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Good morning,

Sometimes I get a voice at the back of my head and it says things like "come on then wise guy, walk your talk. Put your money where your mouth is." Seems good logic but then it chimes in with other things like "but don't actually put cash in your mouth.Imagine how many hands it changed, Its full of germs and trace amounts of other people gross DNA. Oh and by the way, you have lunch with the President of Mexico next Tuesday at 2." So, I listen to most of it, but I havent booked flights for Mexico yet.

My older brother who lives in ChCh mentioned purchasing a Series LR as a business promo vehicle.

When I hard about this I was like an ADD child who just took their whole weeks worth of his Prozac on empty stomach in one gulp, waited about 45 minutes and then had about 2 litres of Pepsi. Imagine the crazed combination of euphoria/confusion/nausea/akathisia - that's what I was like - dancing on the line of insanity. They lock people up for that of shit.

It had to be something tolerable on road, 'comfortable' even. Hello ex-Australian Army 'Skippy.'

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He knows what he's getting himself into. Here is a brief summary: Age 7 in the early 90s parents were early owners of NZ Nomad Safaris in Queenstown. Introduced to offroad exploration and mechanics/LR then. Arrow River/Shotover every day. All Rovers leak - cute but if its losing oil, waters going in. Learnt much workshop procedures/wrenching while learning maintenance (a lot).. Intdoctrinated from young age.Initial fleet 2x LR 110 V8 & 1x Stage One. Parents sold business to single entrepreneurs who grew it, damn children :(. Moved to ChCh, RRC & Series 3 full rebuild, CLROC etc. Certainly pretty privileged young people at that time. Of course the Father took off (bout 13 years ago). But the sad part is there has been no Rover since then :lol: :lol: (coping method??!)

I Got a SWB MK Patrol and was like a limousine in comparsion. If I had more coffee I Could easily go into another rant about these vehicles and how underrated they are (and well behaved when climbing), but I digress. But LR and MK side by side made me curious. How could be so different (better?!) yet they both use the same basic platform of body on frame with slung under leafs.So I went on to study their engineering heavily, moved onto working on Japanese/American machines. Not that I put Japanese and American engineering in the same ballpark. Not even close. But British and American engineering, definate similarities there. But again, I digress.

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The vehicle is in active use with current WOF and typical fanatic owner. Rover 3.5 diffs, soft springs/shocks, very rare albeit sloppy SIIA full synchro box (considered the best Series box they ever made). LWB brakes w/ aftermarket servo. Cert for everything. The purpose of the vehicle is to be (reliable), relatively comfortable on road and economical, and character/feelgood consumer value. If it was mine, I would put FJ40/MK Patrol axles + lockers and be done with it. But surely For this purpose, the standard diffs and axles will be adequate, at least for a while..
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Front bumper has been replaced with when they did the front crossmember rust by the look of it. Meh, Thats cool. Lots of military extras, shackle lift, rear bumperettes and light protectors etc I think that roll bar is from a 109 V8.

Nissan LD28 factory turbo :shock:
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With the tall gearing this puppy will do a safe 90km/h at barely idle and return about a million miles per gallon. IMO the LD28 is one of the greatest passenger car diesel engines ever made. It is wonderful in its design, construction and operation and very suited to a Series LR. Its revvy, OHC easy to service and refined and makes just enough power to keep the (Series IIA) gearbox happy & reliable. Theres a (slow) visible water leak from the head. This could just head bolt torque. Otherwise there is a new head included which will go straight on.

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The first jobs - usual checks then fix cooling issue. Swap gearbox with reconditioned one that is included. Then pull all those bars off and do a Stage One V8 front end conversion, because it is the sexiest front end they ever did. Then pull the galv. trim pieces off, thorough prep and do a simple but high quality repaint with DuPont Acrylic Lacquer in the original Army colour. So I am looking for these parts if anyone can help - ex Army 109 owners?? Stage One V8 grille panel, wire grille & bonnet, and some Series 3 guards (will they fit with some minor drilling?) Straight but any colour. Also a larger radiator so the viscous fan can go back on the engine. One of those TDI ones with intercooler would be ideal.

