What should I do!!!!! help!!!!!!

[mroffroader]

Ok this is my situation......

I own the disco which is quite heavily modified and i have just bought a sj413 for $240 ......its quite rusty and needs a new transfer.

The disco ideally needs sailsbury diffs and a new winch solnoid and new and improved track rod and steering arm as i have bent the ones on it at the moment i would also like lockers, my option at the mo is to break up the suzuki for parts and use the money from doing that to modify the disco.....

or do i sell the disco and buy a runabout car/tow vehicle ($1000) id probably have around $3500-$4000 to modify the zook after i have done this and "A" frame the zook eg. cut off the roof roll cage etc etc

im only 15 and i dont really have a job so $90 is quite expensive to fill up my truck and i cant really afford to have two road legal cars which would be the disco and a run about (reg. wof. petrol etc)

so do i part out the zook and spend the money on the disco (will always beat the zook ) or do i sell it and mod the zook.....please vote on what you think i should do and post up the reason why......

i would really like to keep the disco but.........

[4wdnuts]

personally if it was me id sell the disco. then youve got a cheap 4wd and it doeant matter if you dent it up and best of all its cheap to run! but then again as you say, the disco will beatit everytime.....

[niblik]

get turoas lpg and put that in.. bingo.. cheaper to run about and a great toy.. best of both worlds...

[mroffroader]

yea but i can always put some money away for a road legal car etc......i do have a job but its not a big one....obvisouly and i really like the disco and its just so capable....just a shame the diffs are so weak.....i personally want to keep the disco but i can be purswaded by the voting....cheers

[niblik]

.just a shame the diffs are so weak.....i personally want to keep the disco

just learn how to drive it and be a bit more gentle on the driveline ( read 'less jandal') and stick to the gut feelin..

voila.. done..

[mercutio]

maybe you shoukld have kept the vitara and saved for the SAS

[kaney]

keep the disco that truck is mean!!! u could always get a job and keep the sj aswell- i doesnt have much to have it sit there as a long term project

[mroffroader]

maybe you shoukld have kept the vitara and saved for the SAS

GHEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

na like the disco to much........ i think i may part out the zook and spend the cash

[Sadam_Husain]

Its over to you top follow your gut instint, funds are obviously a significant factor but only a short term one as you'll be out in the work force before you know it and have nothing better to spend all your money on.

I grew up in landrovers and followed through with owning them myself (a couple of decades ago) but ended up following the example of a few mates and switched to landcruisers following the endless breakages. That isnt meant to sound like a plug for landcruisers, the point was I went for a stronger truck that seems to take the knocks and cope better when it gets a hard time and ultimately give me better reliability.

You've got lots of choices and don't forget you'll be owning a lot more different trucks over the years to come.

[mroffroader]

keep the disco that truck is mean!!! u could always get a job and keep the sj aswell- i doesnt have much to have it sit there as a long term project

i have a job its once a week (on a saturday) but i go to school quite far away (i spend about 2 1/2-3 hours traveling a day) trains and buses etc i cant get a job as i have no time......in the holidays i always have a good paying cashie job with people so that usually see's me through with a help from my saturday job.......i want to keep the disco and part of the zook for the $$$ and spend the $$$ modding the disco so its stronger and more capable

[Ryan]

ill buy the zuk.......

[mroffroader]

ill buy the zuk.......

answer ur cell

[Cloggy_NZ]

Ok this is my situation......

or do i sell the disco and buy a runabout car/tow vehicle ($1000) id probably have around $3500-$4000 to modify the zook after i have done this and "A" frame the zook eg. cut off the roof roll cage etc etc

What sort of reliable runabout/tow vehicle are you going to get for $1000?
For that sort of money you will end up buying someone elses problems and before you know it, half the money you intended to spend on modding the Zuk will be gobbled up by your runabout to keep it legal and going.
Your Disco will run for many more years to come. So you might blow a couple of diffs over the next couple of months, big deal. Use the money from parting out the Zuk to buy a stronger rear diff. Then 90% of your problems are solved. The other 10% are easily and cheaply solved.
Just my opinion.

[turoa]

Your Disco will run for many more years to come. So you might blow a couple of diffs over the next couple of months, big deal.

Yep hes right. I even know of someone who you can buy some 10 spline diff soff

[niblik]

look at that poll..

currently running 11 for disco vs 2 for zuk.....

[padero]

keep the disco and sell the zookie

[mroffroader]

yea ok i think i have seen enough.....15 for the disco 3 for the zook lol ...........im going to part out the zook (hopefully start stripping down this weekend ) and use the money i get for the parts to put bigger diffs in the disco (i have about 3 people with sailsburys that i know of at the mo ) i also have to straighten my steering rod and track rod at some stage and sleve them

[Cloggy_NZ]

i have about 3 people with sailsburys that i know of at the mo

Sweet!
After you have bought your one let me know about the other two so I can buy one for the front of my truck.

[toymudlux]

sorry to be dumb , what is a sailsbery diff , is it a lsd or locker, or just stronger make like molly???

