Kill Switch?

Bigted1800 · Post by **Bigted1800** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:56 pm

I dont know if I am in the right place here, but I really want to install a couple of kill switches into my Mitsubishi Challenger (1999, Diesel) I am hoping sombody who is familiar with the model could suggest the best wires to splice into, and where the best place would be to access them.
I am doing reasearch online at the moment but I am having trouble finding anything really specific.
I lost my much loved Nissan Terrano a few weeks ago, it was stolen and burnt out, and I plan to never let anyone do that to me again.
I have a 4 step plan to secure it, it was a 6 step plan but I was convinced that 2 of my steps could lead to jail time if they were accidentally triggered during a WOF or something, or if I actually did manage to kill a would be car thief.
It came with a basic alarm, so that is step one already covered.
Second I need to put in a couple of kill switches.
Third, I want to install a manual lock to keep it locked in gear (After talking to several neighbors who did NOT hear my diesel start up that night when then normally do leads me to believe my Terrano was initially towed before hotwiring)
Fourth, I want to upgrade the alarm to top specs, tracker, cell connection etc.
Thanks guys,
Ted.

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:12 pm

at the moment kill switches do'nt do a lot as the vehicles are towed away

Am investigating a bulk deal on these at the moment :wink:

http://vehiclesecurity.co.nz/GPS-tracking.php

theres some interesting info on his site here
http://vehiclesecurity.co.nz/yourguide.php

consider a bonnet lock as well, theives apparantly go straight for the siren and rip it out first

Bigted1800 · Post by **Bigted1800** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:54 pm

Bonnet lock..... Good idea....... I know I have a trip switch on the bonnet, but I dont like where it is mounted, I figured out what it was and traced the wiring back to the siren within a few seconds of opening my bonnet, (with no prior knowledge of security systems) so I felt it was a bit amatuer. I might look at getting a physical lock onto it.

What do you think of this idea, ran across it on trademe:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =417079132

Cheers.
Ted.

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:01 pm

slip the transfer case into neutral and away you roll ?

Mudde1 · Post by **Mudde1** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:46 pm

I have seen a vehicle that had a plate that folded up over the pedals and was locked by a substantial padlock, when unlocked it folded flat on the floor. made it very hard for any one to drive and even towing was a problem to thieves.

Bigted1800 · Post by **Bigted1800** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:45 pm

Mudde1 wrote:I have seen a vehicle that had a plate that folded up over the pedals and was locked by a substantial padlock, when unlocked it folded flat on the floor. made it very hard for any one to drive and even towing was a problem to thieves.

Ha! I like it. I think I will investigate that idea.

What about methods to prevent hooking up a tow strop?
It probably wouldnt be too hard to create a heavy duty hook strength that could be put on only if needed or when offroading.

I have a rather pleasant image in my head of a decoy tow hook set up to shear off and shatter some dirtbags rear windscreen........

Cheers.
Ted.

Bigted1800 · Post by **Bigted1800** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:46 pm

Jerry wrote:slip the transfer case into neutral and away you roll ?

rangimotors · Post by **rangimotors** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:58 pm

i reckon putting a padlock or similar through your handbrake lever is the go kills to birds with one stone.

curious_george · Post by **curious_george** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:02 pm

rangimotors wrote:i reckon putting a padlock or similar through your handbrake lever is the go kills to birds with one stone.

That's not a bad idea at all - even the traditional dash-board style 'turn-and-push' would be fairly easy with a sleeve the length of the shaft that could be locked around it once engaged.

Still, easy enough to climb underneath and cut the handbrake cable.

Slideways · Post by **Slideways** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:30 pm

rangimotors wrote:i reckon putting a padlock or similar through your handbrake lever is the go kills to birds with one stone.

Unfortunately that's easy, they'd just cut the cable.

zukmeista · Post by **zukmeista** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:03 pm

I don't really think it matters what you do, the theives will find a way around it :evil:

SP450andLE · Post by **SP450andLE** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:16 pm

Set up a way of locking your wheels to your driveway? i.e. have a big screw in 'eye' on one side of the driveway, and slip some chain through the wheel, and back to the eye, and padlock it?

