ARB Old Man Emu leaf Springs - Opinions???

[Lynx]

depends on the pinion angle. and no track rod.

[Fakey]

I bought a second hand set of ome 2" lift springs of kimbo for my cruiser, His cruiser was the most beaten up raisined cruiser Ive ever seen an the springs were still mint, I only got rid of them cos I hate leafs
An are there leaves missing from that bent pack? looks like there are 2 or 3 missing?

[badnuz]

that is fair to say is a very NON standard application for what the OME spring was designed to do......

[Kimbo]

Thanks Fakey for the compliment. I do have to admit I am yet to see a cruiser as preloved as mine was.

[Sadam_Husain]

Here are my OME springs only 6 months used and had only done a couple of trips.

Theres some serious spring warp going on there Drurban, skinny packs like that need an anti
tramp bar to stop them warping and twisting up like that, did they come like that or have they
had leaves taken out coz the centre bolts are pretty long looking?


I've typically had heavy spring packs in my cruisers so the springs dont warp and twist up
(or flex much ) but something has to give and my 350 flatdeck cruiser ended up crushing
the spring perches as the next weak point to transfer all the twisting to






I've got new spring perches with the ends capped off to strenghten them now

[badnuz]

the CS028R (which these are) are meant to have 6 leaves....

therefore i back my original comments that these springs dont just break for no reason... there is very good reason why these failed.....

[Drurban]

the CS028R (which these are) are meant to have 6 leaves....

therefore i back my original comments that these springs dont just break for no reason... there is very good reason why these failed.....

Yes like I said I did not adjust the bump stops, plus there were the overload springs on which I took off which I was not going to need as I was not going to tow anything behind, but still I think these were the wrong sort of leaf springs for my truck comparing the OME springs to my springs that came with the truck the pack is alot bigger on the original springs and the bottom leave is very thick.

A lesson has been learn't blame is on both parties myself and the company I bought them off.

Cheers

[Swamped]

Just go EFS and be done with it

[Drurban]

Just go EFS and be done with it

Iam pretty much sorted now just need to put in my other springs and see how that goes, but that was my next choice.

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[badnuz]

im not going at anyone here, but this needs further discssion:

did you explain to the shop you bought them off that you were going to put them on a MU (CS028R are designed for Rodeo/troopers/Jackaroo, Australia never had the MU as an import like we do here, but many parts were common) and remove half the leafs (ok, they are overloads but they still support the pack under compression) run mis-aligned bump stops, extended shackels and huge tahs? probably not. therefore how are they to be liable for any blame?

I still back my orginal comment (the one that got my back up) was there was no "apparent" reason for them to break, when we have shown that there was a lot of reasons!

good luck with finding a leaf to do what you need it to do

[Drurban]

im not going at anyone here, but this needs further discssion:

did you explain to the shop you bought them off that you were going to put them on a MU (CS028R are designed for Rodeo/troopers/Jackaroo, Australia never had the MU as an import like we do here, but many parts were common) and remove half the leafs (ok, they are overloads but they still support the pack under compression) run mis-aligned bump stops, extended shackels and huge tahs? probably not. therefore how are they to be liable for any blame?

I still back my orginal comment (the one that got my back up) was there was no "apparent" reason for them to break, when we have shown that there was a lot of reasons!

good luck with finding a leaf to do what you need it to do

The guy at the shop had a book of all OME products with all the truck types and this was spring he noted, also I thought removing the half leafs would not make a difference, I did extend have extended shackels but only to try out so I did not have them in for long.

The guy at the shop said this type of spring has been put in a Mu without any problems, him saying that this would breach the consumers act of the product failing to do what it is suppose to do.

Anyway I have gone past that and moved on.

[UBZ]

also I thought removing the half leafs would not make a difference,

The guy at the shop said this type of spring has been put in a Mu without any problems, him saying that this would breach the consumers act of the product failing to do what it is suppose to do.

by modifying a product from manufacturers specification you void any cover by the comsummers guarantee act.

[badnuz]

you may have gone past it, but im going to continue to defened the product, as UBZ said, modifing them voids all consumer rights etc etc and removes also manufactuer warranty. and yes, we have fitted a few sets to Mu's but all in a "standard" form....

[Sadam_Husain]

1st trip out
Not mine but I was there when it went ping.

No apparent reason.
Cheers,

there must be some reason to cause the spring to break, you can see its been bent so there must have been some sort of impact to bend it, do you know if the shackle had inverted?


I've probably been lucky in my 25 years of hammering leafsprung trucks although I've bent a few springs I've only ever managed to break one and that was a front spring that was already bent and was loaded up onto the shackle stop and I bounced off a track and smashed hard into a drain under heavy rightfoot jandel and blew the eye out the back of the spring (it was Beer_Tara's fault ), other than that all my leafsprings have taken years of punishment without any failures, the place my spring had bent is pretty much the same as the pic above the only difference is the break point where mine unloaded

[mudlva]

im guessing here that there were no anti inversion plates welded to the shackle plates which allow the weight of the unloaded wheel to be pushed back folding the spring at the pin and then snapping once the vecihle weight comes back on

[DieselBoy]

Here are my OME springs only 6 months used and had only done a couple of trips.

Are they lifted springs? looks like some awesome axle warp going on.

This thread is a goody!!!


If your going to play with modifying spring packs, you need to understand what your doing. You need to have a grasp on the forces involved and how to compensate for the loss in strength of the spring pack when you have removed leaves.

If you soften up a pack by removing leaves you have to compensate for the reduced strength of the pack, so you need to fit a anti-wrap bar.


Anyway, I have OME's in my Suzuki, it gets driven reasonably hard, not thrashed, but put in some pretty testing situations and the OME leaves have performed way better than I expected.

They ride nice, flex well and I have left the packs 100% as Mr OME intended. The nylon anti-friction pads between the main leaves are one of features I really like.

I would highly recommend them as being pretty much the best aftermarket leaf spring available for NZ conditions.

The Ozzies don't like them only because they drive big fat rigs loaded with fridges and swags and pallets of beer over 1000's of k's of corrugations and wonder why the springs have flogged out in only 50,000k's.

Thing is you can't have a nice supple long travel spring, coil or leaf, and not expect it to sag after lots of hard work!!!!!!

[DieselBoy]

Doe anyone have any links for DBs videos??

Cheers
Als

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http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... &start=105

Not sure if the OME stuff was fitted here?

EDIT: vid doesnt work anymore....

Vid works now, but I think the Maxi Crap springs were in on that vid by the look of eye on the front spring.

So lets say that the OME springs are way better than that again, and haven't sagged like those Maxi Crap ones did after a few months.

The Maxi Trak springs are now in the front of The50 they have sagged so much.