(Slow) '87 SJ413 Build

Smurf · Post by **Smurf** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:09 pm

Crawlerer79 wrote: Lifting a 25kg winch up a wet clay hill to mount to a stuck vehicle is a bit of a struggle.... Smurf will agree

Hey I think the door was harder to negotiate tan the winch was.

Crawlerer79 · Post by **Crawlerer79** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:09 am

Smurf wrote:Hey I think the door was harder to negotiate tan the winch was.

Yea, I'll agree with that. Still took two of us to get the winch to the front tho

Crawlerer79 · Post by **Crawlerer79** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:37 am

Tumor, these are a good example of a tyre which may suit considering you're looking at running something as aggressive as a Silverstone.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... 1198449220

UBZ wrote:iMHO the best size tyre for an SJ is a 32x9.5x15 or a 235/85/16

This was a size that I personally would go for and UBZ also recommended (who knows a lot more about Zooks than I do).

Tumor wrote:As for the Super Swampers 4wdbits doesn't sell the 9.50" wide 31s.....

Yea you will have to look out for them on Trade Me or get them brought in yourself.... a guy was recently selling them for $180 a piece!!!!!

I also have some half worn BFG 235/85R16s that I may be selling in the near future, however I need to get replacement tyres first

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:02 pm

?

This was a size that I personally would go for and UBZ also recommended (who knows a lot more about Zooks than I do).

Is there a reason for the 32x9.50 over the 31x9.50?

Crawlerer79 · Post by **Crawlerer79** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:05 pm

Tumor wrote:?
This was a size that I personally would go for and UBZ also recommended (who knows a lot more about Zooks than I do).
Is there a reason for the 32x9.50 over the 31x9.50?

You get a tiny bit more height but mainly availability. A narrow 32" is much more common

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:32 pm

Yeah okay.
Thanks for that.

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:57 pm

I have been meaning to post this problem for a while but haven't gotten around to it: It has a very rough idle and when cold you can't just leave it, you have to have the choke out a bit. Does anyone know what this is? And would a carb rebuild fix this?

Quoting myself here, but does anyone know?

UBZ · Post by **UBZ** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:03 pm

a 32x9.5 or 235/85/16 are available at reasonable prices locally where as 31x9.5 are not a common size .
A narrower tyre is easier to turn for the Zuk and dosent eat into your turning circle .

Have you got a copy of the 413 FSM ? It will explained how to set the carb / choke up and set the float level etc .
Older carbs often leak around to the butterfly shaft or throttle body bolts . Check for leaks with a can of engine start . Most likely its leaking , dirty and/or needs a rebuild.

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:44 pm

UBZ wrote:a 32x9.5 or 235/85/16 are available at reasonable prices locally where as 31x9.5 are not a common size .
A narrower tyre is easier to turn for the Zuk and dosent eat into your turning circle .

Will it affect your turning circle with offset rims?

Have you got a copy of the 413 FSM ?

Sorry dont want to sound too dumb, but can you tell me what an FSM is?

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:04 pm

What do people think of spring over axle conversion?
Or...... Rear up front? And what is actually involved in converting the front to accept a rear leaf? I have heard/read that it give decent flex, is this true?

mercutio · Post by **mercutio** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:04 am

Tumor wrote:
UBZ wrote:
Have you got a copy of the 413 FSM ?
Sorry dont want to sound too dumb, but can you tell me what an FSM is?

FSM = factory service manual

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:37 am

my bad

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:28 pm

With the transfer case, I have decided to go with the standard 410 case for now. When I have the time/money to rocklobster it I will do so ASAP. I know a few people will disagree with this decision, but I don't want the car non-workable for too long. And because I wont be able to spend every weekend playing around with it

(coz of schoolwork).

I have been looking at rebuild kits for it, and to what I have found, there is just a rebuild kit for both the 413 and 410 case. Can people please LMK if this is right/wrong?

Cheers.

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:18 pm

Little bit of an update.

I have decided not to go with the Silverstones after all. Been reading through some tyre threads on here and have heard they wear really fast; but Simexs have really good wear (Unfortunately they are out of my financial reach........). I would also have to have an on-road set of tyre because with such an aggressive tread I can only imagine the wear no matter the brand.

So I have decided to go with a less aggressive MT. Something like the Maxxis Bighorn MT762 or MT764. On other websites 97% of people running the 762 have been really happy and some have gone onto their third set of 762s.