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Also will have quite a big stockpile of Series parts. Spare LD28 (I'm keeping the crank), injector pumps, starter/alt, internals, dshafts, electrics, gearbox with rebuild parts incl synchros, hubs, lots of stuff. More info to come
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8)

The wife has put my relapse on pause :-(

although if we had the money she says she would prefer a 110 to the people carrier she has now
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I share your sickness my friend :D

Nice Landy, sorry I can't help with the parts you need. I'm sure others will be able to......

My 1964 S2a LWB ex-NZ army is coming along well too. Just been painting it actually. Deep bronze green enamel from Wynn Frazer seems to be the right shade for an ex-mil job.

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that's awesome!
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lax2wlg wrote:Good morning,

Sometimes I get a voice at the back of my head and it says things like "come on then wise guy, walk your talk. Put your money where your mouth is." Seems good logic but then it chimes in with other things like "but don't actually put cash in your mouth.Imagine how many hands it changed, Its full of germs and trace amounts of other people gross DNA. Oh and by the way, you have lunch with the President of Mexico next Tuesday at 2." So, I listen to most of it, but I havent booked flights for Mexico yet.

My older brother who lives in ChCh mentioned purchasing a Series LR as a business promo vehicle.

When I hard about this I was like an ADD child who just took their whole weeks worth of his Prozac on empty stomach in one gulp, waited about 45 minutes and then had about 2 litres of Pepsi. Imagine the crazed combination of euphoria/confusion/nausea/akathisia - that's what I was like - dancing on the line of insanity. They lock people up for that of shit.

It had to be something tolerable on road, 'comfortable' even. Hello ex-Australian Army 'Skippy.'

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He knows what he's getting himself into. Here is a brief summary: Age 7 in the early 90s parents were early owners of NZ Nomad Safaris in Queenstown. Introduced to offroad exploration and mechanics/LR then. Arrow River/Shotover every day. All Rovers leak - cute but if its losing oil, waters going in. Learnt much workshop procedures/wrenching while learning maintenance (a lot).. Intdoctrinated from young age.Initial fleet 2x LR 110 V8 & 1x Stage One. Parents sold business to single entrepreneurs who grew it, damn children :(. Moved to ChCh, RRC & Series 3 full rebuild, CLROC etc. Certainly pretty privileged young people at that time. Of course the Father took off (bout 13 years ago). But the sad part is there has been no Rover since then :lol: :lol: (coping method??!)

I Got a SWB MK Patrol and was like a limousine in comparsion. If I had more coffee I Could easily go into another rant about these vehicles and how underrated they are (and well behaved when climbing), but I digress. But LR and MK side by side made me curious. How could be so different (better?!) yet they both use the same basic platform of body on frame with slung under leafs.So I went on to study their engineering heavily, moved onto working on Japanese/American machines. Not that I put Japanese and American engineering in the same ballpark. Not even close. But British and American engineering, definate similarities there. But again, I digress.

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The vehicle is in active use with current WOF and typical fanatic owner. Rover 3.5 diffs, soft springs/shocks, very rare albeit sloppy SIIA full synchro box (considered the best Series box they ever made). LWB brakes w/ aftermarket servo. Cert for everything. The purpose of the vehicle is to be (reliable), relatively comfortable on road and economical, and character/feelgood consumer value. If it was mine, I would put FJ40/MK Patrol axles + lockers and be done with it. But surely For this purpose, the standard diffs and axles will be adequate, at least for a while..
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Front bumper has been replaced with when they did the front crossmember rust by the look of it. Meh, Thats cool. Lots of military extras, shackle lift, rear bumperettes and light protectors etc I think that roll bar is from a 109 V8.

