another terrano/safari project = terrari

[passengerpete]

i finily got around to installing the rear drive shaft. the mid crossmember maybe an obstruction ? will just have to flex it up and see i guess.

[passengerpete]

bit more grinding

[hosehustler]

Been enjoying the read so far Pete, but it's getting interesting now
Keep up the pics and hard work, it should be ready for Sheffield

[tomsoffroad]

bit more grinding

Good fun that grinding bit aye?
Awesome progress dude.

I think your rear driveshaft and x member shouldn't be too much of an issue, if it is, it would be pretty simple to scollop (spelling ) it too suit.

[passengerpete]

Been enjoying the read so far Pete, but it's getting interesting now
Keep up the pics and hard work, it should be ready for Sheffield

this is mostly your fault Tim it took me weeks to pry the grin off my face after the ride you took me on.

[passengerpete]

bit more grinding

Good fun that grinding bit aye?
Awesome progress dude.

I think your rear driveshaft and x member shouldn't be too much of an issue, if it is, it would be pretty simple to scollop (spelling ) it too suit.

well i can safely say i completely underestimated the amount of work involved in cutting out the ifs its taking hours.

[kbjj]

Been enjoying the read so far Pete, but it's getting interesting now
Keep up the pics and hard work, it should be ready for Sheffield

this is mostly your fault Tim it took me weeks to pry the grin off my face after the ride you took me on.

Argh... now I can put a face to the name.

well i can safely say i completely underestimated the amount of work involved in cutting out the ifs its taking hours.

Well worth it thou... the best mod a Terrano can get I reckon

[darinz]

FYI a GQ steering box bolts on in place of the Terrano one so I'd suggest positioning the diff relative to the steering box. Then if you use the panhard strengthening bracket early GQ's have it will position the Panhard relative to the steering box and keep your geometry good. All you then need to do is make shorter panhard rod and drag link.
The only issue with this is it shifts the wheels foward about 4" but that improve approach angle anyway.
This also means the factory Terano steering shaft will bolt straight up.

The biggest problem you are going to run into is the GQ chassis runs far more arch where the diff is so the radius arm mounting point is actually lower than the chassis rail. On mine I've mounted the arms about 100mm (centre of bush) below the Terrano chassis. I'll have a lot more travel than you (18" coilovers and using all of them) but you'll still have to mount the arms below the chassis or else you castor will be very very bad.
Not only is the Terrano chassis narrower than a GQ it has a different shape so it will take quite a bit of work to do as you have said. (slide GQ over it)
I think what you'll need to do is make up something similar to the dropboxes you can buy for lifted GQ's and then mount that to the Terrano chassis.
FYI. I mounted mine direct to the underside of the chassis originally and the castor was really bad.

I'm running coilovers on mine so no help with spring and shock mounts.

Not saying don't use a GQ but a 60 Series Cruiser diff fits better (diff head position) and is a better width overall. With a GQ axle and 35x11.5 Simex, both centre blocks are outside the guards on mine so I'm having to flare the guards about 3" and still run about a 3" rubber flare on top of that! A 60 Series diff is narrow enough that you could get away with just rubber and spacers on the rear.

GQ brake master cylinder bolts on to Terrano booster!!

The motor, trans etc in mine is totally different to yours so no help to you there.

I'll try and take some photo's of mine (front diff as everything else on mine is irrelevant to what you are doing)so you can see the work involved as it may make you decide to do things differently. Not saying don't do it just be aware of how much work it really is.

[passengerpete]

why thank you mr Darinz that was very informative and comes at a very good time indeed. thanks for the heads up, i will now move diff forward for your reasons described makes sense when i think about it now lol. just need to google drop box now assuming it to lower the radius rods for geremonty.

[passengerpete]

yes take as Meany photos as ya want. always keen to see fab work
i have built and raced a couple of race cars, so am aware of the amount of work involved. But never built up a 4wd before so will be unsure on a few things so feel free to shear your opinions good or bad. leaning something new is always good.

[passengerpete]

just won a safari pto winch. on trade me, complete with pto unit, drive shafts ect. cant wait to get it. this week end mission is to finish off frame grinding and then start cutting into the safari chassis to rob the mounts well some of em any way . will make a new set of mounts for rear of radius rods to lower em .

