bj40 build...

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:38 am

FARK!!!!!!!!! those things of roks look big on ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:22 pm

seasons greetings all...

over the new years going has slowed slightly but my interest has definitely not faded :!:

h20 with his infinite wealth of connections was able to hook me up with a profile cut spacer.. 12mm deep, shaped like the top of the king pins and drilled to suit the soon to be placed hi tensile bolts..

took a stud out and placed all the lower arm, cone washers,spacer, upper arm and its cone washers on to measure the length of bolt needed... i'm goin shoppin for four 80mm by 12mm thread grade 8.8 nickel bolts tomorrow..

mocked bits to measure length of bolt needed.. (p.s, i know, top of flipped king pin is ugly... that'll be goin too..)

lined up the steerin box to approximately where its going to be livin out the rest of its life.. putting 5mm on both sides of chassis rail and bolt right through with the crush tube sittin between the plates etc...

mocked mounting..

will be more to come on this..

keep cool till after school..

MNC · Post by **MNC** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:35 pm

It's so pritty I could cry. :cry:

Nice one nibby.

Hey have you kept track of how much you have been spending doing all your mods? Or is that a big mistake that could only lead to no good :roll:

lilpigzuk · Post by **lilpigzuk** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:38 pm

Yeah nice work Nibsta.....even for a yota....

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:39 pm

i've kept the receipts of more major purchases, theres of course the odd twenty purchases that have been missed..

thats a dangerous thing to ask mnc.. :shock:

i'll leave the tally thing till a bit later me thinks.. :wink:

mudchuka · Post by **mudchuka** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:41 pm

do you want another one? i got a offered fj4o with bull bars for $50...

MudBum · Post by **MudBum** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:04 am

niblik wrote:. i'm goin shoppin for four 80mm by 12mm thread grade 8.8 nickel bolts tomorrow..

I cant hold my tongue any longer

Nib u spastic how many time have we told u not to buy bolts other than thru me

More bolt, less bucks :!:

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:36 am

Its looking good man, when do you think it wil be finished?

2008, 2009 or later :lol:

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:09 pm

Aaron wrote:Its looking good man, when do you think it wil be finished?

2008, 2009 or later

2010 at the current rate of progress, and the spacer between the steering arms is 16mm plate not 12mm Nibby :roll:

rokhound · Post by **rokhound** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:42 pm

Yeah Nib you spastic. I wanta get on this bandwagen and pay you out as well :twisted:

Just seems to be the thing to do at the mo :wink:

lilpigzuk · Post by **lilpigzuk** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:51 pm

Yeah thats right, hang your head in shame boy :lol:

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:33 pm

H2OLOVA wrote: spacer between the steering arms is 16mm plate not 12mm Nibby

yeah, thats it.. oopsy... :oops:

MudBum wrote: told u not to buy bolts other than thru me

alright.. i'll do that with these then..work turned to mud today so couldnt get away to do the shoppin...

lilpigzuk wrote:even for a yota....

MudBum wrote:Nib u spastic

rokhound wrote:Yeah Nib you spastic.

fawkers... :lol:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:22 pm

dont get bolts at all !....
:roll:

like i told you before, get cap heads ! higher grade tensile strength !

high tensile bolt = grade 8.8
cap head bolt = grade 12.8

on something thats holding your steering on i wouldnt even think about using anything less than the strongest option :wink:

looking good to by the way bro

rokhound · Post by **rokhound** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:24 pm

Sorry Nib, too busy giving u shit :oops:

LOOKIN' GOOOOODLY

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:18 pm

I'm with WA on this I'd also say add Nordlock washers this is something you don't want to come undone!! :shock:

Cheers Reece

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:28 pm

De-Ranged wrote: add Nordlock washers

can you enlighten me on what these are please fella? availability? pic perhaps?

:oops:

its a 'learn as ya go' type thing..

callum007 · Post by **callum007** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:55 pm

oi slacker.. google it.. http://www.stanleyind.com/product/washer/nordlock/nord.html

even better http://www.fortressfasteners.co.nz/DesktopDefault.aspx?pageid=165 LOCAL!!

http://www.fortressfasteners.co.nz/TemplateImages/products/Category%2018%20Washers.pdf

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:08 pm

Cheers Cal... I was just about to look up some pics, for some reason my comp didn't want to load the Nord-lock web site

You should be able to get them from any fastner shop.... if it helps I go through SteelMaster they give a good discount :wink:

might have something to do with how much I spend tho :lol:

Oh and a word to the wise measure those bolts spot on you want as much thread as you can get without poking the bolts through and fouling your steering swivil :shock:

Cheers Reece

MudBum · Post by **MudBum** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:51 am

niblik wrote:
De-Ranged wrote: add Nordlock washers

can you enlighten me on what these are please fella? availability? pic perhaps?

its a 'learn as ya go' type thing..