Nissan LD28 factory turbo :shock:
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With the tall gearing this puppy will do a safe 90km/h at barely idle and return about a million miles per gallon. IMO the LD28 is one of the greatest passenger car diesel engines ever made. It is wonderful in its design, construction and operation and very suited to a Series LR. Its revvy, OHC easy to service and refined and makes just enough power to keep the (Series IIA) gearbox happy & reliable. Theres a (slow) visible water leak from the head. This could just head bolt torque. Otherwise there is a new head included which will go straight on.

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The first jobs - usual checks then fix cooling issue. Swap gearbox with reconditioned one that is included. Then pull all those bars off and do a Stage One V8 front end conversion, because it is the sexiest front end they ever did. Then pull the galv. trim pieces off, thorough prep and do a simple but high quality repaint with DuPont Acrylic Lacquer in the original Army colour. So I am looking for these parts if anyone can help - ex Army 109 owners?? Stage One V8 grille panel, wire grille & bonnet, and some Series 3 guards (will they fit with some minor drilling?) Straight but any colour. Also a larger radiator so the viscous fan can go back on the engine. One of those TDI ones with intercooler would be ideal.

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Also will have quite a big stockpile of Series parts. Spare LD28 (I'm keeping the crank), injector pumps, starter/alt, internals, dshafts, electrics, gearbox with rebuild parts incl synchros, hubs, lots of stuff. More info to come

good to see another skippy around...i have got one that i have had for 23 years i stripped it back to the chassis in 95 and repowered it with a 3.3 commy motor...hasn't been on the road for a few years now but still in the system just use it for a play now and then
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Alllright I picked it up and its good.

First things first - gearbox swap.
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New box is a reconditioned Suffix D box which apparently is considered the strongest of all Series boxes.
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I filled it up with Moreys and Oil and its gooooood.

There is work to do. This puppy has been loved, but by the type of person who sees brush painting as a good option
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Its not getting a bare metal treatment like the Pathfinder but its going to get a really good treatment. None of this painting over galvanised trim!
For a laugh, I may paint it Toyota Army green:
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Now the engine... is mint. Strong compression test results, makes great power, starts easy wheen cold, no oil in water or vice versa. But the PO reported a visible water leak... it had an old Series 3 radiator and a 1960s Smiths heater with a mile of hoses. Traced it down to radiator leak causing air in cooling system and periodic loss of small amounts of coolant from overflow. I tried with a replacement radiator and proper bleed, all good. When I picked it up, the truck had been sitting and was smoky.
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There was almost 12 feet of intake tubing (including the snorkel which is now gone). So I removed that, Re-torqued head bolts, adjust valves, drain old fuel. I bypassed the twin tank system and installed new fuel lines directly from main tank to filter, then to pump. Apparently the vehicle hasn't had much action for a few years, so I gave her a dose of Seafoam in the crankcase, fuel tank and intake, then hot soak. Burn it all off, new oil & filters.
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Now it runs really good. I've fired it up and run it for the last 7 days in a row after sitting for 12+ hours and there doesnt appear to be any oil consumption. All I think the engine needs is new radiator with thermostatic fan & an afterglow system, and some gauges. And a simple intercooler would be nice.

I have also cut of all the old junk out in preparation for the new panels. Here is where they repaired the front bumper mount rust etc and also notched the crossmember to fit the original Series radiator. Image
I've located this front end in Dunedin:
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They're not mint mint but its so hard to find a 90/110 style bonnet and you have to work with what you have. The next phase will be locating and plumbing the new radiator panel, getting the guards to fit, then paint/panel. The interior will get a carpet/soundproofing treatment and for the back tub I'm thinking a Rhinoliner type product. Good times with the Landy.
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New front end mocked into position
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Much more modern
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Minor trim to the radiator panel to accommodate the new front bumper
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This has created lots of space for a new larger radiator/elec fan
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Some minor repairs needed for the bonnet frame, but otherwise its pretty straight
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Next to find a radiator and get it tacked in, then remove all the front panels to prepare the whole vehicle for paint.
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WHY?????? 2a's have the coolest fronts and leaves heaps of room for a winch. Now it just looks like every other huckery rover with a non standard stage 1 front fitted :cry:
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turoa wrote:WHY??????

