I need a Safari SWB, be great if it's set up for off-road. I am in Queenstown area. Cash buyer up to $10k for a goodie.
Ph Colin 021 1524 557.
I want to buy a SWB Safari
Moderator: Mark
IMHO,you wanna be carefull buying one already set up. You can buy a standard one with low K's for a whole lot cheaper than 10K and then you can set it up how you want and know that its got plenty of offroad K's left in it.
Buying one set up already can often mean someone else has already had the joy of its best off road years, and thats why they are flicking it
Buying one set up already can often mean someone else has already had the joy of its best off road years, and thats why they are flicking it
Last edited by DieselBoy on Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
Yep, looked at plenty of ready set up trucks, and i wouldn't touched any of them. Knackered bushes, bent stuff underneath, worn out suspension etc etc.
The best buys are always the straight standard ones, then you know its all good underneath,and can put the good stuff onto it
The best buys are always the straight standard ones, then you know its all good underneath,and can put the good stuff onto it
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
you can save thousands by buying one already to go, mods are not cheap, $4000 for a turbo, $3000 for airlockers front and back etc, i reckon go for one already done, just check it over first, theres a good one on trademe with a turbo and intercooler, he claims the mods cost 7grand. hes asking 10 grand.
Great, so you would be buying a Turbo and Airlockers??? Not much point if the rest of it is shagged co's its already been used and abused offroad and you gotta spend another couple of K getting up to scratch
Or it may be a bloody good score!!!!!
All i am saying, IMHO, that you need to be far more carefull when buying a vehicle thats already set up and has done a fair bit of offroad work, compared to a standard spec vehicle.
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
id say be careful of low km safaris, most of them have done way more kms than the speedo says, if i was to do mine over again i would go for one already done, i have done mine on the cheap and its still cost me 15 grand money ill never get back when i sell, look around theres a few about now,
they are quite common on the roads.
my plan was to build a winch challenge truck, now im going to wait 2 years learn what i can then buy one already done.
they are quite common on the roads.
my plan was to build a winch challenge truck, now im going to wait 2 years learn what i can then buy one already done.
theres on trademe
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... key=358922
I just got a offroad virgon GQ for $3000, sold the road tyres for 1000 so now i have a 2grand truck with a winch. Slap on my old muds add a 50$ body lift and away laughing...
so i reckon buy a nice standard on first.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... key=358922
I just got a offroad virgon GQ for $3000, sold the road tyres for 1000 so now i have a 2grand truck with a winch. Slap on my old muds add a 50$ body lift and away laughing...
so i reckon buy a nice standard on first.
Some questions you might want to consider asking if you give the guys a ring about their trucks:
How was the lift done??
How long ago??
Who did it??
What brand springs?
What rate springs??(to heavy=chassis and body stress)
What brand shocks??
What type of shocks??
Have the bump stops been relocated?? (if not shocks are likly knackered)
How long have the springs and shocks been in the vehicle??
How has the driveline angles been corrected??
Have T.Case packers been used??
If so what are the engine mounts looking like??
Or have adjustable arms been used??
Who set the arms up??
Are they set up evenly??
Does it have adjustable panhard rods??
If not what are the rear radious arm bushes looking like?? (knackered probably)
Has the caster angle been corrected??
Have the break lines been lengthened??
what state are the rear UJ's in after running for XXXk's at the high angles??
What are the bodylift blocks made from??
who did the body lift??
What as done to get the shifters to work??
what size and graxe bolts were used??
What was done with the rear two body mount bolts??
Was the radioator relocated??
Were the fuel hoses lengthened??
Was the fuel filler hose extended??
was the fan shroud modified??
Fark, the list goes on with a pre-modded truck. Just be mindfull of the above things when your looking for pre loved safari. It can all end up more expensive in the long run, as you repair and replace someone elses mistakes plus the other generalwear and tear on the vehicle.
With a standard one, look at the state of the body mounts (doesn't matter if your doing a body lift), look at the suspension bushes, the left hand engine mount, tappet noise, oil pressure, compression and rust around the roof and windscreen and injector pump leaks. Otherwise if the general condition suits the money they want, then your pretty well right
How was the lift done??
How long ago??
Who did it??
What brand springs?
What rate springs??(to heavy=chassis and body stress)
What brand shocks??
What type of shocks??
Have the bump stops been relocated?? (if not shocks are likly knackered)
How long have the springs and shocks been in the vehicle??
How has the driveline angles been corrected??
Have T.Case packers been used??
If so what are the engine mounts looking like??
Or have adjustable arms been used??
Who set the arms up??
Are they set up evenly??
Does it have adjustable panhard rods??
If not what are the rear radious arm bushes looking like?? (knackered probably)
Has the caster angle been corrected??
Have the break lines been lengthened??
what state are the rear UJ's in after running for XXXk's at the high angles??
What are the bodylift blocks made from??
who did the body lift??
What as done to get the shifters to work??
what size and graxe bolts were used??
What was done with the rear two body mount bolts??
Was the radioator relocated??
Were the fuel hoses lengthened??
Was the fuel filler hose extended??
was the fan shroud modified??
Fark, the list goes on with a pre-modded truck. Just be mindfull of the above things when your looking for pre loved safari. It can all end up more expensive in the long run, as you repair and replace someone elses mistakes plus the other generalwear and tear on the vehicle.
