Remote free spool on electric winches

[sibainmud]

Doing a bit of research and development.
I'm looking at different ways of getting in-cab free-spool activation. At this stage just looking at ideas. I don't mind if it is manual with cables or alike, pneumatics, hydraulics or anything I may not of thought about yet.
Some of the winches in mind are; Tigerz11, Runva, Superwinch, Warn (both low mounts and 8274's) as the results might determine what winch I end up with for next build.
Any ideas no matter how far out will be considered.

Many thanks in advance.

Cheers,

[kbushnz]

I only ever thought about something for a low mount Warn.. They have the lever that you need to turn 180 deg to move the internal ring across.
Can't do levers.. but thought about putting a gear on the shaft and turn it with a worm drive / elect motor.......and that's about as far as I got....

[sibainmud]

Thanks Calvin, yeah thought about that too.I now of some 12 volt actators that we used on a water-jet powered bow thrusters. We trashed a couple so might see what i can find. Have to go back and see the guy, he may of thrown them out.

Cheers,

[fullthrottle]

Haven't pulled mine apart yet, but the RUNVA 9500's have that lever you twist 180 degrees from engauged to free spool and back again.

Not sure whats on the internal side of that lever, but joining it to a servo would do the job.

Do you not have a winch wench riding with you? They work well to....if you have earplugs in to avoid the moaning

[fullthrottle]

Oh, modify one of the boat window wiper motors. That should have enough power to twist it. Just need to shut it of at the 0 and 180 degree mark

I like the sound of this challenge.

[sibainmud]

Only problem is when the winch bitch hooking up other end, they have to run back to truck to engage it, and it's not like I'm going to get out and do it!
looking at a competition style of set up

On a lighter note, here's the video of the thrusters I used to install here. The major problem is the PCB mounted to it with the limiting micro switches mounted to may not like swimming. The servo was used to move the diverter valve for port or starboard thrust.


Cheers,

[kbushnz]

The 8274 free spool would be easier to automate... being a pull out push in style... And it would be a better winch than a low mount.
Simple pull push cable....

[fullthrottle]

Only problem is when the winch bitch hooking up other end, they have to run back to truck to engage it, and it's not like I'm going to get out and do it!
looking at a competition style of set up

Aaaaaaa, competition style.
Then you need a faster runner

[sibainmud]

The 8274 free spool would be easier to automate... being a pull out push in style... And it would be a better winch than a low mount.
Simple pull push cable....

Now we are talking. Marine style of push pull cable?

[Drurban]

Only thing I can think of is a big servo like you use in remote control cars as mention in above posts, but it needs to be a real grunter.

[evilknieval69]

I've asked the same question before.

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... =4&t=33586

Interested to see what you come up with, I would still love to do it to mine but haven't put a lot of effort into it yet to be honest.

[QUADRACER]

most winch do not need to turn the 180 deg on the handle, it is just to lock in place.
on my comp suzuki , had both super winch and tiger 11, both had a cable, that just lifted the lever a couple of mmm to release.
the superwinch was a trasmissiopn shit cable, and the tiger was a bike gear shift assy, made by Brett.
liked the bike shifter better.
just make it simple.

[Madaz]

On the warns you can use a push pull cable and use part of a throttle butterfly (the round bit ur throttle cable goes around) welded on the lever to give the turning motion.
On the ep style superwinches, theres a air freespool that you could make for under a $100, using a off the shelf air ram

[churchill]

You can use one of these for 180° rotation. They can also be used for 90° but you can also use a straight cylinder on a lever arm which would be cheaper.

http://www.rotork.com/product/index/rcr

The valve actuators come either air return or spring return, you need to select the control valve appropriately.

All this stuff works of ~6 bar air which is about the same as an air locker.

[pjb]

On my tigerz11 I had in mind to fit a cable wheel (like what's on your throttle body, but a full 180° rather than just 90°), with a spring return (again, just like on a throttle body.
Then I was just going to use an idle-up cable back to the cab.
Spring would return it to normal operation.
A half pull would be free spool. Full pull for high speed (mine is 2-speed).
No electrical bits to seal or wire up.

