Awesome articulation from series rover

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:49 pm

http://au.msnusers.com/wildfingsphotos/shoebox.msnw

I bet you cant tell me what axles its running are :lol:

Post by **mike** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:57 pm

I really like this pic. He stole my paint job :evil:

For that I'll try to steal his articulation just need to figure out how first :scratch:

http://au.msnusers.com/wildfingsphotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4

Mike

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:57 pm

They look vaguely familiar... Volvo portals out of one of those silly little swedish military offroad box-things?

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:58 pm

SupraLux wrote:They look vaguely familiar... Volvo portals out of one of those silly little swedish military offroad box-things?

Nope

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:00 pm

Or are they the new bolt-on portals on Nissan axles?

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:01 pm

SupraLux wrote:Or are they the new bolt-on portals on Nissan axles?

Nope

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:02 pm

Then I'm giving up and going home :lol:

...let someone else figure it out...

or are they narrowed Mog axles?

oh wait... I'll just save you the post and say "nope

"

Steve

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:03 pm

SupraLux wrote:Then I'm giving up and going home

...let someone else figure it out...

or are they narrowed Mog axles?

oh wait... I'll just save you the post and say "nope "

Steve

Ill say nope anyway :roll:

coxsy · Post by **coxsy** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:36 pm

did a crop and lighten, has portals , shocks, but couldn't see springs under there,

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:38 pm

heres the embarrasing part that I dont want to talk about, it has leaves on the back :oops:

. You wanna convert yours back to leaves mike? :lol:

And I bet someone a steak and cheese pie that they cant figure out what type of portals they are :wink:

DaveM · Post by **DaveM** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:44 pm

I'd say the owner made the portals himself.....

Insky · Post by **Insky** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:45 pm

those leafs in the back are so thin 1 layer thats y she flexs so well

Petemcc · Post by **Petemcc** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:58 pm

could have got some more professional models lol

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:00 pm

yeah! go the leaves! as long as theyre set up right, they'll be good performers..

as for the artic, jebus! :shock:

impressive to say the least..

hmmm, now to get the 40 flexin like that..

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:07 pm

Well, they look like rangie diffs, and still 5 stud, so maybe Maxidrive bolt on portals??

Mmmmm pie.....

Ben

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:03 pm

any other guesses before I reveal my answer (and eat teh pie myself)

lilpigzuk · Post by **lilpigzuk** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:05 pm

if I could throw in my two cents worth to reply to those who question the strength of Volvos. Generally the weakest link on most built 4x4's on conventional axles is the CV joint. The CV's on Toyota 45"s ,Hilux's, GQ Nissans, early Rangeys and 110 Landys are all identical in size.Eg. You can remove the balls and spiders from a range rover cv and fit it into a toyota one. only the heat treatment and the splines vary from one brand of vehicle to another. The volvo front axle has identical size cv's to all these vehicles but because of hub reduction there is only half the stress.
Before I converted my Landrover to portals I used to run Salisbury (read Dana 60 ) axles front and back, but I built the front end to take LandRover swivel housings and Toyota CV joints. After shattering several cv's I concluded that unless I could find and adapt much larger ones the front diff was overkill and only ate up valuable ground clearance. I could not afford Volvo axles at that time ( still can't ) so I built my own portal hubs for Range rover diffs , also fitted with Toyota cv's and I have not had a problem since. So what I am getting at is that it does not matter how big and strong you may think your Nissan or Toyota etc diffs are , You are still limited by the strength of the CV's. Yes i know about Marfields and Long fields, but you can put them on Volvos too and they will still be effectively more than twice as strong as a Toyota or Nissan with similar equipment. Given enough engine, enough tire and too much right foot you can break anything, with the possible exception of Mogs, but I have heard of them blowing the portal boxes because they use helical gears instead of straight cuts. This surprises me a little because a 404 Mog with all the optional crawler gears is reputadely capable of reliably towing something like 900 tons when used as a railway locomotive.

