New WOF rules announced

[mylux]

Ha to all those who bag police I ask one thing who you guna call when you need help

Ghostbusters

[pressy]

Ha to all those who bag police I ask one thing who you guna call when you need help

Call them and offer them money

[Tarmac]

Yay, now the under funded police force who prev had better things to do than issue traffic tickets can now spend more time enforcing this BS than "catching crims" for want of a better phrase

This is saving money on the newest 30% of the vehicles on the road - possibly owned by the portion of NZ who is in the upper 25% of the income level... who possibly chokes down every word from john key like it was something else....

[Sadam_Husain]

nothings changed..... its still the motorists responsibility to ensure the vehicle they are driving is up to wof standard at all times regardless of the frequency wofs need to be issued

[Tarmac]

You are completely correct...

[crazyclark31]

thing i reckon is that there are gunna be less fines as alot of the younger people i know only get a wof once a year any how.

one thing i do think needs to happen is it should be part of the licence test to show basic skills in vechile maintaince. Then people will actually know when things like tyres,brakes etc need serviced. Then longer wof periods wouldn't be such an issue.

[ladeda]

omg guys get over it hahaha. such a huge cry for such a small change.

I recon most cops arnt going to be doing anything diferently due to this change why would they whats in it for them....Nothing.

Yes it should be part of owning a vehicle that you keep it up to a safe standard but general people dont want to know about it. So the wof system is a good thing because for a fair fee someone will do it for you.

The only reason joe blogs is gona get some new tyres or what ever, is due to being told to by the wof man, not on his own accord, evin tho he has known he needed them ages ago. shit most ppl wouldn't even know what a Ferken worn tyre looks like fer feck sakes.

how can you say its going to save the upper income earners money. they just spent alot of money and bough a new car supporting our economy i woulda thought, shit you get free wofs with most new cars anyway.

Keep Calm and Carry On guys its all going to be O.K.

[Sadam_Husain]

Yes it should be part of owning a vehicle that you keep it up to a safe standard but general people dont want to know about it. So the wof system is a good thing because for a fair fee someone will do it for you.

sorry dont mean to pick on your post mate but thats the same common arguement I've been listening to everyone banging on about on the radio ever since the govt announced there would be changes..... its a flawed arguement that the wof system keeps vehicles safe coz they might be safe for the first day a wof is issued but the next 5 months and 30 days nobodys checking the vehicle for steering, suspension, brake and whatever other safety defects and joe public that knows nothing happily drives around in a potentialy unsafe and or dangerous vehicle thinking everythings fine coz they passed their last wof

[ladeda]

Yes it should be part of owning a vehicle that you keep it up to a safe standard but general people dont want to know about it. So the wof system is a good thing because for a fair fee someone will do it for you.

sorry dont mean to pick on your post mate but thats the same common arguement I've been listening to everyone banging on about on the radio ever since the govt announced there would be changes..... its a flawed arguement that the wof system keeps vehicles safe coz they might be safe for the first day a wof is issued but the next 5 months and 30 days nobodys checking the vehicle for steering, suspension, brake and whatever other safety defects and joe public that knows nothing happily drives around in a potentialy unsafe and or dangerous vehicle thinking everythings fine coz they passed their last wof

All good bro and Yea I agree whith what you saying however what would be the better solution? ' a wof check every month?? (thatll get the boys complining ) .
Evin if it was SOP for licence holders to have basic vehicle maintence and safty check skills I doubt in 90% of cases it would actualy make a diff. People don't like taking responsibility for there own safty that way they can point the finger when it goes wrong. Ignerince is bliss ( spelling sorry).

I think as a wof inspector you should be able to asses weather the vehicle will be safe till the next wof i.e. will those pads/tyres etc last 6 months or 1 year? If in doubt fail it..

In Qld they have dudes in utes with purple lights on the roof driving around looking for unsafe vehicles and pulling them over like a cop and taking them off the road if need be, I think something like this would be a good strat and would free up the police also.

[007]

Love the new WOF rule.

At last a govt that does something.

[churchill]

I think this brings us into line with other countries. WA only has warrants when a vehicle is sold or is deemed to be unsafe.

Supposedly NZ only has around 2 deaths due to mechanical failures a year. I know any death is no good but there are other things we should be focusing on eg drink/drugs/careless driving as theses are causing way more issues.

[tangy]

Whats a WOF?

[smurf182]

This is saving money on the newest 30% of the vehicles on the road - possibly owned by the portion of NZ who is in the upper 25% of the income level... who possibly chokes down every word from john key like it was something else....

Come off it, the Missus has an '02 Jazz, it was barely $6k, hardly high rollers now are we? You do realise the year 2000 was 13 years ago don't you? Early 2000s shopping trolleys are pretty affordable.

[Dirtydog]

Whats a WOF?

[ladeda]

Whats a WOF?