Or a pole set in the ground next to the driveway could work - or even a fencepost?

May be easier than stuffing round with fiddly locking things inside the vehicle?

Lynx · Post by **Lynx** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:17 pm

SP450andLE wrote:Set up a way of locking your wheels to your driveway? i.e. have a big screw in 'eye' on one side of the driveway, and slip some chain through the wheel, and back to the eye, and padlock it?

Or a pole set in the ground next to the driveway could work - or even a fencepost?

May be easier than stuffing round with fiddly locking things inside the vehicle?

Untill you need to move it in a hurry or emergency, or just plain forget about it.

curious_george · Post by **curious_george** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:16 pm

Lynx wrote:
SP450andLE wrote:Set up a way of locking your wheels to your driveway? i.e. have a big screw in 'eye' on one side of the driveway, and slip some chain through the wheel, and back to the eye, and padlock it?

Or a pole set in the ground next to the driveway could work - or even a fencepost?

May be easier than stuffing round with fiddly locking things inside the vehicle?

Untill you need to move it in a hurry or emergency, or just plain forget about it.

I know of a joker who did this with a disc-brake lock on a motor bike. Completly forgot about it, right up until the front wheel completed one revolution...

SP450andLE · Post by **SP450andLE** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:20 pm

But if you're in a hurry, you won't want to have to unlock handbrake locks, pedal box locks etc etc either...

rangimotors · Post by **rangimotors** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:29 pm

Yea gotta agree that if someone wants it they will take it no matter what ya do. All you can do is limit the places it gets left alone without you and try to add as much protection as possible.

lincooln · Post by **lincooln** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:17 pm

worse part with chains is that bolt cutters go through it easy. And if its parked on hard ground they can still go jack it away even if the wheels are locked up.

My old boss who has a ford ute has a kill switch in it and whenever he parks it he kills it and removes the key, funny too as the switch is hidden very well

Lynx · Post by **Lynx** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:19 pm

lincooln · Post by **lincooln** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:23 pm

Lynx wrote:
lincooln wrote: was

Good point

Changed it now. Not that it makes a difference I guess

SamLogan · Post by **SamLogan** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:39 pm

get a good 5 star alarm with as many immobilisers as possible and get a good installer to make sure they are hard to find. Then screw the siren down with the one way screws you can get for number plates and make a cover for it so thieves can't smash it with a hammer. Make sure the siren has a back up battery and get a gps tracker. That might stop them. Thats the path i will be taking

Sam

Twodiffs · Post by **Twodiffs** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:07 am

Jerry wrote:at the moment kill switches do'nt do a lot as the vehicles are towed away

Am investigating a bulk deal on these at the moment
http://vehiclesecurity.co.nz/GPS-tracking.php

theres some interesting info on his site here
http://vehiclesecurity.co.nz/yourguide.php

consider a bonnet lock as well, theives apparantly go straight for the siren and rip it out first

Are you doing the homework via this thread Jerry?

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... 89#p307889

darinz · Post by **darinz** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:09 pm

The one thing you can do is have good insurance. After all if the bastards want it they will get it.

With my race truck that was basically uninsurable for the replacement value I followed a few simple rules.

Never leave it far from where I was.

I made it easy to get in to so they didn't damage it.

Made it really hard to start. I didn't both with any normal security but had seperate kill switches. I made the fuel kill switch easy to find so they thought it would then start. BUT I also had an ignition (not diesel) kill switch that you would not find unless you knew where to look. The good thing about this is they could turn it over and there would be fuel but it wouldn't go. Funny how people will come and help someone who is having problems start a vehicle but will ignore a car alarm!!!

So my advice is unless it is a modified vehicle don't waste your time too much and make sure you have good insurance.
A rule of thumb for GOOD insurnce is if they advertise on TV all the time then stay away!!!!!!!!

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