'll wait.

[petefj40]

P.S Protection on that steering ram ..........do it

While shaving the housing . But you difinitly need to get some steel around that ram.


Oh and no issues with asking advice, although I reckon you have come a long way driving the buggy, when compared to the 1st trip in it. It is a grouse little machine and as I said at the start, it is a real shame that there is not as much demand for trials etc down here as there is up Nth.

It is a shame. I guess it'll always be that way while most of NZ lives up North.
Though i like to hear any V8 on the limiter, I do understand that lots of revs and noise isn't where it's at. Low revs and lots of torque would be where it is. And of course, hours behind the wheel getting to know your truck. That will help you get a place in comps..

That short trip up the Worsley would bore lots of people on ORE I'd guess. But I learnt a lot from it. I really enjoyed it. Makes me want to go back for more.

Thanks again to those who posted to the thread (giving me shit or not). I really appreciate it..

[hosehustler]

Worsleys as easy or as hard as you want to make it, and in the dry the choices are endless (on the little sidlings that most just drive by), in the wet just another place to point your truck at the ruts and spin the wheels with ya foot flat....not very much skill req for that.
Pleased we showed you it's not a boring doddle if you don't want it to be

[Fakey]

[quote="petefj40"]

Two block 36 Simex's sound like the go Tim.
quote]

Pretty sure they only come in the triple block 36"s, 35s come in triple an twin .
Swampers would be cool

[red-devil]

Worsleys as easy or as hard as you want to make it, and in the dry the choices are endless (on the little sidlings that most just drive by), in the wet just another place to point your truck at the ruts and spin the wheels with ya foot flat....not very much skill req for that.
Pleased we showed you it's not a boring doddle if you don't want it to be

pete wot tims says is soooo true.
when i had the mityz swb i used to be up there every weekend on my own or with a few others. i loved it. and in the vx i used to take lili up there for a picnic lunch while mum was working on sundays.

so thats shows you can make it easy as for a 2 year old to hard ass.

i wish i had a trailer queen id be up there with you have fun

1: stick with wot u got and clock up more hours
2: PROTECTION, PROTECTION for the ram FAST.
3: shave the diffs
4: pick up some 2 block 36" the biggest ( id go for the buggie )

jono

[haydgq]

Two block 36 Simex's sound like the go Tim.
quote]

Pretty sure they only come in the triple block 36"s, 35s come in triple an twin .
Swampers would be cool

They were saying in the posts above that there has been talk of a twin block 36in Simex coming out so maybe if that happens they would suit this buggy

[MNC]

Two block 36 Simex's sound like the go Tim.
quote]

Pretty sure they only come in the triple block 36"s, 35s come in triple an twin .
Swampers would be cool

They were saying in the posts above that there has been talk of a twin block 36in Simex coming out so maybe if that happens they would suit this buggy

I agree with Fakey... 36" two block swampers would be ideal.

Now where could you find such tires.... Oh thats right, HERE:

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=25773

[GotFlex]

I would say go for a set of comp spec 37" Maxxis Trepadores!!
they seemed to be the go in aussie

[Fakey]

I would say go for a set of comp spec 37" Maxxis Trepadores!!
they seemed to be the go in aussie

Theyre a pretty sweet tyre but I think the bias treps are pretty heavy an probably not the best tyre for a light buggy like petes

[darinz]

I would say go for a set of comp spec 37" Maxxis Trepadores!!
they seemed to be the go in aussie

Don't take what works in Oz as an indication that they will be the same in NZ. For many years now they have not rated Simex yet we rate them as the best (along with Silverstones). You have to choose tyres that suit what you drive, where you drive and how you drive.
35x10.5 Silverstones are the same size as 35x10.5 Simex (34.8"tall) however the 35x11.5 Simex is 3/4" bigger (35.5"tall)which is why everyone uses them. The 11.5 Simex was (assuming the 36" 2 block is happening) the best compromise between hieght and traction. The 36"Simex is on 36.1" so not that much advantage of the 35x11.5.

To be blunt, if you are running Silverstones on Hilux axles and complaning about clearance then you need to learn your truck. You have about the same clearance as a Safari on 38's!

If you are having problems because you truck looks small then I say get over it as that low height is the key to having it perform. Low COG means better traction in all directions.

Listen to Meatc as he has been embarassing a lot of bigger trucks in NI winch comps for a while now and he runs the smallest tyres and the smallest motor and an electric winch. (just to blow all stereotypes away) The reason is actually really simple. He nows his truck and drives it accordingly. Yes that is n over-simplification but you get the idea.

FYI I think the other trucks in the photo look stupid compared to yours! They look like trucks that are trying to look good rather than be good. High COG is only a good thing if you are a redneck swamp racer in the US!

There has been some really good advice from people with experience further up this thread and none of it was suggesting you get bigger tyres!

[petefj40]

At the risk of sounding like I know what I'm talking about.

I think my questions have been answered. (thanks)
Some people are only repeating what's already been said.

But thanks all the same.

I declare this thread done n dusted.

Cheers,
Pete.

[hosehustler]

FYI I think the other trucks in the photo look stupid compared to yours! They look like trucks that are trying to look good rather than be good. High COG is only a good thing if you are a redneck swamp racer in the US!

Nice of you to stereo type us *thanks*, I will keep my thought's to myself.
Tim

[rokhound]

FYI I think the other trucks in the photo look stupid compared to yours! They look like trucks that are trying to look good rather than be good. High COG is only a good thing if you are a redneck swamp racer in the US!

Nice of you to stero type us *thanks*, I will keep my thought's to myself.
Tim

Yeah Good to see tossers are everywhere isn't Tim?
Darinz is obviously a winch boy (you know the ones, trucks aren't capable of driving shit so they see who can winch it the fastest) You need confirmation of that, see what the crowd do when some one drives an obsticle that everyone else has to winch through!

This site really is the Muppet show!!!!!!

[petefj40]

This site really is the Muppet show!!!!!!

But it takes all sorts to make the world go round rok?

Hey. I'm the one that should have the big yellow n black L plate on my truck. I've asked some pretty silly questions on here and I know it sets me up for flaming. But I can take it. Some would say I'm the muppet.

Stick around mate. Your input on this site is valuable to all of us.