Its the noise a poodle makes

[Pedro]

I think as a wof inspector you should be able to asses weather the vehicle will be safe till the next wof i.e. will those pads/tyres etc last 6 months or 1 year? If in doubt fail it..

heard this logic on the radio.. so if a tyre has 3mm tread it would fail, what if the owner is a little old lady (for want of a better example) that does a 300 kilometers every 6 months vs a sale rep that rocks in with new tyre and does 60 -70k a year and goes thru a few sets of tyre a year, end of the day, if the vehicle is safe ie tyres brakes etc at time of inspection then how can it be failed, how many boy racers get a warrant and then go home and bolt the illegal shit back onto it, assuming they bothered to get a warrant in the first place.

regardless of the the law it is only the ones who bother to get a warrant who will be likely concerned about the safety of their car, the others that dont bother are likey to not care and drive anything on the road.

Pedro

[CLUMZ1]

Whats a WOF?

I hope your username isn't short for Tangimoana

[Tarmac]

This is saving money on the newest 30% of the vehicles on the road - possibly owned by the portion of NZ who is in the upper 25% of the income level... who possibly chokes down every word from john key like it was something else....

Come off it, the Missus has an '02 Jazz, it was barely $6k, hardly high rollers now are we? You do realise the year 2000 was 13 years ago don't you? Early 2000s shopping trolleys are pretty affordable.

Yeah I can count backwards 13 times.... Have a ute of that vintage cost a little more than your "jazz". The manager at work is lookin at a mid 2000's new car at around a "jazz" x 8. I feel your being a little selective in your example.

[motardbiker]

nothings changed..... its still the motorists responsibility to ensure the vehicle they are driving is up to wof standard at all times regardless of the frequency wofs need to be issued

I agree.

[ladeda]

I think as a wof inspector you should be able to asses weather the vehicle will be safe till the next wof i.e. will those pads/tyres etc last 6 months or 1 year? If in doubt fail it..

heard this logic on the radio.. so if a tyre has 3mm tread it would fail, what if the owner is a little old lady (for want of a better example) that does a 300 kilometers every 6 months vs a sale rep that rocks in with new tyre and does 60 -70k a year and goes thru a few sets of tyre a year, end of the day, if the vehicle is safe ie tyres brakes etc at time of inspection then how can it be failed, how many boy racers get a warrant and then go home and bolt the illegal shit back onto it, assuming they bothered to get a warrant in the first place.

regardless of the the law it is only the ones who bother to get a warrant who will be likely concerned about the safety of their car, the others that dont bother are likey to not care and drive anything on the road.

Pedro

thats where, as I already said it comes down to the wof inspectors discrection. knowning his customer only does 300km he can evaluate each on a case by case basis.
Im not saying I have the answers cos i don't. however instead of only highlighting over and over again the same problems that have allways been there, why are we not coming up with solutions istead of only critising those that at least try??
you will never stop someone that wants to cheat or boycot the system we all know this already and Im shure alot of us at some point have used the flaws in the system to our benifit.

I have already sujested one possible idea is to do something similar to what they do in In Queensland where they have mechanically qualified land transport dudes in utes (different and independant to the police) that have he authority to order a vehicle off the road if found to be unsafe. It would be prity easy for them to spot dangerous vehicles. this will also free up alot of police time for them to do police work.

Furthermore, as already mentioned, the amount of deaths on our road due to mechanical failure is bugger all. If you ask me id say, if you knowingly don't upkeep your vehicle and use the wof system to keep it safe then well hay your kinda asking for it aint ya, I mean there is only so much the government can do to stop stupid ppl killing themselves and others on our roads...

[Sadam_Husain]

thats where, as I already said it comes down to the wof inspectors discrection. knowning his customer only does 300km he can evaluate each on a case by case basis.

hey sorry I'm not stalking your posts honest mate I just keep reading bits I like responding to


it cant be descression coz the wof guy will pass the little old lady with 3mm tread on her tyres but fail the sales rep with 8mm tread coz his wont last the distance till the next wof. Thats turning wof inspections into scheduled vehicle servicing and they are both very different things. Wof regulations prescribe minimum limits at the time of wof not limits to last untill the next wof is due if things start becoming descression based the whole system has no boundaries and falls apart

[ladeda]

thats where, as I already said it comes down to the wof inspectors discrection. knowning his customer only does 300km he can evaluate each on a case by case basis.

hey sorry I'm not stalking your posts honest mate I just keep reading bits I like responding to


it cant be descression coz the wof guy will pass the little old lady with 3mm tread on her tyres but fail the sales rep with 8mm tread coz his wont last the distance till the next wof. Thats turning wof inspections into scheduled vehicle servicing and they are both very different things. Wof regulations prescribe minimum limits at the time of wof not limits to last untill the next wof is due if things start becoming descression based the whole system has no boundaries and falls apart

mmm I see what ya mean. point noted (If i listend to the radio I provb woulda allready realised this )
I think this again shows even more why a transport inspector type system cauld be of value.

