jungle trekkers ??? opinions

[1kz_surf]

hey guys im not sure what tyres to buy

my factors are I do a few road km ,
I want aggressive tyres (simex extreme,silverstone extreme ,)
I want a 33inch ish
the are gong onto a surf so mid weight
im not a savage ( debatable)


seen the silverstones in action and like them my fronts are wearing out (bighorns) ad I have a good set of wranglers on the back I would idealy like to go to a nasty tyre but whats everyones thoughts on the jungle trekker ?

I like how its more rubber to wear out than a normal trekker

any one had experience?

[zed]

Jungle trekkers are not directional like the extreme trekkers, for that reason some people with ETs carry a JT as a spare. Spoke to a guy with a rangie on JTs he said still aggressive enough for him and slightly more rubber on the road for wet driving. ETs can be a handful on a wet road, when I'm driving my Pajero on the road I give myself a lot of extra stopping distance...

[gordo]

i have a near new set of 33'' JT only been used once open to offers as i run 35'' 0274477112

[Mehrts]

Jungle Trekkers tend to clog up with crap far easier than the Extreme Trekkers or Silverstones as the voids between the tread blocks are closer together. This means they aren't quite as effective in the slop.

Depends what you actually want to use these for I guess. They all have pros and cons.

[zukmeista]

Spoken to someone who has used JT's, reckoned they were lethal on side slopes due to the bar type tread design. Doubt the wear rate would be much different to ET's. Trouble with simex type tyres is that the secondhand prices are ridiculous considering that the performance is greatly reduced once the edges have been rounded off. What are you planning do with them? Bolt on to go 4WDing only? Trailer to 4WDing destinations? Judging by your comment on JT wear rate you are planning to use these on the road, they won't last long before they are rooted so gets quite expensive if you have to replace them frequently because they are too worn to perform decently offroad. I guess what I'm saying is do you really need an extreme offroad tyre or would a good quality MT suffice?

[nztimr33]

not to mention their pretty hard to balance and driving on the motorway can be a bit hairy

[zed]

Yeah I try to get the tyre guys to balance mine to within 100g...less than that and they run out of rim to put the weights on

I have mechanical beadlocks and tubes, 32 10.5 15 ETs

[Mattman]

My extremes are terrible on the road but amazing of road. I think the trekkers with closer blocks would be a good compromise.

Get them Greg! Drive my truck on the road before youd decide tho....

[Team Tonka]

I've had 33" buckshot mudders, trekkers and now have Silverstone mt117 extremes, so here's my thoughts;

The buckshots are as good in the mud as the trekkers but much better on the road.

The silverstones are heaps better than the trekkers in mud but terrible on the road.

So depends on how far you go on the road really. The only place I thought the trekkers had an advantage was in loose shingle.

[Checkerhead]

The only place I thought the trekkers had an advantage was in loose shingle.

Have heard that before.

reckoned they were lethal on side slopes

Jimbob said this as well after using them for Nelson winch comp, he is selling his, reckons they were useless in the mud compared to his extreme trekkers.

I don't find ET's "that" bad on the road. But judge them for what they are. That said, I wouldn't ever call them a daily driver tyre.

The difference between a muddy and an ET (or Silverstone) off road is night and day.

[1kz_surf]

Wicked cheers guys ! Well I'm after some second hand ones by the look so any second hand 33 inch et or jt offers? I'm in welly !

Greg

[zukmeista]

Well if you buy secondhand chances are you are going to pay lots for a set of tyres that will not perform anywhere near as well as new ones, that's why there's usually a few sets for sale on TM with 50-70% tread because they don't work as good when they get a bit worn. But people see the word SIMEX!!! and think they are worth shitloads more than they should be.