Why not?? Plus it was cramped as hell in there and was not functional.
You don't think this is ugly?!

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Now it just looks like every other huckery rover with a non standard stage 1 front fitted :cry:


If by huckery you mean ugly, then thanks, I dont know what to say to you. But yes its definately not a standard Series LR, it wouldnt work for the intended purpose if it was. Those photos are a trial fit to get the panels all in position... wait till the paint is done, I think this will be the final color choice, 6H9 Greyish Olive
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lax2wlg wrote:
turoa wrote:WHY??????

Why not?? Plus it was cramped as hell in there and was not functional.
You don't think this is ugly?!

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Well I love classic Rovers but your right - thats just plain ugly!!!

Mine however ......... looks sweet (my opinion)

BTW - colour is from Wynn Frazer - Deep Bronze Green :D
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^^^Hell yeah that looks great.
Nothing against the SIIA front end, its just that this particular vehicle was pretty messy with the cut Skippy guards etc..
Its a tough decision w the colour, ultimately my brothers choice but sh** that Deep Bronze Green is hard to beat. Is that just a good old single part enamel?
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totally agree that early fronts are sweet, but this looks choice as too. Love the progress!
probably the best part is you can enjoy the advantages of the later front (easier to package all your running gear in etc) without having a saggy_arse_in_spandex style late vinyl poos dash.

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awesome post!

Never did like turoas ugly front end, my straight one is easier on the eye so I'm in agreement as well :mrgreen:
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mike wrote:awesome post!

Never did like turoas ugly front end, my straight one is easier on the eye so I'm in agreement as well :mrgreen:


Na skippy fronts are the best :mrgreen:
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mike wrote:awesome post!

Never did like turoas ugly front end, my straight one is easier on the eye so I'm in agreement as well :mrgreen:


Have to agree I prefer the newer look front ends
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lax2wlg wrote:^^^Hell yeah that looks great.
Nothing against the SIIA front end, its just that this particular vehicle was pretty messy with the cut Skippy guards etc..
Its a tough decision w the colour, ultimately my brothers choice but sh** that Deep Bronze Green is hard to beat. Is that just a good old single part enamel?


Thanks :)

Yep single part spray enamel. Wynn code BS-C-224.
It was the closest match colour wise to the mil paint just a little bit shiner lol
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mike wrote: my straight one is easier on the eye so I'm in agreement as well :mrgreen:


Then that settles it... Stage One straight front it is. But Turoa I still have the old Skippy guards, you're welcome to buy them from me, proceeds will go straight back into the LR :)

So I started on the paint prep. First stage was buy some strippers, one Asian, one Swedish, joking joking. Paint stripper.
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As you all know they painted right over the galvanized body cappings on the Army LRs. On this vehicle the PO had also painted all the hoodsticks numerous times by brush.
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IMO the galvanized trim is a classic Series feature. The only way to do this properly is chemical stripper and wire wheel wire soft bronze brush.
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I'm going to lose the light guards and porkpie lights and upgrade it to Defender type rear lights which I notice can be purchased for $20 each on trademe.
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Its very time consuming and messy but best to get this out of the way before prepping the actual body panels.
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Also I scored a massive radiator from a V6 Mitsubishi w/ two built in fans. It looks like its going to slot in nicely, the bottom outlet is on the same side as the LR one. Photos to come, I'll just get this paint stripper out of my hair and eyes.
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Now the galvanized trim is all complete and a lot more prep has been done.

