**HELP WANTD 4 SPRING OVER AXEL CONVERSION ON A 413**

sj-413 · Post by **sj-413** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:21 pm

HEY EVERYONE,

I HAVE SEEN A FEW SUZUKIS HAVE CHANGED TO SPRING OVER AXEL TO GIVE ALOT MORE HEIGHT,I AM LOOKING AT DOING THIS TO MY 413 AND WAS WONDERING HOW I GO ABOUT IT??IS THERE ANY AFTERMARKET PARTS I WILL NEED TO BUY OR DO I HAVE TO MODIFY ANYTHING FOR DOING THIS?? ANY HELP WOULD BE MUCH APPREICIATED

CHEERS CHRIS

icekayak · Post by **icekayak** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:27 pm

do you want to keep it road legal?

sj-413 · Post by **sj-413** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:33 pm

YEH WOULD LIKE TO GET A NEW WOF AT SUM STAGE BUT COULD DO WITH JUST LIFTING IT FOR NOW AND MAKE IT LEGAL IN THE FUTURE.. IS THERE A QUICK AND EASY WAY TO DO THIS JUST 4 USING OFFROAD??

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:37 pm

sj-413 wrote:YEH WOULD LIKE TO GET A NEW WOF AT SUM STAGE BUT COULD DO WITH JUST LIFTING IT FOR NOW AND MAKE IT LEGAL IN THE FUTURE.. IS THERE A QUICK AND EASY WAY TO DO THIS JUST 4 USING OFFROAD??

CUT AND WELD MY FRIEND...CUT AND WELD :wink:

sj-413 · Post by **sj-413** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:39 pm

CUT AND WELD WHAT THO?? I WOULDNT HAVE A CLUE WHERE TO START HAHA

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:46 pm

where you see the flat bit that the spring pack mounts to under the diff housing, cut that off and weld a new one to the top of the housing so your spring pack can sit on the top......

if you cant weld or cut then you will be paying someone a lot of money to do this well enough to get certified for road use.

icekayak · Post by **icekayak** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:47 pm

ok if you wanna make it road legal it will need to be certified (unless you have a dodgy wof guy, and realise the insurance company probably won't pay out on it if you crash into someone...) which will cost $350 minimum...

rokhound · Post by **rokhound** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:54 pm

Google in "SPOA for suzuki" and a do abit of homework before pulling anything apart.
That will give you a crash course on what you want to do.

icekayak · Post by **icekayak** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:00 pm

start reading

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ goto search and SPOA and select suzuki from the forum list...

same here:
http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/board,12.0.html

also here:
http://www.izook.com/tech/samurai/suspension/rrspoa/rrspoa.htm

Note: Samurai's/Sierras are basically same as 413's BUT there is WT and NT ones in aussi which are Wide Track and Narrow Track, most people prefer the Wide Track to do it on, and most of the older ones in nz <88 i think are all Narrow Track

sj-413 · Post by **sj-413** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:45 am

oh yep cheers guys ill do a bit of research on it and decide where to go from there...

mushroom11 · Post by **mushroom11** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:17 pm

his site will tell you what you need.all the info you need

http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=174

lilpigzuk · Post by **lilpigzuk** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:11 pm

what ever you make up for in height, make up for in width.... suzi's are good for falling over.....

faceman · Post by **faceman** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:42 pm

i had my 413 converted to spoa.
i used the same springs just add a leaf at the rear to resist axle wrap.
torque bars will do. but that will be after you have done your spoa.
longer brake lines, longer u-bolts, you will need longer shocks.
make sure the drive shaft is aligned properly before welding the spring perches.
you might need driveshaft extensions.

vando · Post by **vando** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:48 pm

If you can afford it, buy yourself a parts truck, or better yet, rolling chassis, and do the conversion on that first. then swap the bits over once you're happy. It makes things heaps easier, with much better access to all the bits and pieces, plus you can still drive your truck while you're doing the spoa. Do a rear disc conversion while you're at it. Like has been said before, get on the overseas bulletin boards and read up big time. difflock.com is another good one, English site with a bunch of helpful nutters