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sj413 hilux axle swap.

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Hi everyone. New to the forum here.
Just bought a Suzuki's sj413 and I'm wanting to put the axles from my wrecked hilux under it. Can anyonetell me what hhardware I'm going to requite and how Mich of a mission it may be.
Thanks heaps in advance.
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if you are staying with leave springs it should be to hard
will need to look at steering box as the little zooks arnt that big
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Why do you want to do it?
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Looking to get a bit more stability and I'm upgrading to a much more powerful engine so just trying to idiot proof it. I'll. Be going with a spring over axle configuration aswell.
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mudlva wrote:if you are staying with leave springs it should be to hard
will need to look at steering box as the little zooks arnt that big

So what would you suggest steering box wise. Maybe use the hilux gear?
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Choppa wrote:
mudlva wrote:if you are staying with leave springs it should be to hard
will need to look at steering box as the little zooks arnt that big

So what would you suggest steering box wise. Maybe use the hilux gear?



lux lc or saf would all do the job well
just depends on where you want the pitman arm located

opps just reread my first post as well.
should of said "shouldn't be to hard"
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mudlva wrote:
Choppa wrote:
mudlva wrote:if you are staying with leave springs it should be to hard
will need to look at steering box as the little zooks arnt that big

So what would you suggest steering box wise. Maybe use the hilux gear?



lux lc or saf would all do the job well
just depends on where you want the pitman arm located

opps just reread my first post as well.
should of said "shouldn't be to hard"

So what steering components from the hilux will I need?
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Save yourself the hassle and just put the Suzuki body on the hilux chassis that way when you fit a 'much more powerful motor' it won't turn your chassis into a pretzel...
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zukmeista wrote:Save yourself the hassle and just put the Suzuki body on the hilux chassis that way when you fit a 'much more powerful motor' it won't turn your chassis into a pretzel...


Fair call but wanting to keep the zuk body and chassis.
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Choppa wrote:
zukmeista wrote:Save yourself the hassle and just put the Suzuki body on the hilux chassis that way when you fit a 'much more powerful motor' it won't turn your chassis into a pretzel...


Fair call but wanting to keep the zuk body and chassis.


I had a swift gti powered sj410 on standard running gear 10 years ago, was the best club truck Ive ever owned. Never broke axles, never rolled where other vehicles did

put hilux axles under a zuk you will need atleast 33s to keep up in ruts, a bigger engine to turn 33 + inch tyres, get bored of that, go 35s,
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When you do give me a bell I'd be happy to give you a hand.... especially if you can get me access to a work shop lol
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welder, grinder, beer, engine replant, exhaust, bigger radiator, driveshafts, taller tyres, hilux brake master cylinder and you should be sweet mate :D
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Road registered or trailer queen?

Its what i have built over the last 10 months (an off road only buggy), there is a huge amount of information and knowledge at http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/13-suzuki/ i put up my build thread on this site.

i started with a SJ413 chassis and tub but i ended up cutting so much of the chassis away that i ditched the suzuki chassis completely then pipped up the whole thing which made it way stronger, the tub i removed everything apart from a bit of firewall, the trans tunnel and bonnet. I stretched it to 102 inches to make it more stable and safer on drop offs.

I used the hilux diffs and drive shafts but the suzuki transfer case. Trailer Gear in the US makes all the bits you need for the conversion, Warren@4WDBits in Auckland are able to supply all these locally.

I had a 1.5 engine and 5 speed which was not enough to power my buggy despite me only weighing 1050 kgs so i am currently repowering with a 2.0 litre and auto. I regeared my transfer case to 6.5 to 1 and my diffs are 4.88

I have carried out 99% of the build myself but still around $15K+

I owned 2 x SJ410 before this and they are such good fun sometimes i wish i still had a standard one.

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lilpigzuk wrote:have a sj410 now on 33s, 2L turbo, cruiser axles, Im wanting to move on :lol: :mrgreen:


Only 1 question.lowest price :mrgreen:
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De-Ranged wrote:When you do give me a bell I'd be happy to give you a hand.... especially if you can get me access to a work shop lol


Lol sorry mate no workshop. Just a garage/carport job on this one.
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teamorange wrote:Road registered or trailer queen?

Its what i have built over the last 10 months (an off road only buggy), there is a huge amount of information and knowledge at http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/13-suzuki/ i put up my build thread on this site.

i started with a SJ413 chassis and tub but i ended up cutting so much of the chassis away that i ditched the suzuki chassis completely then pipped up the whole thing which made it way stronger, the tub i removed everything apart from a bit of firewall, the trans tunnel and bonnet. I stretched it to 102 inches to make it more stable and safer on drop offs.

Trailer hag. Purely a bush truck

I used the hilux diffs and drive shafts but the suzuki transfer case. Trailer Gear in the US makes all the bits you need for the conversion, Warren@4WDBits in Auckland are able to supply all these locally.

I had a 1.5 engine and 5 speed which was not enough to power my buggy despite me only weighing 1050 kgs so i am currently repowering with a 2.0 litre and auto. I regeared my transfer case to 6.5 to 1 and my diffs are 4.88

I have carried out 99% of the build myself but still around $15K+

I owned 2 x SJ410 before this and they are such good fun sometimes i wish i still had a standard one.

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derk wrote:welder, grinder, beer, engine replant, exhaust, bigger radiator, driveshafts, taller tyres, hilux brake master cylinder and you should be sweet mate :D


Got a grinder can get a welder. Was thinking of using either a 4age engine or try shoe horning in a v6 of some sort. Tyres I'll sort out. And I'm getting all the hilux gear from my old wrecked one. And as for beer. What would a bush truck modding session be without it. Lol
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Ive got a Toyota 3sgte mated to a hilux 5 speed in my sj410. Goes nuts.
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Your cheapest engine/trans options would be to use a sr20de fwd motor/trans, weld the trans centre diff and cut the axels down, weld drive shaft flanges to them. Just have to drill holes through the axels so you can bolt them together in the trans with a through bolt. Make sense?
I picked up a sweet running sr20de for $250.
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Choppa where about are you
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aroma wrote:Choppa where about are you


West auckland
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