I was up there weekend before last with one other truck both road legal passed another legal truck on the way down. there were 6 very obvious non legal motorcycles at the summit also passed a home built buggy going down.There was also a new rice burning race bike not road legal traveling at very high speed towards the summit the rider came so close to having a face that looked like a Nissan PTO winch it wasn't funny.The fact is they can't legally use these unformed public roads no matter how much fun it is.These idiots put access to these special places at risk as DOC and Councils may decide its too much trouble and walk away because of a few muppets.
It's a tricky situation as although there is use by unregistered bikes, buggies etc. there is also such use by some club 4x4's and to suggest to the Council that they police unregistered machinery would capture 4x4 too. When the road is in reasonable nick there will be the 'Pikes Peak' type of use by some, but of course when the drainage fails and mud holes develop, there is a high risk of slips being generated.
A concept considered at one time for other routes has been to introduce 'rock fields' at points on a track to create a need to slow down or even limit 2WD access.
there was a great rocky area to climb once but the bully destroyed it moving a slip and creating more slips due to blade damages at the edge of the track
My god alot of you guys are whining old nags. Why do you guys get so worked up about a such a small thing. All the op was about was asking people to not abuse the access they have. and to try and keep their speed down. Whats so bad about that? Man i'm glad that i still live in an area were people still respect public property and if they are asked to take a little bit of care for the sake of continued access they do it and not act like a bunch of moaning old woman.
Man some of you people need to grow up and stop complaining!
My god alot of you guys are whining old nags. Why do you guys get so worked up about a such a small thing. All the op was about was asking people to not abuse the access they have. and to try and keep their speed down. Whats so bad about that? Man i'm glad that i still live in an area were people still respect public property and if they are asked to take a little bit of care for the sake of continued access they do it and not act like a bunch of moaning old woman.
Man some of you people need to grow up and stop complaining!
Who's whining Now
People have a right to comment this is a public forum, by the way have you ever done Thompson's track??
My god alot of you guys are whining old nags. Why do you guys get so worked up about a such a small thing. All the op was about was asking people to not abuse the access they have. and to try and keep their speed down. Whats so bad about that? Man i'm glad that i still live in an area were people still respect public property and if they are asked to take a little bit of care for the sake of continued access they do it and not act like a bunch of moaning old woman.
Man some of you people need to grow up and stop complaining!
Who's whining Now
People have a right to comment this is a public forum, by the way have you ever done Thompson's track??
He is talking about previous posts (well that's the way I take it), and it has nothing to do with 'have you used the track before or not'. Access is access. Doesn't matter where. The same rules of courtesy and respect apply in all cases.
Can't resist commenting on this... while Maratoto was closed for much of this past summer, it has finally had the digger treatment and should be in good shape for the coming summer. DoC are happy with the effort to maintain Maratoto and have even commented that it should reflect well in the pending CMS document for Waikato.
Can't resist commenting on this... while Maratoto was closed for much of this past summer, it has finally had the digger treatment and should be in good shape for the coming summer. DoC are happy with the effort to maintain Maratoto and have even commented that it should reflect well in the pending CMS document for Waikato.
That is great news Peter, awesome look forward to the summer.
Can't resist commenting on this... while Maratoto was closed for much of this past summer, it has finally had the digger treatment and should be in good shape for the coming summer. DoC are happy with the effort to maintain Maratoto and have even commented that it should reflect well in the pending CMS document for Waikato.
Went up Thompsons Track last weekend, and I must say it was a good trip up and down, weather was great apart from being a bit cold. The slip clear up was all good they have done an excellent job on that, but I would not keep your hopes up Iam guessing in the next good down pour there might be another slip as having a look there are exposed rocks visible and could come down also one part of the track is very narrow with a shear drop on the side and the bigger trucks will have an interesting time getting through that part, so long as not more has fallen away that is.
I just though I write something as a heads up, and for all that do go up there to keep your wits about you when going up there, this is a great track.
Drurban wrote: also one part of the track is very narrow with a shear drop on the side and the bigger trucks will have an interesting time getting through that part, so long as not more has fallen away that is.
Yea that part gives me the shits when I got the family along. Could be a tradegy wating to happen one day .
No one likes hoons outside there house . this sounds like nothing more than a friendly heads up about some ppl (likely young hoons probly no one on here anyway) annoying 1 or 2 locals .
