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Why is the 350 chev so popular in the FJ40's? Is there another v8 that performs whel off road and easy to install. I want to stay back to basics re: fuel injectors abd don't want too much electronics
350 vhev + FJ40
Well you cant get much more basic than a 350 Chev.
Any thing with injection involves a little electronics..but if you go for a carbed one with say a 400 Holley & an HEI type dizzy its a breeze.
Good thing about a 350 chev is you get so many after market bits for them..it you put the right bits in you can get 600 horses out of it no problem...but you wont want to go that far...350 horses is easily enough as if you have too much power youll only snap axles etc all the time.
Any thing with injection involves a little electronics..but if you go for a carbed one with say a 400 Holley & an HEI type dizzy its a breeze.
Good thing about a 350 chev is you get so many after market bits for them..it you put the right bits in you can get 600 horses out of it no problem...but you wont want to go that far...350 horses is easily enough as if you have too much power youll only snap axles etc all the time.
the chev is more popular due to the dizzy placement, it right at the back and on top of the engine so its well out of the way of water and shit. and as above there is so many parts available for them.
and they sound better than ford motors
and fords dizzys are right at the fron where it can get snotted with shit
and they sound better than ford motors
and fords dizzys are right at the fron where it can get snotted with shitIf you already know everything, DON'T ask bloody questions!!
Plus Ford Windsor engines lose conrods much easier than Chev's as they have tiny rod bolts. You could go to a Ford Cleveland, but then you'd want the 4V model with the large valves. But these large valves are prone to mushrooming at high rpm's.
You could go with Mopar, but parts are harder to find and more expensive.
Stick with the Chev. More races (in any form of motorsport) have been won with a Chev engine than any other engine. For good reason :thumright:
You could go with Mopar, but parts are harder to find and more expensive.
Stick with the Chev. More races (in any form of motorsport) have been won with a Chev engine than any other engine. For good reason :thumright:
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tgaguy1 wrote:I have a kit included in this lot on trade me. PM me if you want more info.
[url]http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=94461377.
Dizzy is short for distributor, which all the spark plug wires come out of.
Jason.[/url]
ahh i wondered who had all that stuff for sale, good bit of gear there dude,lots of bits that i need as well
If you already know everything, DON'T ask bloody questions!!
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4WDbits wrote:Chevs are great for cheapish parts. You can get a 1UZ (4.2 Lexus V8) with auto and computer ready to run for $1650 ish. Light and powerful. I've seen the stock block withstand 1000hp over extended runs.
I looked at a Lexus. Very good bang for your buck I recon. I mean, $1600 is awesome! My 2002 LS1 5.7 complete stung me $6000!! But I think it was money well spent.
The 1UZFE is only 4.0L but still puts out about 190KW at the crank which is reasonable. They are a very reliable and durable motor, they were designed for the Lexus range so they will take lots of punishment and go for ages. Break something just replace the whole motor.
If you find one complete with intact loom and AFM, ignitors and ECU you will pay at least $1600 then on top of that you might want to do cambelt, idlers and waterpump etc which will do you about $400 plus then you need to get someone to wire it in.
An auto sparky will charge about $1k to fully wire in a stock computer including gauges etc so everything will work.
So about 3k then you need a high pressure fuel pump and filter, radiator and exhaust and all the other bits and bobs.
You will need most of that done on any swap though except the wiring of a carb'd engine is pretty straight forward.
Matt.
If you find one complete with intact loom and AFM, ignitors and ECU you will pay at least $1600 then on top of that you might want to do cambelt, idlers and waterpump etc which will do you about $400 plus then you need to get someone to wire it in.
An auto sparky will charge about $1k to fully wire in a stock computer including gauges etc so everything will work.
So about 3k then you need a high pressure fuel pump and filter, radiator and exhaust and all the other bits and bobs.
You will need most of that done on any swap though except the wiring of a carb'd engine is pretty straight forward.
Matt.
lexus v8 is a sweet running motor but you get f all torque compared to a chev, and the lexus motor is wider than a chev,but all the lexus needs is a good free flowing exhaust system don,t even think about running stock exh manifolds as they are complete crap and don,t flow anywhere near the motors potential . a link computer is another way instead of stock comp only need 1/2 doz wires and ready to rock
The Lexus weighs less than most 4cyl diesel iron motors so you get an excellent weight balance.
Factory rates the torque at 260 ft/lb which is a little less than what you might get out of a 5.8L Chev it's still generally ton's more than what the original motor was putting out.