Nib we get these all the time :roll:

MSL just round the corner :wink:

MNC · Post by **MNC** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:39 pm

One day Nib - One day :lol:

Turn it up loud!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W3TPlFFF1c

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:51 pm

lined up the steering box to keep the front of the arm 'in-line' with the steerin flipped arm on the other side..

the little spacer for the flip arm hi-steer steering..

and the steering mocked up..

mudbum's hookin me up with some bolts for the thing and nordlocks too..

once holes for powersteering box were marked, they got drilled out and sleeved up with the tube..

and from the inside of the rail.. (nb, its gonna be a longer piece of 5mm plate used on the inside of rail here to sturdy up the rail where the hole is..)

finally bolted up to the rail with a bit of 5mm plate...

gotta do the steering shafts now..

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:38 pm

been playin with bits so here goes....

during night shifts i was able to utilise time pulling apart the front calipers and blasting them with sandy goodness.. honed out the bore then gave em a coat of red vht caliper paint stuffs, then proceeded to refurbish the crappy piston's and seals that were well (in your best fatty vaughton voice) goooone... :wink:

with and without pistons...

finished product..

it was sooo easy to rekit the calipers i'm glad i gave it a nudge myself.. man, i've heard of places redoin em for $100 or more? eh to that!

also at night i milled the top of the flipped steering arm off, to be flush..

then slapped it all together for a final fitting..

and the last in an ongoing saga.. the power stering box is finally all tubed up, plated and bolted..
outer rail view..

inner..

both the 5mm plates will be fully welded at a later date..

t.t.f.n... :twisted:

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:00 pm

looking good nibsta who did the welds

a machine!!

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:03 pm

mroffroader wrote: who did the welds a machine!!

thats h20's handy work.. cookin with gas that cat.. :wink:

:cheers:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:07 pm

looking good bro......

but WTF :!:

we have talked about this.......

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:24 pm

let me guess Wopass :wink:

" Capscrews Capscrews Capscrews"

dont know how right this is but heres how i think it works Given the potential for shock loading if you hit a rock etc then a higher grade bolt is more likely to shatter than a lower grade which will bend a bit more. The certifier was keen for us to use bolts as opposed to capscrews to.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:37 am

Red calipers ooooh aaaaah

That will make it the fastest 40 in town :lol:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:01 pm

H2OLOVA wrote::lol: let me guess Wopass

" Capscrews Capscrews Capscrews"

dont know how right this is but heres how i think it works Given the potential for shock loading if you hit a rock etc then a higher grade bolt is more likely to shatter than a lower grade which will bend a bit more. The certifier was keen for us to use bolts as opposed to capscrews to.

your certifier needs his head read. if thats the case then why not just use mild steel bolts, why use high tensile in the first place ? cap screws with a 12.8 grade will break more quickly yes if given enough force, which would have to be a third as much again force as that needed to break a 8.8 grade bolt which will yeild slower but at a much less force than that of the cap screw. the up shot of it is a grade 12.8 cap screw will take much more load to break than a grade 8.8 bolt.and there will be no bending in there as its completly encapsulated so there is only potential to sheer the bolt or stretch it to breaking point.

i know what i would rather have on my steering :wink:

but if thats what your cert man wants i guess he knows best :roll:

im no engineer thats just my opinion :lol:

wheres suzola when you need him :idea:

Madaz · Post by **Madaz** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:37 pm

Just wondering , do you still have the tapered locking collets in the lower steering arm under that spacer?

Oh and my 2 cents worth, I agree with wopass(and even if I needed those bolts to get it certed I would change to 12.9s later on)

Cheers

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:57 pm

Madaz wrote:Just wondering , do you still have the tapered locking collets in the lower steering arm under that spacer?

yep... both sets of 'cone washers' are in their respective steering arms..

as for the views on putting the capscrews in at a later date.. yeah, i'm seein where ya comin from and will possibly go down that road later..

as for now, these will do, more mods to perform on the 40 first!!

bj40 build...

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