[passengerpete]

some fun bits turned up today. thanks to Dave m for supplying and delivery, nice too meet you too

[passengerpete]

cut up the safari chassis today

cut to ruff size and keep the pan-hard rod mount in place and also left the steering box mounting holes to line em with the terrano steering box so did the same with the other side too so every thing is the same left and right.

dummy fitted still need a lot of work tho.

[passengerpete]

not much progress but getting there,
had to swap over rims as terrano wheels don't fit the safari the hub hole is to small

mocking up pto and shafts

made some measurements for new tunnel box will sent em away tomorrow to get made up

still unfinished but ya get the idea of what im trying to do will reshape the get welded next weekend

[passengerpete]

oh almost forgot the drop box's, what Ive done is cut em out of the safari chassis and swoop them left to right and turn them upside down, this will lower the radius arm about 85mm ish not quite the 100mm i was meant to but not running coil overs at mo so should be ok ish will wrap em up in plate steel to give then some guts and to protect them a bit as they will be exposed a bit

[juz]

Might solve the wide front end problem, can get other ones out of the states.
http://www.hannemannfiberglass.com/custom.asp?id=457567&page=41

[wax]

They look cool but I have heard bad things about those when it comes to fitment

[passengerpete]

i wonder if that navara gets used ? fiberglass guards and a bull bar braced to the radiator support panel.
those guards would cover the wheels, but not sure how fiberglass would handle the west coast ?
the diff will be under the car this weekend so will make a judgement call then. but thanks for the input all the same

[passengerpete]

cut, grind, tack, cut, grind, tack... repeat for five hours. why do engineer's make this shit look easy ? it's not fair. anyway don't look like i done much. but its wasted most of the day, basically just cut three holes in safari chassis plate,for plug type welds. and re shaped the ugly bits, and boxed in the rest of terrano chassis to meat safari chassis.



just needs the final welding on to the chassis.
next post the terrari will be on all fours .. but im a liar lol so will just see what happens.

[passengerpete]

starting to take shape still a long way tho.

still unfinished but about where it will sit ish

its unloaded in this pic so should be lower when the weight comes on.

[shortylux]

Nice work. Keep it up.

[passengerpete]

did a wee bit on the steering today.

thanks to dirtydog i now have a gq steering box, so put that in. was half way threw changing the p/s pumps over then realised the terrano and safari are the same ish, just sit on diff angles so put std one back together. also ordered a heavy duty drag link off 4wd parts and a extended front brake line. so will have a push on it next week end.

[passengerpete]

no more axle stands. poor wee terrari dose not have the weight to compress standard safari springs.


get better pics in morning was getting dark

[passengerpete]

today got the steering finished. using a mix of wd21 and y60 parts to make it all work together. had to cut off the towing eye, so steering box could turn left.

also put on the new heavy duty drag link bit of a over kill but i did not have one so why pay for a stock one then modify it. when the h/d is better and adjustable.

[passengerpete]

some better pic of how truck sits

you can see how far the diff was moved forward in this one

mounts for radius rods

got to buy/fine some wheel to bring track back in.

[kiwipete]

That's looking real nice now

[slide]

That's looking real nice now

+1

I'm looking forward to seeing a PTO winch hanging out the front

[DEATH_INC]

no more axle stands. poor wee terrari dose not have the weight to compress standard safari springs.

Get in touch with the boys at Chamberlains (Cobra) Mark will sort that out. http://cobrasprings.co.nz/

[tomsoffroad]

Get in touch with the boys at Chamberlains (Cobra) Mark will sort that out. http://cobrasprings.co.nz/

Or Tim at Autolign. Very good to deal with and very helpful

Looking good Pete. Going to be a wee weapon when finished

[passengerpete]

thanks for the advise on suspension chaps will go for a wee drive next weekend and flex it up and see where we go from there.
installed safari brake master cylinder today and started making a new front brake line, well its just a stock terrano one bent to suit the safari master. the terrano master has three pipes off it. front left/right. and back.the safari has two front and back. so the right hand side brake line has now become the clutch line so that worked out well. i need to do somthing about the sump as its sitting on diff at mo. was thinking eather cut up terrano one or use a 2wd navara one and baffel it not sure what to do just yet. am looking for a 4.6 or 4.8 safari front diff if any one knowes of one around.