[coxsy]

buying new and rims no change from $2500 that's why we need to get some return back when flicking them off

[derk]

seen the silverstones in action and like them my fronts are wearing out (bighorns)

are you looking at offroad only tyres or using them on road as well, if so you'll never see anything wear down in front of your eyes quicker that a set of simex or silverstone

they are digging tyres that work in soft terrain but also make a good all round bush tyre and particularly the silverstones as they have a softer compound than simex (which also makes them chew up and wear down faster ) and as already said earlier there is no comparison between mud tyres and simex/silverstone their performance is moonbeams apart there is no comparison

if your buying second hand bare in mind the best 90% you'll ever get off a tyre is in the first 10% of its wear they still work after that but nothing like when they are new with sharp blocks and no feathered, rounded off and chewed up blocks

[Mattman]

I can literally see the wear on the blocks after a trip.

Last trip up Odlins destroyed a number of blocks with the hard gravel and rock.

[Smurf]

Anyone else have any feedback on the Jungle trekker.
I too thought it would be a good compromise, as in wearing/handling better on road although not as aggressive offroad.
But if the handling is as bad as stated above I am a bit wary.
I do quite a few road KMs to get to 4wd spots so is the JT worth it or not. especially considering it works out around $300 more for JTs than a set of Silverstones

[Crash bandicoot]

I just brought a set of Silverstone extreme's as the soil around where we go 4wd is either very soft topsoil or sticky clay, I found even a new set of MT's such as my KL71's and BF goodrich, were just not going to cut it literally.

I found the issue with them wasn't forward motion but sliding sideways, and as above the big cleats will probably induce the sideways motion aswell but atleast with the big open voids between the blocks will atleast garuntee the mud clears compared to a normal MT.

when it came to balancing the guy got them spot on but one rim has close to 200 grams on one side.


My mistral wieghs up at just under 2 ton with all the bar work front and back (ladder chassi) i don't know what a surf wieghs but i personally wouldn't go wider then a 10.5 to help the tyres dig in better.

I had 12.5's on my hilux and found it would just float around on top instead of biting in, going back to a narrower tire solved this issue considering the hilux was a lighter vehicle.

[mudsurfv6]

I've had et's and jt's, but not silverstones. jt are better on road, not as much like a cog as et if you get what I mean. do wander but pumped up hard I found they were better. harder rubber than silverstones.
one thing is jt aren't directional so work just as well in reverse, what you want for a club truck. but not as grunty as et going forward.
on sidelings I found them to be similar.

but i personally wouldn't go wider then a 10.5 to help the tyres dig in better.

x2.

[derk]

Anyone else have any feedback on the Jungle trekker.
I too thought it would be a good compromise, as in wearing/handling better on road although not as aggressive offroad.
But if the handling is as bad as stated above I am a bit wary.
I do quite a few road KMs to get to 4wd spots so is the JT worth it or not. especially considering it works out around $300 more for JTs than a set of Silverstones

JT or Silverstone both have shit road manners and rapid wearing they are wide void digging tyres and road handing doesn't come into their design they were both designed primarily for offroad use not on road , personally I've never thought JTs ever cut the mustard compared to an ET or Silverstone and never really thought silverstones cut the mustard either until they increased the size of the molds so they now measure up higher than an ET I've shifted from ETs to silverstones now they are a good size rolling diameter and have bigger voids and softer rubber compound giving them an edge over simex albeit wearing and chewing up faster

[mudlva]

Looked at tsl tyres?
Better road handling than tractor treads
Better off road than radial muds
Not as good in the hard stuff as tractor treads tho
Nice big side bite lugs still empty out bogs well

[Smurf]

Looked at tsl tyres?

Just had that conversation this morning, who stocks them in NZ? 4wdbits list a few bigger tyres but I would need 33/10.5 or 11.5 /15

[mudlva]

Talk to Warren at 4wdbits. Been told hes very approachable

[derk]

got to be a rich man to own a set of them swampers

[mudlva]

got to be a rich man to own a set of them swampers

Got to be a rich man to run simy's on a dd

[Timmy511]

Blancing isnt an issue, use balancing beads in the tyre, that fixes that and really should be used in all 4wd tyres, as you rip chanks out of them the weight of the tyre changes, rim weight wont change with that, beads how ever dynamically ballance the tyre using centrifugal force.

using simex, super swampers, silverstones on the road is retarded, youll wear them out in weeks and as already mentioned theyre deadly on wet tar seal. just use mts, unless its a comp truck of course.