I like the more aggressive nature of the 764, but have read on here that they wear faster than the 762. Why might this be? Surely they can't been too much different in design apart from tread pattern. I have a friend who's dad is a Maxxis dealer here in Dunedin so getting either of them wouldn't be a problem.

mudsurfv6 · Post by **mudsurfv6** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:59 pm

Tumor wrote:I like the more aggressive nature of the 764, but have read on here that they wear faster than the 762. Why might this be?

you have just answered your own question. more aggressive = more void less rubber = less rubber on road.

unless the construction is different, both same ply though.

I have had 764s and would buy again.

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:18 pm

mudsurfv6 wrote:
you have just answered your own question. more aggressive = more void less rubber = less rubber on road.

unless the construction is different, both same ply though.

I have had 764s and would buy again.

764s it is!

Crawlerer79 · Post by **Crawlerer79** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:32 pm

Tumor wrote:764s it is!

Big question is, what size????

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:01 pm

31x10.5R15 I decided....................

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:04 pm

For the value for money etc that's the best I can afford ATM.

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:18 pm

Just got an email from TradeMe.
32x9.50/16 Super Swamper TSLs have just been re-listed for 1k. If I can find about that much in a week I'll get them. Even after reading Redsuki saying that they probably arent the best for terrain in NZ.

LMK. What would you guys do? Spend that much on 4 fairly new tyres or spend about $450-$500 more on new tyres

Crawlerer79 · Post by **Crawlerer79** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:08 am

Tumor wrote:Just got an email from TradeMe.
32x9.50/16 Super Swamper TSLs have just been re-listed for 1k. If I can find about that much in a week I'll get them. Even after reading Redsuki saying that they probably arent the best for terrain in NZ.

LMK. What would you guys do? Spend that much on 4 fairly new tyres or spend about $450-$500 more on new tyres

Really depends on whether you want that aggressiver (that a word??) tyre. I mentioned it because at the time you were looking at Silverstones and these are also a extreme mud tyre. Now that you're looking at 764s I'd be tempted to maybe stick with the 764s, just in a 235/85R16 size.... comes down to what you're gonna be mainly driving tho

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:46 pm

Yeah I think I might as well.

zukmeista · Post by **zukmeista** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:13 pm

Pretty sure that's my swampers ya looking at

Biggest challenge is finding 16" rims with suitable offset in Suzuki stud pattern

Crawlerer79 · Post by **Crawlerer79** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:30 pm

zukmeista wrote:Pretty sure that's my swampers ya looking at

Then I think I just bought your 15" high offset steelies

haha small world

zukmeista · Post by **zukmeista** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:42 pm

Crawlerer79 wrote:
zukmeista wrote:Pretty sure that's my swampers ya looking at
Then I think I just bought your 15" high offset steelies haha small world

It sure is! Hopefully they aren't delayed too much

Crawlerer79 · Post by **Crawlerer79** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:28 pm

zukmeista wrote:It sure is! Hopefully they aren't delayed too much

Haha, nope they arrived today. Very pleased thanks! Thought they had grey primer on them and that I'd end up painting them myself, but nope, already done

won't bother changing it.... looks good. Now I need some muddies to wrap around them

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:15 pm

haha small world

"No its not. There's just less init." Captain Jack Sparrow - Pirates of the Caribbean.

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:46 pm

Now that my exams are over with, as well as school for the year for me, I am now able to work and make some money!

Still cant decide between 31x10.5R15s or 30x9.50R15s........ After talking to my cousin about the offset rims I have decided to go with these http://www.4wdbits.co.nz/ProductDetails ... uctID=1395 Means it will be easier to keep it legal (because of the lesser offset). And I have found like zukmeista said that 16" rims with the 5/139.7 stud pattern is really hard to find, in fact I haven't found any.....

What tyre size SJs came with from standard? Because if 30s are quite a bit bigger I might even go with them.

Got a cosmetic idea up me sleeve to do something with the rims..... secret at the moment, I'll post a pick once I've brought them.

Anyone got any comments on ProComp shocks? Looking at these http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/suzuki-o ... ision.html.

And what is the highest spring lift I can go without having to play with driveshaft bits, etc?

Will update if I get any new ideas..............

Cheers.

zukmeista · Post by **zukmeista** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:35 am

Factory tyre size is 205/70R15, about 26". I would suggest 7' wide rims as they hold the bead better at low pressures especially if running the narrower 30x9.5s

Tumor · Post by **Tumor** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:06 pm

zukmeista wrote:Factory tyre size is 205/70R15, about 26". I would suggest 7' wide rims as they hold the bead better at low pressures especially if running the narrower 30x9.5s

Thanks for that.

4wdbits only sells the 15x7 with a +13mm offset. Is there any other companies out there that sell steel rims?

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