engin swap. prado. crack head 2 lt

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:36 pm

ok this is where im up to. the head on my prado is cracked (was a 2-lt so was expected but not yet!!!) i am not sure what to do wether to fix it (costs 2500) or do a transplant into it... may be a 3B

or 5m- supra??

or what else would you guys recommend or would i be beter to fix the current motor. hw mch does it cost to do an engin swap?

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:29 pm

you doing it yourself or paying someone else? Makes a big difference price wise to both of your options. I'd imagine that overall it would be cheaper to fix what you've already got. Cause with an engine swap theres always hidden extras that you don't budget for plus certification at the end. So unless you want to put a nice big V8 into it :shock:

i wouldn't bother with a swap. Just my opinion though :wink:

Insky · Post by **Insky** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:38 pm

go for the 1kz 3litre deisel found in mid 90's surfs and landcruisers

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:31 pm

i dont have enough knowlede to do an engin swap so i would e paying someone to. unless some one on here wants some cash. :lol:

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:51 pm

see pm...

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:59 pm

have a look at this too:

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/modules ... ght=#16762

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:03 pm

that would be nice but havnt got the skill to do that but if anyone wants to do the work i will supply the refreshments and pizza lol

Sadam_Husain · Post by **Sadam_Husain** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:34 pm

Cost me around $5k to do my V8 transplant
... engine, adaptor, clutch plate, pressure plate, modified carrier and bearing, gasket set, re-cored radiator, power steer pump, hydrolic guy to hook it up, transporter to exhaust guys, headers, exhaust system, holley rebuild, new HEI, oil, antifreeze, hoses, misc paint bolts wire ties belts etc, certification.... sure there was lots of other stuff that cost money as well?

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:22 pm

have decided just to fix it. anyone know a good but cheap mechanic in christchurch

rokhound · Post by **rokhound** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:01 pm

You can't get "Good" and "Cheap" in the same sentance man

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:03 pm

ok how about a compromise. somone that wont rip me off, but does a decent job

rokhound · Post by **rokhound** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:07 pm

C'mon ChCh guys, someone must know someone who can help this man out.

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:20 pm

Where abouts in Ch Ch are you? Could have a look if you are keen, would look at doing strip/assemble and take head to specialist (i use Cylinder head specialists) got my 3B head planed, valve seats etc all fitted up ready to install (including a replacement valve) for about $220.

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:21 pm

division st. riccarton

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:23 pm

if it is a cracked head wouldnt it have to be replaced?

rokhound · Post by **rokhound** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:27 pm

Don't go past checking out the new price of a bare head from the Toyota agent. Sometimes they surprise you.

But I think your best option is to look for a 2lte motor complete from a wreck, repower or simalar.

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:32 pm

Genuine Toyota was $400 cheaper than repco for my 1kz

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:13 pm

Can get a new head for 2LT from toyota about $1000.00 incl gst

SMOKEY · Post by **SMOKEY** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:35 pm

kANEY, Before reading any more go pour your self a stiff drink and if you dont drink then start now.
I did my 2LTE two years ago and these are trade prices.
HEAD SUB-ASSY $850.00
GASKET KIT ENGINE $88.00
GSKT CYL HEAD $83.23
BELT $42.50
GASKET TIMING BELT $40.48
PUMP ASSY WATER $96.00
THERMOSTAT $23.15
GASKET $3.93
SEAL TIMING GEAR $18.99
IDLER SUB-ASSY $42.50

CYLINDER HEAD SPECIALISTS :
STRIP , DECARB, FACE VALVES, ASSEMBLE, SET SHIM TAPPETS. $168.75
CHCH RADIATORS:
CLEAN OUT SURF RADIATOR. $95.63

Don't cut corners or it will turn around and bit you on the arse
GET DIRTY, FITZY.

mudchuka · Post by **mudchuka** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:13 pm

thats a perfect exuse for a 1uz-fe ,auto and a 100mm lift kit and maybe some 35inch tyres.

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:17 am

all ready got 100mm lift. but by the looks fixing this motor is still going to be cheaper than replacing with something else....im a student so arnt made of money lol :lol:

Goose · Post by **Goose** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:26 pm

Dont know if this will help, but...

I've got a seized 2L (non turbo). I'm told the 2L and 2LT are identical except for the turbo. (Feel free to correct)

The head may be ok, but I wouldnt know. If the engine is "seized", is it likely it's buggered the head? As far as I know, it was running (owner was out driving) and it just locked up tight, no warning.

If someone can shed any light on the subject, I'd be willing to let the head go cheap.....

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:49 pm

don't think they are the same... similar, but some differences in the manifold bolts etc...

I think if you are a student you want to be looking for a good second hand motor... but its still going to cost you $1k or thereabouts minimum.

Engine swap is going to cost you $3.5k minimum depending what you choose (based on having to pay someone else to do it) For a 1JZ/2JZ option

Theres no simple solution, sorry... but really, if coin is an issue then you're going to need a job, and a second hand engine...

Steve

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:32 pm

its cool i have decided to get it fixed properly. have rang round and have got a few quotes, ranging between 2200 and 2500. so are just goin to do it that way then i knw its right. rather than getting a second hand engin that may do the same thing next week.

one of the mechanics was saying that he would be puting a 3L head on instead of a 2l-t, he said it is ment to be stronger, is this true or is he just adding more to the cost?

Mattman · Post by **Mattman** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:23 am

Don't discount the engine swap idea.

Your old motor will be worth some money, ancillaries etc.

Your 2.5k top end rebuild will still leave you with a 2lt motor. If you were to get $500 for your bits and pieces, turbo, ancillaries etc, you would nearly have the money for a 6 cyl repower.

Matt.

pradoman · Post by **pradoman** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:38 am

Is the prado a manual or auto because you could put a 3L=2.8 or a 5L=3.0 non turbo that would last a lot longer than any 2lte time bomb will

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:55 am

Yeah, I'd be very reluctant to spend $2500 on a 2LT motor... 'cos at the end all you have is an underpowered hand grenade (and thats from someone who LIKES Toyotas

)

Check your other options befoire shelling that cash out...

Steve

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:05 am

its an auto, anyone know how much a 2l or 5l motor costs? and if i would need a new gearbox if i did do the swap.

1UZFJ40 · Post by **1UZFJ40** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:11 pm

I take it that you aren't interested in my 3b and box etc then. you were asking about it on trademe.

just spent the weekend swapping it out for a 1pz, nothing is ever as simple as it sounds. depending on the rest of the truck i would think about putting the rego on hold , buying a five hundy shitter to get round in for the mean time.
and waiting to see if something turns up in the buy sell or on trademe. never know when some one will roll over and sell the wreck cheap.
i got the 1pz in a truck that was a write off, double diff locks, 50 mm old man emu springs , good late model manual box , pto drive......... and all less than the engine would have cost from the wreckers.
glen

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:25 pm

na i have decided to get it fixed. it would have ended up more than i could afford (Student) to do a repower.