another terrano/safari project = terrari

[passengerpete]

this weekend i bleed the brakes and clutch. then cleaned up the pto and reinstalled onto gearbox. filled gearbox and transfer case with oil, then went for a drive to the letter box and back. cant go to far as sump still sitting on diff so no suspension. first impressions are. brakes are mint. clutch feels shit, gearing feels lower, and steering feels faster. but only drove 15m each way so wont know till i drive it properly. will concentrate on the boring bits next to get em out of the way, revise lights, speedo, stop the atf light flashing at me.
brackets to hold brake lines in place, same with clutch. put new tunnel in, ect shit like that.

[slide]

sump still sitting on diff so no suspension

It'll dent itsself to shape

clutch feels shit

Soft feeling? Need better bleed up? Can be bicthes to bleed....

stop the atf light flashing at me.

Tape over it, or if ya want a pro job, remove bulb

[passengerpete]

cheers slide some great fixes there not to keen on the smashing sump in to place tho. the bulb out is a better ideas then mine. which was just cutting the wire i don't think it will affect anything else ? and clutch feels soft it is working but feels like there is no pressure. there is no air in line but was only bleeding slave cylinder, cant bleed master that i know of. slave is 3/4 master is 3/8 but that's how the terrano is. will re bleed and hope for the best.

[passengerpete]

clutch fixed and brackets made. brake line bracket made and welded on. sump and pick up on and working clearance good ish. engine oil and filter done. atf light disabled. gear stick in a more user friendly position, checked oils in gear box, transfer, and pto. also greased up pto sector .
flexed it up in 2wd to check clearances will put pics up later.
tomorrow's jobs are mod 4wd leaver, speedo, reverse lights. and start on winch mounting.


it will get to top of ramp but wont stay there by it self well i jump out to take pics lol.

[passengerpete]

i could not revise up ramp, as tow bar hit the deck. so just backed on to the jack. which would not go so hight. i need to use a proper ramp some day, but so far nothing is touching or binding.

i put a terrano 4wd leaver on the safari transfer it worked out perfect.
the rest of the day i was in the thinking chair with my crayons out make winch bar designs and mounting.
cant wait to get my training wheels off and got some big boy tyres. what is the min size tyre for the west cost tracks ?

[tomsoffroad]

Awesome dude You are more than welcome to chuck it up my ramp at some stage

[passengerpete]

Awesome dude You are more than welcome to chuck it up my ramp at some stage

cheers tom might come out for a road trip in a few weeks after the winch is on.

[niblik]

what is the min size tyre for the west coast tracks ?

depends what tracks ya wanna do, 33's i'd have to say would be the average 'bare minimum'... be prepared to get towed/winch a fair bit on those though.. all depends on ya lines and the tracks condition etc obviously..

good stuff on ya sas dude..

[passengerpete]

not much progress in the weekend as nothing went to plan. was trying to get revise lights working and 4wd light. but no luck will have to locate some wiring diagrams. as for speedo puled out the safari electrical sender put in terrano analog one and did not work so pulled out and swapped plastic cogs over and still did not work. so gave up and started mounting winch witch tuned in to a head f%&# as have to mount it ether inside chaise or above it. i put it all down to being a freezing cold day and my brain not getting up to operating temperature will give it a hammering next weekend. also brought my first bits of recovery gear, a cable dampener and a snack block.

[slide]

I'm going by memory here, but for reverse lights;
locate plugs on auto trans.
I think theres 3 plugs, a 2wire (starter inhibit), and two 8?wires.
One of the 8wires ( I forget if its red or grey plug) has a black and a green amonst the other colours ( all wires are seperate colours, not trace colours along the main colour). Join black and green positions (on vehicle ) together = reverse lights come on . So if you extend the wiring back from this plug to reverse sender (on top of safari box?) then bingo . Will work in reverse when ignition on .
Let me know if this doesn't work

[passengerpete]

I'm going by memory here, but for reverse lights;
locate plugs on auto trans.
I think theres 3 plugs, a 2wire (starter inhibit), and two 8?wires.
One of the 8wires ( I forget if its red or grey plug) has a black and a green amonst the other colours ( all wires are seperate colours, not trace colours along the main colour). Join black and green positions (on vehicle ) together = reverse lights come on . So if you extend the wiring back from this plug to reverse sender (on top of safari box?) then bingo . Will work in reverse when ignition on .
Let me know if this doesn't work

thanks your correct, its the Grey plug. now have revise lights thanks. don't suppose ya know how the 4wd dash light works of the top of ya head, thanks for ya help much appreciated.