Bill aka daddylonglegs from outerlimits has built some pretty trick landys in the past

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:09 pm

damn you and your web wheeling rex :evil:

Rover axles and home made portals are pretty cool aye :roll:

lilpigzuk · Post by **lilpigzuk** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:10 pm

turoa wrote:any other guesses before I reveal my answer (and eat teh pie myself)

I like mince and cheese

Ben sort of guessed it though.......

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:11 pm

Right. I'm here to collect my pie... but it looks like Rex beat me to it.

Home made, built by Bill Van Snorkle, aka Daddylonglegs, aka Portalrover

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?s=eb7 ... =6428&st=0

Ben

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:15 pm

I guess I owe a couple of people pies then aye :wink:

Ill buy them for you when I'm up that way (next year sometime)

Or I can buy them now, and send them to you in the post? I think I owe matt4u a bit of my pizza aswell

lilpigzuk · Post by **lilpigzuk** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:20 pm

Would have to be one of the coolest Landys around.....
It also ran an idea of Bills "forced articulation" Was featured in a 4wd monthly a couple of years back. Quite a cool idea. Basically "forced" the front axle to flex like the back axle (in a crossaxled situation) therefore the body would only tilt half of axle angle.....

hard to explain.

Rangielux · Post by **Rangielux** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:55 pm

I apologise for the quick interuption

, but you landie/rangie guys(thinking of Mike, furgus etc etc) could be interested in a rangie on TM in Hams (search and ye shall find - too easy to post link :wink:

). Its on my watch list but I probably wont buy, but its got a bit of good fruit that could be robbed if you break it down

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:55 pm

Yea i spose its pretty good turoa...for a rover of course :roll:

............hahahahaha :lol:

go suzuki

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:59 pm

lilpigzuk wrote:Would have to be one of the coolest Landys around.....
It also ran an idea of Bills "forced articulation" Was featured in a 4wd monthly a couple of years back. Quite a cool idea. Basically "forced" the front axle to flex like the back axle (in a crossaxled situation) therefore the body would only tilt half of axle angle..... hard to explain.

It was basically a shaft connected to the rear housing that came halfway up the truck and had a gear on it. The front axle had the same sort of shaft attached that ran back down to the same place with another gear on it. The two gears intermesh so that when one shaft twists with the axle it turns the opposing gear, forcing the other axle to be twisted in the opposite way.

I think he used a modified transfer case to do the 'gear' bit in the middle.

Damn, homebuilts huh?.. Like the ones I've been building in my head for the last year or so to bolt onto Toy axles

Steve

DaveM · Post by **DaveM** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:09 pm

DaveM wrote:I'd say the owner made the portals himself.....

Can I have a pie too :?:

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:34 pm

DaveM wrote:
DaveM wrote:I'd say the owner made the portals himself.....

Can I have a pie too

Yea, I suppose, when are you up here next?

DaveM · Post by **DaveM** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:36 pm

turoa wrote:
Yea, I suppose, when are you up here next?

Hmmmm, might be cold by the time I get up there :roll:

SMOKEY · Post by **SMOKEY** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:26 am

Are you lot to young to remember VW COMBI's ? They have a nice Portal set up that was adapted to Toyota axles by a mate of mine and used successfully in his trails vehicle. That should give you a few sleepless nights Steve :roll:

Can't Sleep, FITZY.

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:09 am

I just read that link DAMM! Holy hell I did the math 8 transfercases to get enough gears to make the portals.... I like it but there has to be a less gear intensive option.... oh and the upside down diffs makes me cringe hows he getting oil to the pinion bearing ??
VW Combi

Are you talking about the "bus" becouse I'm pretty certain the normal combi didn't have portals my ole man used to cut them up to make lambing hacks... shorten them put a pen in the middle and new cab a set of spud lugs and away ya go :lol:

makes offroad a whole new experiance when your seated infront of the front axle :shock:

Need more details please

Cheers Reece

Awesome articulation from series rover

Awesome articulation from series rover

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