Blowen 87 series Landcruiser

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Thought it was bout time for an update.. of the sorts.. :lol:
Most have probably worked out Im looking at heading towards an auto by now :roll: and so Ive been pottering around in the garage now for a few days or so :mrgreen:
Started by removing the tail section of the 1UZFE auto I acquired for 50 bucks 8)
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had to grind off the little tit thing as I didnt have a long enough socket, once that was done I unbolted the tail section like so
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Now the fun bit started.. :lol: :lol: I measured, then measured again.. and then took the plunge, as Im not mech or engineer I just got my ol trusty grinder and hey presto.. this fell off :mrgreen:
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Now toyota being toyota.. I thought surely not.. but hey it did, bolted this on..
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As you can see from the pic the coupler is sticking out a wee bit far.. so out with the grinder again as I dont have a lathe.. :shock:
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and then slipped it on, worked out great, I then had a spare casing floating around so just for mockup bolted that on
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then started to assemble the xfer as normal
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Now I have a small problem but not huge as I can just get my grinder out again to fix it.. :mrgreen: But the output gear is sticking out too far, not engaging the gear as a whole so.. If anyone has one the measures around 10-13 mm on the seal side , can I grab it? :mrgreen:
Here is the pic
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The rest seemed to bolt up nicely so Im going to go with that.. Not going to just yet as all the good bits are on the truck now..
There is a bit of play in the output shaft bearing and apparently I need a shim or too.. ?? 2.32mm I think( if anyone has a spare of those?) as it will stop the in out difference and make things seat nicely..
Next thing to do is take the pump out of the auto and physically check if I can swap some gears over from another box I have :roll: to make it better for offroad.. Only way I can work this bit out is by stripping both boxs :cry: and Im not looking forward to that.. :lol:
The PTO side of things should work out bloody good as it's all bolt on..
I may need to make my front driveshaft longer and the rear shorter but havent measured any of that yet.. so you know.. little steps.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Thats it for now..
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Now once I did all of that.. I had to retro the sensor from the old tail section to the new one :shock: .. how the fark was I going to do this.. I pondered this for a few days looking for imspiration.. and then It came to me.. :mrgreen: I filed a little area to make it flat next to the old sensor as this was the most logical place for it..and then drilled a hole to suit it.. like so
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Had to make sure the 4 pronged sensor pickup was where it should have been, you can just make out the shiney bit..
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You can see the old and new holes for the sensors here and I'll be filling one up with some durafix as it was cheap enough..
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I'll put a new o ring on the sensor when it gets installd last time.. so that side is going to work great now too.. fingures crossed.. :mrgreen:
I did all the work using either my battery drill or the grinder.. to save some coin.. :lol: :lol: I know it should have been done on lathes and in a drill press but I thought fk it.. I can do that.. :mrgreen: works a treat..

Also need to mod valve body etc.. anyone have info about that?

IUm trying to keep as much of the wiring and ecu side of things so the tranny works seemlessly really.. if someone has some really cool mods to make, then hola..

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Oh I'll be cleaning the trans down once I've finished as I know they need to be treated like ya women.. :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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make sure you drill and tap the hole in the bottom of the trasnfer adaptor into the gearbox, leak like a sive once the powers applied if you dont apparently...
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skidmark wrote:make sure you drill and tap the hole in the bottom of the trasnfer adaptor into the gearbox, leak like a sive once the powers applied if you dont apparently...

Yip will get to that once I get the right tap.. but cheers for the reminder.. :wink:
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this beast is looking 8)
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also make sure the sensor doesn't hit the 4 prongs - i had to space mine a little so wouldn't touch. im guessing your gonna run the auto ecu to control the box seen your keeping the sensor?

Yeah the 9inch grinder makes short work of the output shaft but my trick to start grinder was, start grinder - reset tripped circuit breaker while grinder still spining while holding trigger and away the grinder went. the bloody grinder drawed more than the 160a welder on start up and kept tripping garage :twisted:
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kzj78 gear measures 15mm on the seal surface, you might have to pay for some machining after getting away with that grinding :lol:
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d_b wrote:kzj78 gear measures 15mm on the seal surface, you might have to pay for some machining after getting away with that grinding :lol:

