Aussie moved to CHCH and bought a 89' bundera equivelent !

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:03 am

I recently moved to christchurch from melbourne all of 2 months now , as love the outdoors & adventure so much and what better place than the sth island . I work as a chippy & always have been really mechanically minded .

I recently bought a Gun metal grey 89' SWB landcruiser with a 2L-T with 220,000 klm off trademe , haven't had any toyota's before so did'nt know much about them ( only jeeps , internationals , etc )- "you live and learn", was told by the seller that there was nothing really wrong with it , soon learnt otherwise.

The 2L-T has a bottem end problem , maybe rings or a piston as its blowing a bit of smoke ever since i changed the oil ( owner obviously put that "stop smoke" in it ), so planning to fresh;n the engine soon with new rings , bearings & seals & do the head . hate how theres bugger all power until 2 grand when the turbo kicks in , thinkn possibly a toyota supercharger from the jap wrecker in place of the air con compressor , should give it a kick along in the early rev's & LPG injection , planning on some really good modifications coming soon .

Also a bearing in my t/case or gearbox is really noisey , its in all gears and the faster i go , the noisier it gets - hummming noise ? went to a local gearbox specialist specifically to trace the ruddy noise , but they were hopeless and just did an oil change and nothing else . Now looking for gearbox & T/case full rebuild kits so i can rebuild both of them.

Ultimatelly looking a blueprinting a 13BT , not sure if it will bolt up to my gearbox ? ( maybe a bell housing change ), may have to get the heavier duty box .

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:17 am

Welcome to NZ... sounds like you bought heaps of money with you

Ditch the 2L-T before you go wasting any more money on it and find a 2JZ Supra motor - it will bolt up to an auto from a later prado or a surf or you can use an adaptor plate to bolt it to your gearbox.

Heaps more horsepower, proven swap now as there are a few of them out there (WJW on this board has one in his LJ78 prado which will have the same engine bay size as yours)

If you really want diesel, then look at the 1KZ - should be lighter and smaller than the old 13BT and should (figures, someone?) produce more power.

Steve

Madaz · Post by **Madaz** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:12 pm

1uz-fe

albundy · Post by **albundy** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:30 pm

Beginning to think I was the only 4wheeling Aussie here in CHCH. Welcome and we will have to catch up oneday.
Al

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:05 am

thats the thing, i have had many rigs in the past and spent too much upgrading stuff and had too many projects on & spent most my spare time working on them , just want to enjoy the outdoors and exploring NZ now , aswell as adventures sports , etc.

so the 2Lt is staying , until i have enough $$$ to build a 13bt the way i want ( without an ECU and all mechanical, reliable as ! don't want a petrol "full stop", diesel power is the way to go these days as you can easily improve them ( most people never knew how ).

good to see another Aussie in this land , they are few and far between , too many poms & Irish coming here and all the kiwi's have gone to Aussie-LOL

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:42 pm

actually thinking the easiest & best route will be a 3L ( 2.8 ) , have to find a re-builder and build it to handle a bit of forced induction power, LPG injection , intercooler , etc

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:10 am

Great to see someone else on the forums (besides me) who asks for advice then totally ignores it all and does his own thing :lol:

I had a Bundy myself a few years back and as comfortable as it was the 2.4TD was just arse... and there is, despite your protestations of improvability, nothing worth doing to them as a motor... I've had surfs with em too... 3 in total now... they are just shite... weak and prone to pop without warning, expensive to rebuild and gutless.

The 2.8 with a turbo on it is a nice motor, driven a couple... I know Kaiapoi Diesel Repowers have done one or two... and Blairs is a Chch importer that might have one... or try Ace 4WD as they wreck a few... or Lineside Automotive if your desparate... they are not cheap, but they do supply good stuff with good warranties and good information/advice.

Oh, I've just ditched oil burners in favour of a tyre-smoker... the jury is still out... my 3.1TD was great, but the 5 litre Holden V8 should be better

Steve

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:37 pm

supralux >>i;ll take on board opinions & suggestions that are inline with my outllook on each subject , like anyone else . I know i don't want to spend mega $$$ on a daily driver and have been a diesel fan for a wee while now& its getting stronger .

