lsd in front

stan · Post by **stan** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:50 pm

does a lsd work good in the front of 95 doublecab hilux and do the heads bolt straight in with no problems..also does anyone have a spare lsd for sale

mudhaw · Post by **mudhaw** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:04 pm

Is it an indepenant front end?
Is it a high or low pinion?

albundy · Post by **albundy** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:11 pm

Talk to Hosehustler his Old Man used to run an LSD in the front of his dualcab hilux, eventually changed to an airlocker as he didn't lke the feel of a front LSD I think.
Al

stan · Post by **stan** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:31 pm

its not independent and think its a low pinion not too sure how do i tell....and yeah was wondering how lsd in the front would feel while driving

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:56 pm

have an LSD in the front of my missile, doesnt have the agressive traction that the locker had but doesnt blow CV's all the time either which is much better when your in the bush with limited spares.

as for driving feel, i cant tell the difference between the LSD and an open diff when cruising tracks, has a bit more traction then an open diff but doesnt make the steering any harder or turning radius wider which the locker did.

stan · Post by **stan** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:25 pm

ok sounds good but do you know if a rear limited slip diff head will bolt in to front diff on hilux..oh do you know of any for sale

mudhaw · Post by **mudhaw** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:23 pm

your rear diff is a low pinion if the front diff head looks like it is upside down compared to the rear diff it is a high pinion if it looks the same as the rear diff a rear one should fit

Rangielux · Post by **Rangielux** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:09 am

mudhaw wrote: if it looks the same as the rear diff a rear one should fit

Yeah it will swap from the back to the front - I've done it on my Lux. You wont notice hardly any difference in driving, but will get a bit more traction at times when needed. There is plenty of guys in 4runners and Lux's running LSDs front and rear and they go well.

Before putting it in the front make sure it's still nice and tight and working well- otherwise you may be putting in alot of effort for little result. Hilux rear LSDs have a pretty good reputation for being shagged after 50 or 60,000km road work

When it comes to checking out wear and specs of an LSD there is a couple of older threads here with all the info on the topic

hosehustler · Post by **hosehustler** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:30 pm

albundy wrote:Talk to Hosehustler his Old Man used to run an LSD in the front of his dualcab hilux, eventually changed to an airlocker as he didn't lke the feel of a front LSD I think.
Al

Al is right Dad put an LSD in the front of his 93 beam axle d/c lux.....was better than standard by far but was removed in favour of a locker which is the better option by far and not too disimilar in price if you go for the lockrite type which is the cheapest option (about 500.00) if you import onr yourself on do what Dad did and put ARB in 1200.00 minimum :shock:

overall I suggest you spend your money on a lockright but can sell you an LSD if you wanna watse your time :roll:

stan · Post by **stan** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:03 pm

who or where would i get a lockright locker and are they easy enough to fit

Post by **mike** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:13 pm

http://www.rocky-road.com under powertrax just select what diff you require and allow 2-3 weeks. Cheapest option for us in NZ for auto lockers.

Mike

mudhaw · Post by **mudhaw** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:30 pm

The best option is an air locker. The others are ok for bush tracks etc but if you do any farm driving along the sides of hills they can be dangerous as you will find the front sliding diwn hill

Petemcc · Post by **Petemcc** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:32 pm

i have found that the auto lokka's actually unlock quite easily (wet grass if you go slow you wont rip up the inside wheel) and if you have manual hubs if its really slippery and your worried then make it a 3wd

stan · Post by **stan** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:40 pm

would a lsd slip diff in the front down hill on a slope track

Rangielux · Post by **Rangielux** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:24 pm

mudhaw wrote:The best option is an air locker. The others are ok for bush tracks etc but if you do any farm driving along the sides of hills they can be dangerous as you will find the front sliding diwn hill

undoubtably an air locker is the best option. We would all have air lockers Front and Rear if we had the coin.

The query was about a LSD in the front. When I saw Ben - wopass with his locka in the front it put me off doing the same (I see where exactly he is coming from in his post) so I'll stick with my LSD. I've never had any handling problems on and around hills, although it is trailered and even though it also has a welded rear

. When out with Wopass when he had his auto locka's at both ends I seemed to steer mine around corners better and wasn't really at to much disadvantage otherwise either.

As for LSD's slipping the front around going down or up hills. I've spent 2000hrs sliding around the big King Country hills cropping with tractors with LSD fronts over the last few years and have never had an issue what so ever(same as in my truck). More traction the better. Certainly when you lock the rear tractor diff on a slippery sidling it may slide sideways abit, normally in those cases you would just use a bit of the top side independent (same as a comp truck)

Leithfield · Post by **Leithfield** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:39 pm

Prior to transplant of dual ARB's, in an earlier life my Surf was equipped with front and rear LSD's. The LSD's were 'tightened', and while not offering difflock-like traction, performed extremely well. Thus shod, I tackled some pretty extreme terrain, and never experienced any adverse handling characteristics.

In my personal opinion, borne of personal experience, I would not hesitate to recommend an LSD in the front

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MNC · Post by **MNC** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:42 pm

How tight did you pack the LSDs?

I've heard recommenations of 110lbs but that was for a road vehicle and I`m wanting to know for my FJ40 offroader.

stan · Post by **stan** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:42 pm

also how do you tighten them and how do you know how tight it is

Rangielux · Post by **Rangielux** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:59 pm

have a look here and there are others and it saves on a redebate

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/modules ... pic&t=2365

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