Non starter

For all topics relating to Petrol engines and modificiations.
Post Reply
User avatar
Furgus
Hard Yaka
Posts: 468
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:00 pm
Location: Tauranga
Contact:

Non starter

Post by Furgus »

Over Xmas I got all keen with my old SWB S3 landy & got it running again. It had been starting fine but with no radiator - so never for long. Well I finally hooked up a rad & fan & decided to take it for a test run. I managed to get most of way round a loop on my property when it stated loosing power going up a hill - after that it started cutting out - then I got it stuck on a big log. I managed to get it unstuck with a chainsaw etc but couldn't start it anymore.
On Saturday I towed it back to the shed & started having a go at it. At first when I turned to motor over on the starter without the dissy cap there was a spark between the points when open - I guessed they had closed up so threwa new set in & a condensor as well. Now no spark there - but nor is there one at the plug :roll: In fact there doesn't appear to be any power from the coil - so a new coil went in & no change :(
Any suggestions of what to try next?
If at first you don't succeed .... Get a bigger hammer!!

Image
User avatar
mud_slinger
Hard Yaka
Posts: 1050
Joined: Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:00 pm
Location: christchuch

Post by mud_slinger »

checked the fuses? and ballast resistor?
needs more curry



0272593533
User avatar
Furgus
Hard Yaka
Posts: 468
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:00 pm
Location: Tauranga
Contact:

Post by Furgus »

Fuses are fine & no ballast resistor.
If at first you don't succeed .... Get a bigger hammer!!

Image
User avatar
Mattman
Hard Yaka
Posts: 1643
Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:00 pm
Location: Kapiti

Post by Mattman »

Have you checked power to the coil?

These old ignition systems are pretty simple, if it's not the ballast resistor or the coil it has to be the feed to the coil.

Matt.
User avatar
fweddy
Hard Yaka
Posts: 1062
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:00 pm
Location: North Canterbury

Post by fweddy »

then I got it stuck on a big log. I managed to get it unstuck with a chainsaw etc but couldn't start it anymore.


just what did you cut with the chainsaw? :roll:
User avatar
niblik
Sausage Shack
Posts: 3305
Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 12:00 pm
Location: erm.. out in the shed for a mo...

Post by niblik »

fweddy wrote:just what did you cut with the chainsaw? :roll:


lol :lol: :lol:
ImageImage
User avatar
Furgus
Hard Yaka
Posts: 468
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:00 pm
Location: Tauranga
Contact:

Post by Furgus »

fweddy wrote:

just what did you cut with the chainsaw?



Good call - but I checked that :!: :!:
If at first you don't succeed .... Get a bigger hammer!!

Image
User avatar
ToySurf
Driver/Navigator
Posts: 48
Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:00 pm
Location: Dunedin

Post by ToySurf »

Just put a wire, from your battery to the positive side of the coil. Then crank the motor and see if it goes.
User avatar
Furgus
Hard Yaka
Posts: 468
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:00 pm
Location: Tauranga
Contact:

Post by Furgus »

There's plenty of poer to the coil but no spark - plus the coil is getting f'ing HOT :fire: any ideas (remember it's a new coil - my bet's the HT lead
If at first you don't succeed .... Get a bigger hammer!!

Image
User avatar
Mattman
Hard Yaka
Posts: 1643
Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:00 pm
Location: Kapiti

Post by Mattman »

Sounds like the ballast resistor to me, does it have an external resistor pack?

Matt.
User avatar
mud_slinger
Hard Yaka
Posts: 1050
Joined: Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:00 pm
Location: christchuch

Post by mud_slinger »

is the dizzy cap ok? the bit in the middle that touches rotor is not missin or naffed?
needs more curry



0272593533
User avatar
dctecho
Driver/Navigator
Posts: 33
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: West Auckland

Post by dctecho »

If there's no spark spark at points and the coil heating up check the wiring from the negitive side of the coil (ie the wire to the distributor)also make sure the conection on the points has not turned and shorted to earth, or the insulation were the wire comes into the dissy is worn.You can check this by pulling the wire off the negitive side of the coil turn the ignition on with the points open then touch the wire back on coil,If it sparks there is a short to earth in the dissy somewhere.
hope this helps
Cheers Scotty
User avatar
giovanni
Driver/Navigator
Posts: 40
Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:00 pm
Location: Enderley,Hamilton,North Island,New Zealand.

Post by giovanni »

Sounds like the primary has shorted to ground.The coil will heat up if the points are closed or the primary is shorted.Go with Scottys plan.With the points open, see if you can get a spark by bridging the points gap with the blade of a screwdriver.If the ignition points connection is the early type with a insulated post the fibre washers that insulate the pig tail eye terminal may not be in the correct position.Also if it has a tachometer or kill switch the wiring to these could also be the culprit.Make/buy a 12volt test light and trace the 12v supply from the coil.Keep us posted.
"Make love to a Pantry owner.We need more of them!"
Post Reply

Return to “Petrol Engines and Modifications”