Like so many other thing, I've never got round to it...

[meatc]

The 8274 free spool would be easier to automate... being a pull out push in style... And it would be a better winch than a low mount.
Simple pull push cable....

Now we are talking. Marine style of push pull cable?

Factory free spool on the 8274 is not that good. If it has been under load the brake locks and you have to power it out to release it, just going into freespool wont. Also your poor coey have to turn all the gearsets over to pull the rope out. There is a way to do a true freespool with just the drum moving, and a simple pull/spring return activation.

I/we have too much time/money invested in disclosing to many details, but can do you one as a bolt in replacement on a drum exchange basis.

[klompy]

I,ve got a spare drum from a buggered winch if you ever need one to do an exchange set up.

[kbushnz]

The 8274 free spool would be easier to automate... being a pull out push in style... And it would be a better winch than a low mount.
Simple pull push cable....

Now we are talking. Marine style of push pull cable?

Factory free spool on the 8274 is not that good. If it has been under load the brake locks and you have to power it out to release it, just going into freespool wont. Also your poor coey have to turn all the gearsets over to pull the rope out. There is a way to do a true freespool with just the drum moving, and a simple pull/spring return activation.

I/we have too much time/money invested in disclosing to many details, but can do you one as a bolt in replacement on a drum exchange basis.

Ahhh now that's interesting to know....

[sibainmud]

Thanks for all the replies guys. Food for thought there, that's for sure. I'm rather intimate with the inner working of the Runva and one would assume most the low mounts are the same with a gear collar the moves in and out to engage or disengage from the planetary gears. This would also mean that you don't have to achieve a full 180 deg and could get away with 170deg meaning a push pull on an arm would be adequate.

Keep 'em rolling.

Cheers,

[meatc]

other thought, the Come Up and another I cant think of, you pull the clutch pin up the twist part is to keep it up. They work by releasing the ring gear to spin rather than sliding it out of the way as per Runva, Ramsey, Warn etc.

[kbushnz]

Have a read thru this one
http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/viewt ... 3&t=113074
or this one
http://forum.innovate4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=2000

[fullthrottle]

Mate, do you want to build a God winch??

The principle is that its basically a drum attached to an old diff head and driven by the PTO.

So to wind it out, slip the transfer into neutral, engage the PTO only, chuck it in reverse and let it rip. I had to put on a slight jog to run out with the cable and keep up with it. But he was just heavy footed

Then slip it into forward gear and re-engage the transfer (if you like) to real the cable back in.

These things are bloody quick and powerful. The only problem is that there is NO braking system on the winch.

All from the seat of your truck.

[LOLYF]

The only problem is that there is NO braking system on the winch.

This one has a brake, In fact it's fully comp legal in NZ.

[sibainmud]

Hold there fulla's, one needs a PTO output first. Not even going down that road yet. As I was standing there when that footage was taken, i can only dream at this stage.
Hard out researching different options. Price is a governing factor.

Cheers,

[LOLYF]

one needs a PTO output first.
Cheers,

Actually I don't believe a PTO output would handle the load of a god winch.

Craig's certainly doesn't run off one and the parts sitting in my garage don't include one either.

[sibainmud]

No room at this stage for another transfer
May be i will have a chat to a gear box man about some adaption

Cheers,

[fullthrottle]

The only problem is that there is NO braking system on the winch.

This one has a brake, In fact it's fully comp legal in NZ.

Sorry to thread jack, but that is great. Even sounds like a fishing reel
Care to share more about it on another thread? I know Dave would be keen

[Sadam_Husain]

Sorry to thread jack, but that is great. Even sounds like a fishing reel
Care to share more about it on another thread? I know Dave would be keen

its already on another thread

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... 49&t=25506

[tycho]

The Gigglepin winches use an air freespool system, may be able to buy the parts to fit a high mount Warn

[klompy]

Saeco sell Linak actuators but they are exspensive.