[passengerpete]

problem solved... blown bulb i must have knocked it when pulling out atp and a/t temp,

[passengerpete]

today fixed the front sway bar, had to go to a car yard to see how it sat first then just copped it they seem odd as they have odd shapes in them for no real reason that i can see. had to lengthen the links by 80mm so the sway bar looked level. i just re sleeved em as its just temporary. will just buy new longer ones latter on.

and now up in place.

went to auto line and the guy there was very helpful. so rear shocks sorted now.
the floor is still being a pain in the ass, i don't have the gear to fold steel nicely so are paying a mate to do it for me,

[Dirtydog]

Glad you put the p/s box to good use, i ended up using my standard terrano one.

its a bummer, i thought that i had posted on here but didnt so forgot about the thread.

im going for the terrano gearbox with safari transfer, that way all the ratios are the same as stock.

Do ya need a sway bar for this? i dont have any, so will be interesting.

cant wait to test out my flex, really looking foward to it.

I didnt relise that you had done the subaru thing, i have just brought one aswell, looking at doing the exact same thing. how hard was it to plumb in? and is the space necessary?

If theres any info your stuck on mine is almost complete, just the last final stages to do like brake etc.

Also, how far off are your diff widths? mine are 100mm exactly.
and to fix the whole flaring issue im going to be making up some custom flares similar to the navara posted earlier, that uses all the factory mounting points (on the front anyway) mines a four door, but will make both.

I will be coming up to christchurch in the near future to visit mates and would be interested to take mine out up there for a bit if ya wanna meet up? pm me if your interested

Looking foward to see how it goes,

Tristan

[passengerpete]

hi mate yes the p/s box is mint and works sweet as. cheers.
as for gearboxes i was not to concerned about keeping stock ratios as there all wrong the moment ya put bigger tyres on any way, i just put a different speedo cog on the gearbox sender. for me, using the std gearbox was not a option as it was %#@ked to start with. hence the conversion to the stronger box, and the terrano box's are way over priced in my opinion. i was quoted about $1000 for a manual one. then add in the cost of all the manual conversion bits (mine was auto) even repairing the factory auto was going to be $900 for a quick fix and about $2800 for a rebuild, i cant justify spending that sort of money on it, knowing i was going to sas in the future. lol. im very keen to see how you went about adapting the safari transfer onto your trans. it will be awesome to meat up with ya and swap some stories. mine should be certified in the next 8 weeks all going well.
on a side note the r50 gearbox seems to be getting some good reviews for a bolt in job.
as for sway bars yes im pretty sure if ya truck came with one it needs to go back on if i can remember rightly.
yes inter cooler worked out well, but did need to get modified to sit nicely, i had to rotate the outlet side so it lined up with turbo. i used the spacer as it was cheaper then buying silicone bends that's the only reason i used it.

i did not have a body lift in place in this pic the bonnet shuts with 3mm to spear. a small massage of bonnet bracing would be needed if no body lift.
for brakes im using stock safari brakes they are working heaps better then my terrano ones. what are you doing to yours ?
as for widths i haven't checked but i guessing it would be the same as yours i used a 1995 front end i think there all the same width ? in that shape.
post up some pics of ya flares on the front im keen to see how ya go about it, then ill just copy you
yip real keen to meet up and see ya truck.
sorry for the novel i get carried away some times.

[Dirtydog]

lol i know how ya feel, mines got 2 inch bodylift in it allready, but mine sits way lower than yours.

its probably because its all set up to have safari springs and shocks (makes it easier if i want to buy a kit)

my one uses safari front brakes, so im glad to hear they work well.

i suppose with my gearbox its a bit different as i prefer auto's

my whole safari box only cost $400 and its fine, but the equivelent manual one would have cost a grand.

but i will be keeping the auto box for later mods as i am thinking of shoving a v8 under the hood at some stage, way later on.

as with the sway bars the certifier hasnt said anything about it yet. so might not mention it to him. the guy working on my truck is lucky enough to know the certifier pretty well so he pops in from time to time and does checks every now and again, rather than having completed it and find out its not legal.

My original idea was to put safari front and back under it, but because the safari's have a cardinal shaft handbrake aparently you cant, has to be the same handbrake system., but i will most likely get the handbrake hooked up to the drum on the back of the transfer anyway.

it will probably be a while before mines certified, want to make sure i get all the mods done at once, to save some money lol.