The main problem with the torque is that it's generated at 4400rpm which is quite high up the rev range compared to most V8's.
As Sig said a good exhaust and a Link ECU will help sort that out a bit though and if you run an auto that will also help.
Still can't see how for the cost/power/weight you can go past these motor's.
Matt.
Factory rates the torque at 260 ft/lb which is a little less than what you might get out of a 5.8L Chev it's still generally ton's more than what the original motor was putting out.
The main problem with the torque is that it's generated at 4400rpm which is quite high up the rev range compared to most V8's.
As Sig said a good exhaust and a Link ECU will help sort that out a bit though and if you run an auto that will also help.
Still can't see how for the cost/power/weight you can go past these motor's.
Matt.
Mattman wrote:The Lexus weighs less than most 4cyl diesel iron motors so you get an excellent weight balance.
Factory rates the torque at 260 ft/lb which is a little less than what you might get out of a 5.8L Chev it's still generally ton's more than what the original motor was putting out.
The main problem with the torque is that it's generated at 4400rpm which is quite high up the rev range compared to most V8's.
As Sig said a good exhaust and a Link ECU will help sort that out a bit though and if you run an auto that will also help.
Still can't see how for the cost/power/weight you can go past these motor's.
Matt.
I recon Matt. Another thing. What if you cook one? At $1600 a pop sounds better than $6000 a pop?
I'm just lucky that I had a flexiable budget to afford a chevy. The second choice was Lexus.
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petefj40 wrote:FJ40Boy wrote:I'll keep an eye out for the V8's. Where does everyone get there softtops made, are there places in NZ?
I'd like to know to.
Think this is about the third time I have posted this but look up Marine upholstery/trimmers in your area - they will custom make a tough beasty for you at cheaper than factory prices
Re: 350 vhev + FJ40
FJ40Boy wrote:Hozit going.
Why is the 350 chev so popular in the FJ40's? Is there another v8 that performs whel off road and easy to install. I want to stay back to basics re: fuel injectors abd don't want too much electronics
Personally I think you're better off to stay injected so then you have to have a computer. In my short experience of transplanting a injected chevy V8 I was told by my HSV mechanic the stock computer (setup correctly) CPU runs at a faster rate than say a Links computer system. So keep it simple and stay stock. Not only does it sample faster it is also better to tune up (in the right hands). Oh yeah, it sounds sweet to start up compared to the Links start up mode. That's a joke.
So after all that feedback what are your thoughts now?
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FJ40Boy wrote:Makes sense, there is a few lexus v8's on trade me but without the computer and no loom. how do you run them the? what is the loom? can you buy looms and computers somewhere cheap. I'm keen on the lexus as I fully believe in TOYOTA.
If your budget allows it, go for an injected chevy mate. Not only do they sound better they put out way more low down grunt at low revs. To get low down grunt from the Lexus you have to have the revs up to high like 4500rpm is it max torque and there isn't alot of it. The injected chevy blows the Lexus away, end of story.
If you keep an eye on trademe you will find complete motors with ECU's and uncut looms, there was one on there the other night for $1500 I think.
The Lexus motor is a great motor for the medium vehicles. You can't beat the power output of the injected 5.7L motors but they also come at a premium.
For what you spend on a 5.7 you could have a built Lexus motor with cam's, exhaust, aftermarket ECU and a day's dyno tuning which would give you a strong motor. The speedway guys are revving these to 10k!!
IMHO, the 304 injected motor is too heavy and doesn't make enough power to be worth considering. The Lexus makes the same power, although the torque is slightly higher up the rev range, the motor is much lighter and generally cheaper.
Anyway, at the end of the day ANY V8 beats any other motor!! Can't beat the rumble and grunt of a V8.
Matt.
The Lexus motor is a great motor for the medium vehicles. You can't beat the power output of the injected 5.7L motors but they also come at a premium.
For what you spend on a 5.7 you could have a built Lexus motor with cam's, exhaust, aftermarket ECU and a day's dyno tuning which would give you a strong motor. The speedway guys are revving these to 10k!!
IMHO, the 304 injected motor is too heavy and doesn't make enough power to be worth considering. The Lexus makes the same power, although the torque is slightly higher up the rev range, the motor is much lighter and generally cheaper.
Anyway, at the end of the day ANY V8 beats any other motor!! Can't beat the rumble and grunt of a V8.
Matt.