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Not naming names or anything here!
But you'd have to wonder how those front steering arms on this FJ40 got cert, let alone how the rear axle flexed. Real red neck. :lol:
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If carved out of a piece of solid arm could be certed but dosnt look as has been. dodgy cert guys are around. especially in the early cert years. whats on the other end of of the torque arm. I run similar on diff but with more movement in rubbers than that. anchored in two points on diff in-line with each other. On front of torque arm i run a spring shackal style with rose joints on rod end. the spring shackel allows for change of length when diff cycles. its also adjustable so can control anti squat to some degree. the rose joint allows plenty of articulation. so whats on front anchorage point?
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pruggerdore wrote:so whats on front anchorage point?

Pretty much the same as the rear. Making it near impossible for the axle to flex.
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You won't need too much as in the middle doesn't accentuate bush movement like outer of diff might.

Anyways, 40's don't flex.
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niblik wrote:You won't need too much as in the middle doesn't accentuate bush movement like outer of diff might.

Anyways, 40's don't flex.


true that, flex like a skateboard :mrgreen:
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wopass wrote:
niblik wrote:You won't need too much as in the middle doesn't accentuate bush movement like outer of diff might.

Anyways, 40's don't flex.


true that, flex like a skateboard :mrgreen:


The trucks on my old skateboard used to do the mean as flexing down the Manchester Street carpark in the late 70's when they opened it for the skateboarders!! :mrgreen: (anyone member that?)

I hear what your saying though. But surely if you're going to build a track bar, you're going to build it so one rear wheel can tuck under one guard while the other leaves the ground? Well that's how mine was built. :shock:
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my 40 tramp bar is very similar to that and it crosses up better in the back then the front coil setup
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petefj40 wrote:The trucks on my old skateboard used to do the mean as flexing down the Manchester Street carpark in the late 70's when they opened it for the skateboarders!! :mrgreen: (anyone member that?)



Fark you are old :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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rangimotors wrote:Image


:lol:

Farken old Grant!
That 5 story carpark was mean as to skateboard down!!

The front of mine used to flex ok. 8)
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petefj40 wrote:Image

Not naming names or anything here!
But you'd have to wonder how those front steering arms on this FJ40 got cert, let alone how the rear axle flexed. Real red neck. :lol:


if weld by certified welder then xrayed no problem. the only loading they take is the wheel been turned against the steering, the steering box is more likely to spit the dummy before those arms.

The diff i have concerns about when it comes to articulation, may lead to bent brackets or ripped out of the floor if not mounted on chassis.

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likemagic wrote:[

if weld by certified welder then xrayed no problem. the only loading they take is the wheel been turned against the steering, the steering box is more likely to spit the dummy before those arms.

Maurice


You may not have a problem with it, but the certification process seems to very clearly state that no steering component shall be welded for any reason what soever.
Quite strange when you consider that most steering shafts (on the low pressure side) are welded at the factory.
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rokhound wrote:
likemagic wrote:[

if weld by certified welder then xrayed no problem. the only loading they take is the wheel been turned against the steering, the steering box is more likely to spit the dummy before those arms.

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You may not have a problem with it, but the certification process seems to very clearly state that no steering component shall be welded for any reason what soever.
Quite strange when you consider that most steering shafts (on the low pressure side) are welded at the factory.


ah yeah but they are done by "certified" operators, which is a load of bollocks, i used to work at mitsi where they welded the L200 chassis together, the operators had a little bit of training but after that they just went for it, welding each side of the chassis in time to minimise warping, they were not ticketed at all in any form.

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The arm's maybe legal the rules used to allow welding as "likemagic" said they were changed about 4yrs ago....

If the truck were to go for another cert they will be assessed under the new rules... they will fail for the weld and they arn't thick enough, the arm should be 20mm thick :wink:
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That white x mark on the steering arm was put there by the LTSA stating a "fail" for cert.
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likemagic wrote:The diff i have concerns about when it comes to articulation, may lead to bent brackets or ripped out of the floor if not mounted on chassis.

Maurice


That's what I thought in regards to articulation. But one thing is for sure. The floor only being a couple of mm thick and being separate from the chassis, there's no way anyone would mount it from there. Would only be from the chassis. But hey, the 40 doesn't look geared up to go off road at all. A stock 40 would be more capable.
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Is that a cv driveshaft?
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niblik wrote:Is that a cv driveshaft?


Not sure Jase. They looked stock to me.
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