With a standard one, look at the state of the body mounts (doesn't matter if your doing a body lift), look at the suspension bushes, the left hand engine mount, tappet noise, oil pressure, compression and rust around the roof and windscreen and injector pump leaks. Otherwise if the general condition suits the money they want, then your pretty well right
Last edited by DieselBoy on Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:14 pm, edited 2 times in total.
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
That above post is some sound advice of what to look for when buying a used 4x4 from personal experience, and as i said its all IMHO (In My Humble Opinion).
Colly can take it or leave it, so simmer down, i'm being constructive as were you
Colly can take it or leave it, so simmer down, i'm being constructive as were you
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
If you can find a pre-modded safari with all or some of the mods that you can see yourself doing then go for it if the important things are in good condition (chassis and motor).
Who cares if a few bushes are worn or it may need new shocks, replacing these items are easy and it will still be cheaper than starting out with a bog standard one.
Ive just built up an off road safari from scratch and looking back at it i may have been better off buying a pre-modded one and doing the final modifications to suite myself, it would have saved mw time and money.
Who cares if a few bushes are worn or it may need new shocks, replacing these items are easy and it will still be cheaper than starting out with a bog standard one.
Ive just built up an off road safari from scratch and looking back at it i may have been better off buying a pre-modded one and doing the final modifications to suite myself, it would have saved mw time and money.
MWB V8 Safari Ute
Thanks to all for the interest and your input, very much appreciated!
Mudchuka - thanks for those leads, the first one has his cellphone disconnected, do you know who it is?
The second one is in Chch, bit of a mission to check it out from here (I'm in Queenstown).
I have found a standard swb at a dealer in Alexandra - 1990, 200,000km $8500. Rust around rear windows, some sort of water leak at the front of the motor, and suicide clutch. The clutch issue could be crook servo as there is vacuum present in the tube. The water leak he's getting checked out and hopefully repaired, and getting an opinion on the clutch. I've tried pushing him to repair both, but he's reluctant...will find out tomorrow.
Still it would be nice to find one with a moderate lift and snorkel.
Mudchuka - thanks for those leads, the first one has his cellphone disconnected, do you know who it is?
The second one is in Chch, bit of a mission to check it out from here (I'm in Queenstown).
I have found a standard swb at a dealer in Alexandra - 1990, 200,000km $8500. Rust around rear windows, some sort of water leak at the front of the motor, and suicide clutch. The clutch issue could be crook servo as there is vacuum present in the tube. The water leak he's getting checked out and hopefully repaired, and getting an opinion on the clutch. I've tried pushing him to repair both, but he's reluctant...will find out tomorrow.
Still it would be nice to find one with a moderate lift and snorkel.
$299 for a snorkle, $500ish for good springs (brand dependant, but at least you can get the rate you like/need) $500ish for good shocks, although there are quite a few good new sets on Trademe for a lot less. A days work and you have the snorkle and lift fitted. Its not a hard job at all.
Rear window frame rust is common in every SWB safari, design flaw with the window frames. Its not structural, so don't worry about it to much, you can patch that up at a later date.
Waterleak is most likely the water pump, its arguably the weak point of an otherwise strong engine.
What are the symptoms of the clutch?? Replacement can be a spendy job to pay a garage to do as the gearbox is very much on the heavy side for back yard job. Cost me $1500, but got the car dealer in Chch to front up with half.
Rear window frame rust is common in every SWB safari, design flaw with the window frames. Its not structural, so don't worry about it to much, you can patch that up at a later date.
Waterleak is most likely the water pump, its arguably the weak point of an otherwise strong engine.
What are the symptoms of the clutch?? Replacement can be a spendy job to pay a garage to do as the gearbox is very much on the heavy side for back yard job. Cost me $1500, but got the car dealer in Chch to front up with half.
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
this looks like a bargain a 1989 ford maverick imported from aussie, i would love it because its a ford... got to be a bargain, its petrol ,imagine a t3 turbo on it... 300hp easy. only 40 000 kms! i have asked for his phone number i will pass it on. its in the north island, you may want to fly up and drive it back.
Now thats a nice truck!!!!!!!!
Bet it will go cheap as its Petrol. At only 40,000k's, it would make it worth while fitting LPG aswell as the snail
Wonder if we could get someone on the site to give it a preliminary check for ya. Imagine the $$$ you would have left to throw a rear ARB at it, high mount winch, 35" Pedes, custom bars. MEAN
Bet it will go cheap as its Petrol. At only 40,000k's, it would make it worth while fitting LPG aswell as the snail
Wonder if we could get someone on the site to give it a preliminary check for ya. Imagine the $$$ you would have left to throw a rear ARB at it, high mount winch, 35" Pedes, custom bars. MEAN
lax2wlg wrote:Is that like saying 'she's hot, for a crackwhore??
mudchuka wrote:man you go on . there are 2 trucks for the guy to ring up about , why dont you find him a good truck instead of pissing people off.
:kiss: now now guys play nice in the sand pit
The above opinions are all valid,this site is about info sharing.No matter what opinion it is,the man asked a question and many answered it,now its up to him to choose the info he wants to go with.I wouldn't call all of DB's questions pissing people off,just his experience as he see's it.
just remember we Nissan guys have to stick together..too many toyboyz ready to bring us down ***Prior Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance***
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