Heeps of room past that big drop off I get my lwb patrol on 38s past easy, why dose it's always come back to it likely being "young" hoons, I'm young, only 19 and I have what the public calls a monster truck and not seen as a hoon and it's completely road legal with cert, all I'm saying is that there are just as many older hoons around, dont assume it's just young people.
Not a personal attack just stating a point.
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92 safari 17 wrote:Heeps of room past that big drop off I get my lwb patrol on 38s past easy, why dose it's always come back to it likely being "young" hoons, I'm young, only 19 and I have what the public calls a monster truck and not seen as a hoon and it's completely road legal with cert, all I'm saying is that there are just as many older hoons around, dont assume it's just young people.
Not a personal attack just stating a point.
Thats not what muzza reckons he says you should be banned but drinking some whiskey near the top is all good.
DaveM wrote: There was a big debate about this years ago when a member had a video showing them driving through a creek beside a ford in Pureora from memory.
That is one of the main reasons I didn't renew my membership of the Nelson 4X4 club because they are supporting the NZWDA after my run in with the said person as well as the clubs 33 inch tyre rule.
It is better do your own thing and enjoy yourself without all the bullshit
Cheers Richard
Well enjoy 'doing your own thing' while it lasts Richard....Peter is right-look at international trends. I remember the big Baja debate in the 70,s (not 1870,s LOL). Remember the pen is mightier than the sword and a swipe of the pen would restrict you to fundraisers and Tagalongs....and I,m sure you are a most desirable customer with your attitude...
MUZZADUCK wrote: Well enjoy 'doing your own thing' while it lasts Richard....Peter is right-look at international trends. I remember the big Baja debate in the 70,s (not 1870,s LOL). Remember the pen is mightier than the sword and a swipe of the pen would restrict you to fundraisers and Tagalongs....and I,m sure you are a most desirable customer with your attitude...
Because of organizing "Coast to Coasts" in the past I have enough good relationships with farmers on the West Coast with old bush tracks on private Farmland that I don't need your Tagalongs or the NZFWDA to enjoy myself and no swipe of a pen can stop me regardless of what size tyre I want to run.
So I am smiling all the way to the bank
Cheers Richard
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MUZZADUCK wrote:If you are going to quote me, or comment-please stick to the facts. Thank you.
I can see your attitudes starting to improve but theres still a long way to go mate, once you pull your head in and learn how to post constructively without going on offensive attacks on every thread and everyone that pops up in front of you we'll be able to start taking your contributions a bit more seriously and with some credibility and the forum will return to a ballanced discussion forum rather than the shit fight and destruction your turning everything into.... keep working on it and you might get there and eventually earn the recognition and respect your seeking mate
theres a long list of dickheads that have come on here with bad attitudes and crashed and burnt
West side was clear to the top sunday just gone. There was a slip a few months back on the east side we had to winch our quads over but I thought i read on here since then about trucks goin right through??
What a load of crap that started this post. It's nobodies business but the driver and the police as to weather a vehicle is driven on the road legal or not. Most of us are happy to take the risk when the needed. This world we all live in is getting worse by the day with all this PC crap and everybody seems to bow down to it. Well stand up to it i say. Drive your truck with no rego. Wash your truck in the creek. Cut down the gates the suits put up. Stand up for your rights to use what is and has been put there by our fore fathers for exactly the reasons we use them for, access. Otherwise start learning chinese real fast if you're a puppet.
COILY wrote: Well stand up to it i say. Drive your truck with no rego. Wash your truck in the creek. Cut down the gates the suits put up. Stand up for your rights to use what is and has been put there by our fore fathers for exactly the reasons we use them for, access.
Thanks. I have been going over Thompsons Track since i was 8 years old im 34 now so over 25 years on bikes and 4x4s and even walked a bit and i dont intend to stop now. Im so sick of having all our tracks closed around the district. Everybody has a breaking point and seeing this post i think i just got to mine. Lately i have seen Whakamarama closed and a gate across a beach at Matata and heard stories of all sorts of track closures (and certain organisations getting special access)! All people like Peter have done is crated themselves a paid job (unless i got it wrong) to grease up the asses of these Bureaucrats at 4wders expense.
Coily, you sure as hell have got it wrong. You are wrong on many counts and you can rest assured that if some of us had not been active in working with land managers like DoC and Councils, there would be a lot more gates than there are. I do admit that it was probably not until I was about your age that I realised that if 4x4 recreation didn't start talking with land managers about their concerns and how we might help manage those concerns, we'd be losing access. Overall we've not done too badly over the last 25 years.
If you've concerns about certain closures then explain them and identify the places so that the legality can be checked.