V6 Commie and auto to hilux transfer box

[Kimbo]

I am toying with the idea of putting a V6 Comie and auto to Hilux transfer box to run in my buggy. V6s and autos are cheap and easy to find. Any one have a adaptor kit they wish to sell or could point me in the right direction.

[madtoolbox]

What auto are you planning on using? I am making an adaptor plate at the moment to replace the mk1 version in current use.
If its a late model auto, ie, electronic, then you need to think about the speed sensor. I have just pulled my vr auto and fitted a vn, simple cable operated with no need for any wiring. My vr box can sit in the corner until I have a chin wag with someone who has set one up without the speed sensor. I have been told you can wire them to run manually through the inhibitor switch, but I want to speak to someone with actual experence before I bother with it.

[Kimbo]

I was planing on a motor and box from a VR,VS,VP and as its in a buggy I dont need to worry about the speedo. Do you know who the agent for Marks Adaptors are?

[Dace]

I was planing on a motor and box from a VR,VS,VP and as its in a buggy I dont need to worry about the speedo. Do you know who the agent for Marks Adaptors are?

I bought mine direct from here

http://www.advanceadapters.com/

they supply the Marks ones and was a lot cheaper than Marks, either local or x oz

[madtoolbox]

Just make one, or get your local engineer to do it. 12mm plate to bolt onto t/c, 12mm plate to bolt onto auto, machine a tube to locate the two, overall length of mine was 200mm. Cut a piece of spline off commie driveshaft and press into a piece of tube, do the same with the splined collar from your old box and weld, cut auto output shaft length to suit. You can phase your assembly to give front drive shaft/auto sump clearance before you drill the holes at the auto end of the adaptor. As I said, the biggest problem is eletronics, I want mine to get dirty, not dusty in the shed, so I used the early auto till I get time to sort that.

[safaripete]

why does it have to be the hilux transfer??


the iszuzu bighorn transfer is easier

im in the process of doing this swap into my zuki

[rokhound]

I could be wrong here, but I am pretty sure you will need to set the VSS up on these autos so they don'r default to "limp mode". Not sure if this is an issue if you are not using the factory brain though......

[pruggerdore]

why does it have to be the hilux transfer??


the iszuzu bighorn transfer is easier

im in the process of doing this swap into my zuki

as your currently doing this just thought would let you know of two issues you may want to address
as you know putting it together is easy but makes for a very long setup and in a zuk? we looked at putting one in a zuk and the rear drive shaft was going to be like 300mm long!
dont know how far along you are but can measure length for you if you like. have it in my lux.
the other big one is the front drive shaft hitting the back right hand corner of the trans sump. and no you cant just scallop out sump there. important bits under that spot. my soloution that worked for me was to rotate transfer to drop that side down but it wasnt enough so made a custom drive shaft out of a mu shaft particular year that is only 32sh mm thick. still not really enough as i have crazy flex in the front. your particular set up may work out better.

[pruggerdore]

ok the recipe you want the engine vn series 2 onward up to vr. vp is the best easiest. series 2 is a slightly better and more power than series one. vr onwards get more difficult with electronics. by using the wireing loom and comp from an earlier vn/vp you can run the vr engine. otherwise you need to trick the ecu to get past the security codeing for the key. another option there is use vr engine and loom and buy of trademe were there for $70 a replacement comp that has had the security codes removed.
the vs ecotec engine onwards have slightly more power but are harder to sort the electronics on. tho there are soloutions to all of them, mainly by giving clever people like mark adapters and the like several fistfull of dollars. plenty of people have done the later engines but to the budget of most of us its easier and cheaper to use the earlier engines.
for the trans its fair to say the later model electronic controlled trans's probably behaves nicer than the earlier cable operated "brainless" trans, however it again comes back to whats cheapest easiest and works.
the earlier vn /vp/ trans bolts staight on and works with nothing plugged into it. to use the later trans you need to get the comp/ speed sensor/ and car speedo talking to each other. dont know much about that but think just using the earlier trans is the answer . to use the vr comp and earlier trans the comp still needs a signal from the trans for the speed sensor. removing the speed sensor from the trans and leaving it plugged into comp works. Comp just senses its there and is happy.
what I did...
Im running the vr engine with its original computer and loom. It has a piggy back module I picked up allready setup that feeds the comp the signal from the key . it has the speed sensor removed from the vr trans still connected to the comp to keep it happy. using cable only trans from vn.
all works fine. If was doing it again and hadnt come across the module to give the key signal. I would use any series 2 engine and loom and and buy the apropriate comp of trade me with the security crap removed. and again the earlier model brainless trans. would look at using something besides bighorn transfer case.
chances are the next one I do for myself will be the supercharged 3.8 v6 with its own trans. just fork out for the necesary bits to make it work

disclaimer... all this info is how i believe it to be but some may be slightly incorrect and should be clarified by other sources before relying upon

[Mudhog]

Kim,

Just get a Landrover!!

[Kimbo]

A Lanrover Dont want the oil leaks on the floor

[guestynz]

hi do u guys know the ratio in low range in the bighorn transfer hilux is 2.2 so is it lower if so how much by for to use it cheers

[Dr_PC]

Just make one, or get your local engineer to do it. 12mm plate to bolt onto t/c, 12mm plate to bolt onto auto, machine a tube to locate the two, overall length of mine was 200mm. Cut a piece of spline off commie driveshaft and press into a piece of tube, do the same with the splined collar from your old box and weld, cut auto output shaft length to suit. You can phase your assembly to give front drive shaft/auto sump clearance before you drill the holes at the auto end of the adaptor. As I said, the biggest problem is eletronics, I want mine to get dirty, not dusty in the shed, so I used the early auto till I get time to sort that.

Just like this
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... 18&t=11924

[safaripete]

hi do u guys know the ratio in low range in the bighorn transfer hilux is 2.2 so is it lower if so how much by for to use it cheers

2.283:1

[guestynz]

so big horn 2.283 as well?