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question about unregistered tuff truck on road temporarily

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Considering a tuff truck project at the moment. Wasnt planning on making it road legal due to unknown effort and cost.
Was wondering if a farm license would allow it to be temporarily be driven on road when on safaris from trailer to track (or between tracks). How do you guys with tuff trucks do it?
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Look left..................... nope no police officers
Look right.......................nope no police officers
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My understanding of a farm licence is it is only valid for a 21km round trip from the farm it is registered to, and has to be being used in relation to farming.
If capable of doing more than 40km/h there is still a WOF requirement.

There are exceptions for licensing

Using a vehicle on the road or inspection, servicing or repair

If you are using your vehicle on a road solely for the purpose, and directly to the place, of inspection, servicing or repair, you will have a defence for using an unlicensed vehicle. This is similar to the law which allows people to drive a vehicle without a current Warrant of Fitness as long as they are taking the vehicle directly to a garage or testing station. This means that your vehicle must be licensed if you are using it for any other purpose but you may drive it unlicensed for these purposes. Please note however, that the vehicle must still be safe to be operated on the road even if it requires repairs in order to obtain an inspection.

Using a vehicle to cross the road

If you are using your vehicle on the road solely for the purpose of crossing that road you will have a defence for using an unlicensed vehicle. This means that your vehicle must be licensed if you are using it for any other purpose but you may drive it unlicensed if it is only for the purpose of crossing the road. Crossing the road does not mean you can drive down the road for any distance; you must be crossing in a direct line from one side of the road to the other.

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the simple answer is you take the risk mate

if the plates are still live in the system assuming its not a scratch built you can put it on A or B class registration without requiring a current wof but that doesn't mean you can drive it legally on the road as it would be a pretty good guess that although it'll probably be safe to drive it's unlikely it would meet wof standards and requirements and also probably need lvvta certification for modifications.

lots of people sneak around like that but you have to wear the risk of getting written off the road as defective or unsafe and you'd be unlikely to get any 3rd party etc insurance cover in the event you meet a big flash car or the cockies brand new turbo diesel 70 series V8 cruiser truck on a bend in the gravel road :D
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derk wrote: or the cockies brand new turbo diesel 70 series V8 cruiser truck on a bend in the gravel road :D


There all driving those ford rangers these days. lol
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as others have said above there is no legal way to do this other than having wof/reg/cert for a modified truck like that.
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trucked wrote:as others have said above there is no legal way to do this other than having wof/reg/cert for a modified truck like that.


Had my trial truck registered as a "mobile machine" which can be used on the road for purposes of working, fueling, or repair, was a distance limit on that though, as it had a winch on the front, I was going to use the line, had been hired to recover the other vehicles in the group!!, not sure how far it would fly, but not a farm reg, i spoke to a couple of police buddies and even they were not to sure how to handle that one, but rules have probably changed now, but worth a look.


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You can use an unlicensed motor vehicle which is normally propelled by mechanical power that is being temporarily towed without use of its own power. This is why it is legal to an A-frame with an unlicensed vehicle.

So if you do the look both ways and then see a policeman, get someone to tow you, with your engine off, up the road to the next track :D
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Vehicles with plates on hold will cost half the fine of an unregistered vehicle......it's all about risk, where you use it and how legal it appears for those that take the risks....now i'm not recommending any illegal activities, just how to reduce cost and risk :mrgreen:
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Thanks all, might look into the mobile license. Otherwise might just mean modding a roadworthy vehicle instead of custom building something simple from scratch using odds and ends (not wofable) which was my original thought.

I guess I could do it as long as the safari or dirt road didnt cross or need you to go along a legal road a bit before going off road again.

How do quad bikes and rzrs (side by sides) get away with it then away from 'home'?
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The other thing to think of is are the organisers of the safari or tag-a-long trip going to take the risk of letting you participate in an unregistered or unwarranted vehicle?
I would think they ask for registered and warranted vehicles for a reason and that could partly be to cover their own butts.
You taking an unwarranted vehicle may put additional risk onto them should something happen.
Its bad enough with the new Outdoor Adventure regulations impacting on organisers as it is, without one of our own trying to circumvent the law.
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Hi am not trying to circumvent law, all my questions are about ways of doing it legally.
its a good point about organisers requiring regoed and wofed cars, but i have seen side by sides, and unregoed tuff trucks go along to club trips, my question is how are they doing this legally and are there allowances etc.
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Club trips and safari tag-a-longs are two different things.
One is for club members only. The other is a fundraising event for public to attend.
Attending a public event which requires rego and wof would mean you don't meet the trip requirements and if any happens you put the trip organisers at risk, as well as yourself.
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So for a club trip you may not be required to have a rego and wof? If so, it partly answers my question.

I guess the side by sides and unregoed tuff trucks take the risk of getting caught when crossing public roads to get to tracks when on club only outtings. Thanks for the info folks.
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Sorry Mate but Toms answer is the only correct one
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