[Tarmac]

There is already discretion out there, cannot be specfic as dont want to get others in trouble. slightly larger than tec legit rubber, ? pillar rust etc... essentially "dont be a cnt" and instead of a fail you get a warning for next time or advice. and the vehicle in question had a dealer wof on it when purchased

[coxsy]

had the front tryes on my ute passed wof test, but on hard braking they slide on the the road, was pissed off an fitted new front tyes,
the brake test machine can't find that fault

[Taz]

I think as a wof inspector you should be able to asses weather the vehicle will be safe till the next wof i.e. will those pads/tyres etc last 6 months or 1 year? If in doubt fail it..

heard this logic on the radio.. so if a tyre has 3mm tread it would fail, what if the owner is a little old lady (for want of a better example) that does a 300 kilometers every 6 months vs a sale rep that rocks in with new tyre and does 60 -70k a year and goes thru a few sets of tyre a year, end of the day, if the vehicle is safe ie tyres brakes etc at time of inspection then how can it be failed, how many boy racers get a warrant and then go home and bolt the illegal shit back onto it, assuming they bothered to get a warrant in the first place.

regardless of the the law it is only the ones who bother to get a warrant who will be likely concerned about the safety of their car, the others that dont bother are likey to not care and drive anything on the road.

Pedro

thats where, as I already said it comes down to the wof inspectors discrection. knowning his customer only does 300km he can evaluate each on a case by case basis.
Im not saying I have the answers cos i don't. however instead of only highlighting over and over again the same problems that have allways been there, why are we not coming up with solutions istead of only critising those that at least try??
you will never stop someone that wants to cheat or boycot the system we all know this already and Im shure alot of us at some point have used the flaws in the system to our benifit.

I have already sujested one possible idea is to do something similar to what they do in In Queensland where they have mechanically qualified land transport dudes in utes (different and independant to the police) that have he authority to order a vehicle off the road if found to be unsafe. It would be prity easy for them to spot dangerous vehicles. this will also free up alot of police time for them to do police work.

Furthermore, as already mentioned, the amount of deaths on our road due to mechanical failure is bugger all. If you ask me id say, if you knowingly don't upkeep your vehicle and use the wof system to keep it safe then well hay your kinda asking for it aint ya, I mean there is only so much the government can do to stop stupid ppl killing themselves and others on our roads...

Why is it all on the WOF man? Fark that. Pass at the time is pass at the time. The rules are clear. It is on the owner to make sure everything is fine after that. Always has been.

[Suza]

Why is it all on the WOF man? Fark that. Pass at the time is pass at the time. The rules are clear. It is on the owner to make sure everything is fine after that. Always has been.

Bingo. You hit the nail on the head

[PeterVahry]

It's amazing the time spent debating about something that the government has done that won't affect your four wheeling... while there is the question of the various DoC CMS that most certainly will affect your recreation!

If everyone is hoping that someone else will put forward comments to DoC about what's in the draft CMS's, then you are probably very wrong.

Debate the issues of the three current CMS drafts and be aware of options to have input into the writing of other drafts yet to come around the country.

Anyone anywhere can comment on a draft CMS.... let something through on the first ones and it will be hard to counter similar things in the future.

[Taz]

It's amazing the time spent debating about something that the government has done that won't affect your four wheeling... while there is the question of the various DoC CMS that most certainly will affect your recreation!

If everyone is hoping that someone else will put forward comments to DoC about what's in the draft CMS's, then you are probably very wrong.

Debate the issues of the three current CMS drafts and be aware of options to have input into the writing of other drafts yet to come around the country.

Anyone anywhere can comment on a draft CMS.... let something through on the first ones and it will be hard to counter similar things in the future.

Well that stopped the moaning

[Fakey]

had the front tryes on my ute passed wof test, but on hard braking they slide on the the road, was pissed off an fitted new front tyes,
the brake test machine can't find that fault

Didnt you buy a courier recently? Id say it is more a case of your proportioning valve being adjusted up too much, New tyres may mask the problem but if you have little weight in the back of those utes theyre bad for locking the fronts.
If they wrote down the braking efficiency % theyre prob right on the limit.

[Fakey]

I think as a wof inspector you should be able to asses weather the vehicle will be safe till the next wof i.e. will those pads/tyres etc last 6 months or 1 year? If in doubt fail it..

No it has to be assesed as it is presented on the day, some discression is used but its limited to how it looks on the day




I have already sujested one possible idea is to do something similar to what they do in In Queensland where they have mechanically qualified land transport dudes in utes (different and independant to the police) that have he authority to order a vehicle off the road if found to be unsafe. It would be prity easy for them to spot dangerous vehicles. this will also free up alot of police time for them to do police work.

I think all the boys in Nz would hate this, they have a habit of taking the easy targets like lifted 4x4s an modded imports rather than the rusted out pieces of shit with bald tyres an brakes that hardly work that I see driving around over here. These sorts of vehicles will still be checked once every 6 months in NZ so its not a worry over there. But here they can just pay rego every year an provided they dont get pulled over by Dot they can drive them until the wheels fall off, Literally

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