Thanks for your advice on the 2.8 , i'll take that on. What is your opinion on the subject >>> whats the strongest 4 cylinder turbo diesel that toyota ever built ( as in ability to handle substantial power increase ) ??? curious ( struggle to fit a 6 into a LJ71 & don't want the weight penalty)

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:27 am

The b-series are stong and reliable but not that much power... the KZ's are grunty as all heck, but have head reliability issues (like nearly all high-output diesels developed in the early 90's - Isuzu, Mitsi, Toyota...)

The 5L is a good strong motor, but they are reputed to suffer from being "souped up"

I guess if you want diesel then you need to accept you'll have a heavy and under-performing motor... or reliability issues... or both... Still, its a 4WD, not a race car

I'm like you, I take on board advice thats in line with my way of thinking and store/discard the rest... I'm not trying to tell you what to do or hoist my opinions on you... I'm simply responding to your post...

Whatever you do, take shitloads of pics and post them all here... a project is a project, and thats what we love

Steve

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:26 pm

'The b-series are stong and reliable but not that much power... the KZ's are grunty as all heck, but have head reliability issues (like nearly all high-output diesels developed in the early 90's - Isuzu, Mitsi, Toyota...)'

I spose at the end of the day these car manufacturer's all get their Designs @ input from the major diesel players like Cummins is to Dodge , International is to ford "power stroke" , Chev is to detroit diesel/ Isuzu , etc , etc. , you can't beat these diesel specialist companys really for strength & build quality . I think Isuzu is the only car & truck manufacturer , maybe Hino also that design and build their own diesels .

Alot of cummins 6BT engines are used in diesel drag cars aswell as the chev 6.6 . if i want a strong motor than can handle power , then its a cummins , detroit or international , etc & carry the weight penalty. my last project was a jeep J2000 and was going to drop in a 4BT cummins , but scrapped the project and moved down here from Brisbane .

smurf182 · Post by **smurf182** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:44 pm

I'd go for a rebuilt 3L with the injector pump, turbo and manifolds etc from your 2L-T.

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:46 pm

I reckn 3L's are a waste of money , they are "few and far between "/needle in a hay stack" , they are hi compression natural motors and not really suited for forced induction .I have seen a few 1KZ-TE going really cheap lately on trademe. would have one of those over a 3L anyday , plus a 3L is pretty much a 2LT - it has the same head design that everyone hangs shit on !

whats a shame toyota did'nt design their diesels purposelly for Turbo applications , most have 20:1 + compression ratio's .

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:41 am

"gave in" to the get rid of the 2LT pressure -lol

I really want a 13 or 14 BT , so why not just do it and get it done, goin to freshn the 2LT to get me around until the Day comes to "swaparoony", already have traced a heavy duty cruiser gear box & t/case out of a series 60 !

smurf182 · Post by **smurf182** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:32 pm

adventures_more wrote:a 3L is pretty much a 2LT - it has the same head design that everyone hangs shit on !

No, it isn't, the 3L heads don't have the design flaw of the stock 2L-T(E) heads. This is why the standard procedure upon cracking a 2L-T head is to replace it with a 3L head.

A little research before shooting down other's suggestions may benefit.

Also the 3L is basically a bolt in prospect whereas with the 1KZ your looking at custom engine mounts and your current g/box won't bolt straight up either etc. In saying this a 1KZ powered 70 series would be awesome and I look forward to reading about it in the projects section.

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:10 pm

As far as what i have been told , have read . The late 2LTe motor has the same head a 3L , but then again i have seen 3L heads with roller rockers same as the earlier 2LT's , either way I'm not wasting my money & time on an In-Direct turbo diesel full stop ( 2LT's , 1KZ-TE , 3L's , etc ), their good stock , but you can only go so far with them when "POWER" upgrades are in mind .
( Does anyone know precisely why the 2Lt heads crack - thin wall casting or something maybe ?? )

A "Super Tough"- Direct 13BT is already on the cards , just have to arrange freight for it !

adventures_more · Post by **adventures_more** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:11 pm

As far as what i have been told & have read . The late 2LTe motor has the same head as a 3L , but then again i have seen 3L heads with roller rockers similar/same as the earlier 2LT's , either way I'm not wasting my money & time on an In-Direct turbo diesel full stop ( 2LT's , 1KZ-TE , 3L's , etc ), their good stock , but you can only go so far with them when "POWER" upgrades are in mind .

A "Super Tough"- Direct 13BT is already on the cards , just have to arrange freight for it !