[mroffroader]

sorry to be dumb , what is a sailsbery diff , is it a lsd or locker, or just stronger make like molly???

dont know much about them myself....i just know that there reasonably easy to put in a disco and there really strong (there basically the same as a Dana 60 diff) and guys in the states apparntly run redicously big tyres on them with big HP motors

[mroffroader]

i have about 3 people with sailsburys that i know of at the mo

Sweet!
After you have bought your one let me know about the other two so I can buy one for the front of my truck.

i thought u got a front and rear??? if i find a front and rear there mine otherwise it may be nissan diffs or sailsbury rear and 26 spline front for the moment

[Cloggy_NZ]

i have about 3 people with sailsburys that i know of at the mo

Sweet!
After you have bought your one let me know about the other two so I can buy one for the front of my truck.

i thought u got a front and rear??? if i find a front and rear there mine otherwise it may be nissan diffs or sailsbury rear and 26 spline front for the moment

Rear only at this stage (with 110 front diff, probably 10 spline but hoping it is 24 spline, althought the early 10 splines were meant to have stronger CV's than later 24 spline. With LR changing specs so frequently it is hard to know exactly what I am going to get, I'll find out in the weekend when I am going to collect them). Front Salisbury's are very rare and thus very expensive. That's why I am contemplating making my own using a standard Salisbury rear, cutting the axle tubes off and fitting it in place of the std Rover Banjo housing, connect the axle tubes up, get Howatt to make some custom axles and presto, one Salisbury front.
Original LR Salisbury's apparently were only fitted to a select few vehicles like armoured personel carrier 110's and some other heavy duty speced military vehicles. Some civilian High Capacity pick-up's 110 and 130 might have had them fitted as an optional extra.

[mroffroader]

now that is getting techinical ........yea im not sure what im doing at the moment......looking at all the options while i wreck the zook so i can pay for the best option

[Cloggy_NZ]

sorry to be dumb , what is a sailsbery diff , is it a lsd or locker, or just stronger make like molly???

No LSD or Locker, just an open 4 pinion diff, but as Mr O pointed out, based upon an early Dana 60 axle.
Thus any Dana 60 gears, carriers, lockers etc. can be fitted. Very strong, not unbreakable, but certainly strong enough never to have to worry about breaking one with a little Rover V8 (unless doing something really stupid).
Dana 60's are used in the States in full sized pick-up trucks. Some of these guys run 44" tyres and big blocks and these diffs seem to be up to the task.

[mroffroader]

Thus any Dana 60 gears, carriers, lockers etc. can be fitted

what does a dana 60 come out in from factory.....eg jeep or something so that when it comes time to buy lockers i can just say i want for example a rear auto locker for a jeep......

[Dak]

Sell both of them and buy a real truck, a Safari

[Cloggy_NZ]

Yes, early full-sized Jeeps (Cherokee Pick-Up), Ford F350, GMC, Chevy's, basically all the large american pick-ups.
Main difference between the LR Salisbury and those american ones is axle spline. LR has 24, most of the ones mentioned above ran 35 spline.
But anyone that makes lockers for Dana also seems to make them for LR.

[turoa]

Thus any Dana 60 gears, carriers, lockers etc. can be fitted

what does a dana 60 come out in from factory.....eg jeep or something so that when it comes time to buy lockers i can just say i want for example a rear auto locker for a jeep......

They come out in so many different things its not funny. The only thing is that you may have to get different shafts made ($120??) to suit a bigger side gear, but thats no problem because it makes it better. YOu can get lockers for a rover salisbury though.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavist ... index.html

[Cloggy_NZ]

Sell both of them and buy a real truck, a Safari

Yes, Safari's are very solid trucks, hardly ever hear of them breaking anything. I even considered buying one before I bought the Disco. That is until I drove one my mate had just bought as a tow vehicle for his rallycar. I couldn't believe the lack of get up and go out of an engine that size (normally aspirated 4.2 diesel). It was gutless. Then there was the lack of room, the centre console/transmission tunnel is the size of a small office block, leaving little room for the front seat passengers, the back seat passengers in a SWB are even worse of with the way the rear guards protrude into the cabin. Very hard to fix those faults. At least in a Discovery you have room to move, most of them seat 7 people, and the only real weak link in them, the diffs, are easily sorted.
Each to their own of course but I am very happy with my Disco. It does everything I need it to do.

[Disconewhere]

Hey MrO

There are arguably better solutions than running Salisburys, The Salisbury is big and strong but your gonna loose clearance under your diffs. For the time and coin involved you could put a locker in the back and some 24 spline axles out of a later disco or a 110 and that would be a strong setup but of course still breakable. The front can be done with a little more effort but will be more reliable in standard form than the rear on big tyres, mine lasted fine on 33s. I've got the same model disco as you running 35s, it's been sweet with the right mods and I've kept the clearance under the diffs, which is one of the landys advantages over the likes of safaris. Hope that helps you, if you have any questions just pm me.