[tomsoffroad]

as with the sway bars the certifier hasnt said anything about it yet. so might not mention it to him. the guy working on my truck is lucky enough to know the certifier pretty well so he pops in from time to time and does checks every now and again, rather than having completed it and find out its not legal.

Sway bars aren't mandatory. Depends on how much body roll it has when the certfier takes it for the road test Personally I'd fit em to the front at least.

[Dirtydog]

owell well have to see what he says, i dont really want swaybars, for offroad reasons, so hopefully wont need them.

as it is i think the front will have more flex than the rear lol

[passengerpete]

put shocks in

i cleaned all the shit out of it, and drove it the 2 kms to its new home for the next few days, to get new floor put in. driving it felt good seemed to wonder a bit and was noisy as hell with a hole in floor. will have to get a new clutch tho as it rattles badly i kinder thought if might have as the springs in the plate where lose to start with, will sort that out latter on.

[Dirtydog]

looking good, how much lift do ya reackon youll end up with?

my front sits 3 inches higher than the rear, which is allready got2 inch lift, plus 2 inch body lift lol

oh, and i might be able to get some cheap spacers if you are looking for some, 25mm ones. have to sort out a few details though.

[passengerpete]

looking good, how much lift do ya reackon youll end up with?

my front sits 3 inches higher than the rear, which is allready got2 inch lift, plus 2 inch body lift lol

oh, and i might be able to get some cheap spacers if you are looking for some, 25mm ones. have to sort out a few details though.

not sure on lift it just sits where it sits on std y60 springs. its roof line is still lower then a std hilux. rear is meant to be 75mm but measure 93mm. i will pass on ya offer of spacers. as i had a bad experience with them on the race car once, so will never ever run spacers on anything again. will use offset rear wheels first then latter on put a safari axle in rear.

[Dirtydog]

thats fair enough i suppose, i was reading up somewhere (cant remember at all now) about subaru brakes with normal handbrake cable fit on them with some modification. i know there was trouble with me when i wanted to put the safari rear in, due to different hand brake setups.

[passengerpete]

your probably right. i have not looked into it at all to be honest. brake upgrades are not too hard to nut out have done a few now. i wont be changing the rear for a few minutes so no point stressing just yet.

[Dirtydog]

lol, it all came down to the cardinal shaft style handbrake not being better than a wired one.

but yea, thats another ball game.

plus, its easy to find low ratio diffheads for terrano's.

oh, just a question, howd you go with the front diff? does it swap over easy?? were at that stage of the mod now so any info would be awesome

[passengerpete]

80 series land cruiser has a internal drum /disk set up and same pcd would investigate that one too but first the std terrano set up one would need a closer look first.
as for diffs the safari front one is hi pinion so not like a hilux where front to back is all good. im going to go safari sprint front 4.6 with my lsd center and rear open terrano 4.6 with lock right. as a option ya could use the common 4.1 safari diff and a v6 terrano 4.1 then lower transfer case gears.

[passengerpete]

went around to mates work shop to see how floor was getting on. and it had a wee bit done but was mostly pushed to one side while his rush jobs came in all week.

its funny now that Ive seen how hes going about it i wish i had a go at it first. the end result of his work will be far superior to any thing i hacked together. watch and learn i guess.
while he made templates, i went and pulled out front diff again and started cutting off spring perches so can move them in 34mm each side. i have been meaning to do that for ages.

things left to do are. bump stops, sway bar links, front drive shaft, winch, wheels and tyres. then cert. still lots to do but can do em after cert. i hope.

[Dirtydog]

cool as, looking good.

for future reference the 4.1 crown and pinion out of the rear safari fits over the terrano rear carrier. even an LSD one.

ive only got to get the gear shifter and 4x4 selector to modify and it will be finished.

oh and front brakes plumbed in.

looks like it wont take too much longer for mine to be finished.

looking foward to see how the new tunnel turns out.

[Paulballz]

hey mate just stumbled across your write up and would like to say well done on all the work its come a long way since standard..its got my mind thinking about sasing terrano..one day

[Dirtydog]

DOO ITTTTT!!!!

its well worth it. lol, so many parts are interchangeable (to a certain extent)

[tomsoffroad]

Just wondering Pete, do you have plans to lower the rear panhard chassis mount? Might be a little twitchy in the rear end on that angle.