1kz swap for a 2.4

samewan · Post by **samewan** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:13 am

has any one done the above swap? I know its a hell of alot easyr to put the mechanical pump on the engine and then swap it in but are the engine mounts the same ect?

cheers sam

madlux · Post by **madlux** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:18 am

nope engine mounts need to be moved about 40-50mm forward

samewan · Post by **samewan** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:20 am

sweet as can i keep my 2.4 gear box or do i need to get a 1kz model one ?

madlux · Post by **madlux** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:01 am

Pretty sure you can get the 1kz bellhousing and mount that to your gearbox, but may require a bit of dilling etc to mount up.

klompy · Post by **klompy** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:29 pm

You will need a kz box to much grunt for older models.

samewan · Post by **samewan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:42 am

ok so been talking to a guy that has done a couple kz swaps before and he said that they just bolt up and its a straight frword swap and basicly i dont know who to believe lol

madlux · Post by **madlux** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:50 am

It should bolt up but like klompy has said, it wont last long, the 1kz r151f im pretty sure it is, is a nice box thats what i use.

samewan · Post by **samewan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:10 am

ok he also said the engine mounts dont need to change etha

SamLogan · Post by **SamLogan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:13 am

i have a 1kz auto + bellhousing if you want to buy it.

Sam

samewan · Post by **samewan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:33 am

got to get a 1kz first lol

samewan · Post by **samewan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:44 am

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 704443.htm been offerd that 1kz and its in mint condition 280 fly wheel to fan

rob-mu · Post by **rob-mu** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:06 am

How much?

samewan · Post by **samewan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:48 am

2800 but the engine its self is in very very good condition

tweake · Post by **tweake** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:50 am

samewan wrote:ok so been talking to a guy that has done a couple kz swaps before and he said that they just bolt up and its a straight frword swap and basicly i dont know who to believe lol

just make sure when your talking to him that you talking about the 1kz not the 5L. the 5L is also a 3 litre and its a direct bolt up.
and also don't get 3 litre and 3L (2.8 ) mixed up.

samewan · Post by **samewan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:51 am

yeah he said it deffently a 1kz do the 3l comes stock turbo?

rob-mu · Post by **rob-mu** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:54 am

Sounds good Gary is good to deal with

tweake · Post by **tweake** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:20 am

samewan wrote:yeah he said it deffently a 1kz do the 3l comes stock turbo?

neither the 3l or 5l are turbo. but 2lt turbo is an easy bolt on. theres a few on here with turbo'ed 5l.

BeamedSurf · Post by **BeamedSurf** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:02 am

na the 3L's (2.8's) dont come out factory turbo, and 2800 for a 1kz is bloody good in my opinion

tallsam66 · Post by **tallsam66** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:10 am

The engine is a good runner ...ive heard it running ...he is a good guy to deal with too.

jj1959 · Post by **jj1959** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:18 am

I've done the 1kz - 2lt (2.4 L turbo) swap in a Bundera. You need a bell housing to match the 1kz to the gearbox. Just cruisers wanted $250 for one. I managed to get one for $65. The engine mounts need to move back roughly 60mm & drop about 40mm. All easily do able. You will pay between $1500- $2500 + gst for an engine. Depending on what the engine comes out of, you may also need to get a sump, dump pipe & probably power steering hoses. I got rid of all the electronic & emission control shite off of the 1kz and fitted a 2lt pump re-specced by DSL. I also used all the temp & pressure senders off my old 2lt so that they matched all my wiring & gauges. Glow plug wiring took a little thought, but got there in the end. Also alternator is internally regulated not external like the 2lt. Vacuum pump is motor mounted under the fuel pump, not on the alternator like the 2lt, so you have to run some pipes and hoses. Easier than doing a Commodore V6 conversion. all up cost if you do it your self is between $3000 & $4000 dollars.

samewan · Post by **samewan** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:09 pm

jj1959 wrote:I've done the 1kz - 2lt (2.4 L turbo) swap in a Bundera. You need a bell housing to match the 1kz to the gearbox. Just cruisers wanted $250 for one. I managed to get one for $65. The engine mounts need to move back roughly 60mm & drop about 40mm. All easily do able. You will pay between $1500- $2500 + gst for an engine. Depending on what the engine comes out of, you may also need to get a sump, dump pipe & probably power steering hoses. I got rid of all the electronic & emission control shite off of the 1kz and fitted a 2lt pump re-specced by DSL. I also used all the temp & pressure senders off my old 2lt so that they matched all my wiring & gauges. Glow plug wiring took a little thought, but got there in the end. Also alternator is internally regulated not external like the 2lt. Vacuum pump is motor mounted under the fuel pump, not on the alternator like the 2lt, so you have to run some pipes and hoses. Easier than doing a Commodore V6 conversion. all up cost if you do it your self is between $3000 & $4000 dollars.

the biggest help so far thank you for a straight answer

jj1959 · Post by **jj1959** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:24 am

Also there is no such thing as a 1kz gearbox. There are R, G & W series boxes. R is probably the strongest & the 1kz bellhousings definitely connect to them.What are you put the 1kz into?

samewan · Post by **samewan** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:14 am

a 1992 1n130 2door (wich dont come out in a 1kz)

jj1959 · Post by **jj1959** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:32 am

That will be easy then because that should have an R150 box in it or an a340 auto. Both take the 1kz easy. You may even be able to fit the ecu from the 1kz because aren't they EFI? They did come out later with a 1kz in them. The KZJ130.

samewan · Post by **samewan** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:51 am

i think my model was the last 2 door model?

tweake · Post by **tweake** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:42 am

last year they made them i think.

gearbox should be a R151f (assuming its manual) and stock diffs are 4.3 so they rev like crazy at 100km/h. like you need an excuse to fit big tires

samewan · Post by **samewan** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:47 am

na auto and diffs were 4.8s changed to 4.1s and running 33s now

jj1959 · Post by **jj1959** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:09 am

Put the 4.8 back in. It will be no good off road with 4.1s. Unless it is only a show pony

samewan · Post by **samewan** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:41 am

both 4.8s were fucked and kzn130s are standerd 4.1s arnt they?

jj1959 · Post by **jj1959** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:12 am

Yea but that's with 28 in biscuit tins. Even on 33s it will be crap off road with 4.1s

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