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Hi

Im about to rebuild my front knuckles, replace wheel bearings, rotors and wheel studs. Its a kzj78 front axle.

Where is the best places to buy each of these things in christchurch? and rough prices?

Does anyone have a link to the torque settings for the wheel bearings and kingpin bearings and the correct resistance for the scale pull tests for knuckle and wheel bearings?

Thanks John
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BNT except for kingpin bearings and axel seals go to toyota for those :wink:
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I got a kit from BNT ..sorry cant remember the price.
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Will bnt screw me for price though, seen I don't have an account there? and do the sell the knuckle stuff as a kit? and wheel bearings as kits?
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Rotors from Import Parts.
Why are you replacing the wheel studs?

I got my knuckle kit from South Island Bearing Supplies. It does not have the shims in it. Looking at other kits later, it seems that The Terrain Tamer ones are good. They do have shims. They also use Koyo bearings, same as Toyota.
Old Blue suggested I replace the cv shaft seals inside the spindles. Important these are done if still using the electric FWHs. I got these seals from Toyota. The bronze bushes immediately inboard of these are shorter in length than the normal non electric FWH ones. Toyota wanted $256 ea for these! Good place to get the Toyota part numbers is toyoDIY. Google the part numbers (xxxxx-xxxxx) and often you can get the part description and dimensions etc.
If you look on my Front axle rebuild thread you will see a link that Jafa put up to his rebuild thread on Pirate. Has the swivel pull lbs force requirements there. It is for a Hilux, however I think the steering arms are a similar length, thus giving you the same torque figure.
One thing a lot of people don't know. When setting up taper roller bearings it is very important to keep spinning the assembly to settle the rollers onto the races. If you don't do this the bearings will quickly become loose.
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IcedJohnno wrote:Rotors from Import Parts.
Why are you replacing the wheel studs?

I got my knuckle kit from South Island Bearing Supplies. It does not have the shims in it. Looking at other kits later, it seems that The Terrain Tamer ones are good. They do have shims. They also use Koyo bearings, same as Toyota.
Old Blue suggested I replace the cv shaft seals inside the spindles. Important these are done if still using the electric FWHs. I got these seals from Toyota. The bronze bushes immediately inboard of these are shorter in length than the normal non electric FWH ones. Toyota wanted $256 ea for these! Good place to get the Toyota part numbers is toyoDIY. Google the part numbers (xxxxx-xxxxx) and often you can get the part description and dimensions etc.
If you look on my Front axle rebuild thread you will see a link that Jafa put up to his rebuild thread on Pirate. Has the swivel pull lbs force requirements there. It is for a Hilux, however I think the steering arms are a similar length, thus giving you the same torque figure.
One thing a lot of people don't know. When setting up taper roller bearings it is very important to keep spinning the assembly to settle the rollers onto the races. If you don't do this the bearings will quickly become loose.


cheers for ya help. will track down your thread. yeah i been reading up on a lot of things and know about spinning the hub lots of time to set rollers. yeah i running the electric hubs bout are converted to manual. i am having trouble finding the settings online for torque etc. haynes dont if do a manual for the kzj78 prado from what i've researched. re the wheel studs well a couple are stripped from day dot when i got the sas done. (never going back to that workshop again) this "shop" supplied everything for the sas swap including seized calipers, stripped wheel studs, different ratio diff etc. so basically i want to get everything sweet in the front end so i have no more surprises from it.
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Download a manual for the LJ70 /KZJ70 or similar..
Running gear is all the same.... so same settings...
I use one for a KZJ70

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http://daemon4x4.org/portal/downloads.php?ttid=218
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guy on trade me, bts taranaki does a kit. pretty reasonable price. didnt actually use his bearings as all ready had bought genuine, but pretty sure his jap made too. will have a look. i run hilux hubs and stubs, so it means i have to buy 2 kits to do the whole job. should have just gone the old blue route. haha.
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kbushnz wrote:Download a manual for the LJ70 /KZJ70 or similar..
Running gear is all the same.... so same settings...
I use one for a KZJ70

Link
http://daemon4x4.org/portal/downloads.php?ttid=218


cheers heaps just downloaded it
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micahb wrote:guy on trade me, bts taranaki does a kit. pretty reasonable price. didnt actually use his bearings as all ready had bought genuine, but pretty sure his jap made too. will have a look. i run hilux hubs and stubs, so it means i have to buy 2 kits to do the whole job. should have just gone the old blue route. haha.


yeah i been looking at that kit on trademe. seems good price but hopefully quality is good. how long you been this kit for? any issues?
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not long, a month or so. but driven near 100k daily. compared it to a couple old kits i have sitting around for my old vehicles, nothing seems cheap or compromised. got quite a work out today towing out firewood from the back of my place. no issues with anything. just make sure, that if it says shims on the ad, he farken puts them in the pack!!! he didnt with mine, offered to send me some, but needed them before he could get them to me.
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Ring Don Kyatt (terrain tamer) - 09 263 6021 - they have all the bits you need, and can deliver to your door.
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Just checked. Trade Me guy is BTS Taranaki for that bearing kit and its $79. Good luck
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I got my terain tamer kit from lineside believe it or not and it was about $140 from memory. I was supprised at how cheap it was. Wheel bearings I get from wilson brothers but I do get trade there but we could organise something and discs from bnt which is the same deal. Let me know and we can organise something. Can help you do it as well.

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cheers for your help guys.

jammysammy ill see what prices retail are first and then go from there. thanks for the offer though
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Fully recommend the tripple lip inner axle seals that suzolla sells, they are the only ones if had in that have never leaked, worth every cent
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jeremy wrote:Ring Don Kyatt (terrain tamer) - 09 263 6021 - they have all the bits you need, and can deliver to your door.

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Madaz wrote:Fully recommend the tripple lip inner axle seals that suzolla sells, they are the only ones if had in that have never leaked, worth every cent



Shame that they fit the Hilux axle and not the Prado.
Hilux is diameter and face mount. Prado only diameter mount.
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cheers guys for all ya help. havent had a chance to get prices other than websites - so busy at work at moment and trying to find time to get into shops.
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just got swivel hub kit and 2x wheel bearing sets to rebuild my new front diff from don kyatt,cost $261.40
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muddyhilux wrote:just got swivel hub kit and 2x wheel bearing sets to rebuild my new front diff from don kyatt,cost $261.40


Cheers muddyhilux, will call him when i get a chance. guessing that price including gst too?
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yeah mate,did indeed
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