Its pretty much going to be a bare metal job...
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The 109 V8 panels needed some repairs and the rest of the truck was painted with Crayola. IMO there is nothing worse in the world than a cheap looking paint job, so I turned my ADD switch into hyperdrive.
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The firewall has been repaired in a couple of places, prepped and primed
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At this point, I'm about 3/4 way through etch priming the rest of the panels
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Reconditioned front end items
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This Mitsubishi V6 radiator is perfect size for the grille panel
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Ahh.. a Toyota coloured Nissan and a Nissan powered Toyota coloured Land Rover.
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Need to paint the doors and tailgate today, otherwise all the top coat is on and its ready to be coloursanded. So the bulk of the painting work is out the way which is a relief.
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I used Dulon acrylic lacquer for that classic period look.
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You spray on about 5 coats total, increading the thinner each time so by the end of it, you're mostly just spraying on thinner.
Once it dries, you use 1500-2000 grit paper to literally 'hand finish' the paint. ie give the landy a handjob
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The bumpers were cleaned up with wire wheel and sprayed with flat black zinc.
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The rear bulkhead/cargo area was a real mess
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So it was roughened up, etched, cleaned thoroughly then...
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Its a spray in bedliner that creates a textured, chip resistant finish. Very durable and loooks great if you prep it right.
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If you are going to change tail lights change them to led trailer units and save your self wof hassells in the future . the rover bulb holders are all crap and they leak mud and water .Twiggs out the hutt have hella trailer units with 9mt leads multi volt for about 100 a set you just have change flasher unit to suit.
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lokrite wrote:If you are going to change tail lights change them to led trailer units and save your self wof hassells in the future . the rover bulb holders are all crap and they leak mud and water .Twiggs out the hutt have hella trailer units with 9mt leads multi volt for about 100 a set you just have change flasher unit to suit.


Cheers I checked it out, only seem to have a rectangle-shaped one?
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Have a look around some places that do truck lighting, you will be amazed at what you can get in LEDs these days
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LED def the way forward. Parts supplier tried taking me for a ride with a full set of the Defender style ones so I just put the originals back in. When I was reinstalling I realized.. maybe one of those little T-whatever LED dash light things could be soldered in there.. so might try this. IMO the LR housings are pretty watertight if your careful getting a good seal between the lens and the rubber piece, often the rubber piece distorts during install.

The exterior renovation is almost complete. Need to get a decent lockable passenger door handle, and also some seals/pins for the vents. And thats the front diff breather & seatbelt hanging on the landing pad.

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Olive drab canvas is near new
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The tyres/rims were on the vehicle when purchased. I just rotated them and painted the 15x8" rims black. 31x10.5 BFG Trail on rear, 235/70 Hankook something on front.
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The headlights are some sort of sealed beam aftermarket item that were in the original SIIA breakfast panel, so have been reused in the new wings.
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Looks cool .u done a mint job on the paint
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Nice, that was a pretty quick turn around as well.
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Thx for the feedback guys... in fact I think Reggie looks mean dressed in Ninja green. And custom paint adds serious horsepower to any vehicle.

Shame the tyres arent taller to balance out the shackle lift.
To be honest I'm not too crazy about the SWB shackle lift idea
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shackle lifts are a bit frightening. what's it do to your driveline angles?
looking good! quick turnaround too! I wish I had your motivation. :lol:
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Looks good :P . Is it sitting slightly higher on the passenger side? Appears that way in some of the pics
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Hey Nath... cheers yeah possibly, will need to check the panel alignment again, you know LRs are pretty user friendly like that, just loosen a couple of bolts and push the passenger side guard down slightly...

Cam the driveshaft angles aren't too bad but not ideal in my opinion.. plus it makes the ride a bit choppy (choppier), looks like you could go back to standard shackles if you wanted to, the best setup not requiring fabrication would be standard shackles + parabolic springs + of course locking differentials.

I say this mainly because I am a mechanic, not a fabricator :lol: :lol:
Might need to take it to Tom's Offroad & Customs for a tricked out suspension system design
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