Ha.. my grinder is awesome.. :lol: but yes I might have to have this bit lathed so it's perfect.. :roll: :mrgreen:
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Ok update time.. :shock: Been playing with the autoz... :roll: sooo many bits.. :lol: :lol:
anyway pulled the lexus one to bits.. just for shits and giggles.. :mrgreen:
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and the donor box.. :?: not going to say.. :mrgreen: Soo many bits.. :shock:
anyway thought they looked like it was going to be a straight swap of the gears etc.. so it will be shorter geared as the lex auto is reasonably close geared and same as the LJ71/78 but with shorter xfer gears.. sooo I thought if I can get lower gearing in the auto it'll help overall.. and you know. I can :shock:
Here are some differences between the lexuz and donor..
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Lexus
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and side by side
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sooo this raises some questions about the brain going to run it.. :?: simple solution there.. swap the internals into the lexuz box and keep all the sensors from the lexus so the ecu running it wont know what Ive done and it'll just do it's thing.. :wink:
Soo I need a gasket set for the 30-41LE and I think I'm going to get the kit that kbushnz got to spice things up a little.. Also have spoken the a trans company up north and ran what I was doing past them and they said.. sweet as.. send up the bits and we'll sort it.. :twisted:
So I get a lower geared tranny.. bullet proof torque convertor and all runs on factory ecu.. 8) legend..
I'll be sorting out some manualisation when I get it all together..
Here are some pics of the auto in bits for ya die hard pic fans :roll:
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and this one is the unit together when all the bits swapped bit missing one sensor ring.. but that will just get zipped on there when Im ready :mrgreen: you can see the main shaft in the pic on the right..next to donor shaft.. 10 points to who guess's what it is..lol
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Ill keep ya'll posted when I do more.. but things are coming along nicely..
Cheers K

Oh and I know.. not ideal space to be farking around with an auto.. :mrgreen: but you get that.. :wink:
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good thing mitsy used the same trans aye!!!!
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evyauto wrote:good thing mitsy used the same trans aye!!!!

shsshhh dont let the cat out of the bag..lol :roll: :roll: :roll: sigh.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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well update time.. nothing regardiung the auto thingy.. :lol: :lol: But took the ole girl out for a treat at Motatapu.. was awesome yet again
anyway.. on the way.. :roll: had a little problem.. Pic to come.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: as someone else has that.. :wink:
Anyway the resulting damage was this, the rest of the bits are somewhere on the macetown track :lol: :lol:
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Now being a wee bit lazy as Im working to hard.. :roll: :lol: :lol: I took the front hub to bits tonight.. and im like. o dear.. :shock: :shock:
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Soo this raises another question.. can I get this hellicoiled or is it fubar :?:
and if fubar,, :lol: anyone got a spare..lol
3 out of the 4 holes have 1/2 the threads missing.. :shock: :lol:
Thats it.. :wink: :mrgreen:
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Drill it out and tap to bigger studs. :mrgreen:

*cough* six shooters *cough*
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Hi, yes can Helicoil or Recoil, will be stronger than original.
Can't remember what front end you have as I am typing this ?

EDIT Just checked, 80 Series ??, no spares sorry

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niblik wrote:Drill it out and tap to bigger studs. :mrgreen:

*cough* six shooters *cough*

interesting thought :twisted: .. but I dont think anyone here has them :?:


Bugger..

Great that I can re drill em.. so I'll fix these so they stop falling out.. :shock: :lol: :lol: thats the second time this has happened.. :roll: :mrgreen:
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Big wrote:Great that I can re drill em.. so I'll fix these so they stop falling out.. :shock: :lol: :lol: thats the second time this has happened.. :roll: :mrgreen:



its a known toyo problem both of my trucks have had problems them, winding the studs right down nice and tight with loctite seems to keep them in
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[/quote]*cough* six shooters *cough*
interesting thought :twisted: .. but I dont think anyone here has them :?: [/quote]


Suzolla has them in stock and cheap as chips!
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... ix+shooter
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They need to suit 80 series diffs
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rob-mu wrote:
*cough* six shooters *cough*
interesting thought :twisted: .. but I dont think anyone here has them :?: [/quote]


Suzolla has them in stock and cheap as chips!
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... ix+shooter[/quote]
already asked if they fit.. but alas not.. :cry:
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Whoops that's right !
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could do the 5th bolt mod. Nibs or Rok you guys have done this mod?
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Yep I have done a 5th stud. Works a treat. The std 4 studs were total shit with 40" boots. I read somewhere that the 5th stud made the whole setup about 40% stronger.
I also replaced all my studs with cap screws that have been wound in from the inside of the hub.
Did a write up on it, but don't know what happened to it and can't be bothered trying to find it on here amongst the never ending bullshit that seems to get posted.
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I even put the ARP studs in mine, still comes loose...... 4 studs just aint enough :lol:
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Madaz wrote:I even put the ARP studs in mine, still comes loose...... 4 studs just aint enough :lol:

lol.. guess I have to put my thinking cap on and come up the a plan.. :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
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Big wrote:
Madaz wrote:I even put the ARP studs in mine, still comes loose...... 4 studs just aint enough :lol:

lol.. guess I have to put my thinking cap on and come up the a plan.. :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:



you can drill and dowel the arm to stop it twisting and loosening the studs, not quite my idea its what jafa told me to do when I was having problems with them :D
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That's what I will do also,don't come loose that offer, but always checking them.
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I forgot, yep did that too. Square dowel, cap screws through from inside the hub and 5th stud. It works.
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Not meaning to thread jack, but we had the same issue with our studs coming loose, and a few months ago we broke them all off and lost steering,
So I took the parts to work and cut 8mm key ways, should give it more strength as its not just driving off the studs.

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Cool idea! ...I might have to borrow that one :wink:
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