MISSILE ENGINE UPGRADE

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:15 pm

looks interesting mate, gonna use mine for now, its pretty mint and just had the treatment so should be cool

in the garage fitting stuff up at the mo, have the bellhousing,flywheel,clutch etc

but now i have come to a stall as i had forgotten about the spigot bearing issue....cant remember what the go is there

anyone ?

Sadam_Husain · Post by **Sadam_Husain** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:43 pm

Spigot....???? :scratch:

It may depend on what bell housing your using and how far the end of the input shaft goes into the crank? My crank had a couple of bushes in the end of it, one at about 12mm the same size as the end of a petrol gearbox input shaft and another bush inside that to neck it down to a diesel inputshaft (my engine origionaly had a diesel gearbox hanging off it). I removed the diesel bush and my input shaft fitted into the second bush snugly and at the right depth.

My mate had one he was doing at the same time for somebody else with a chev bell housing and homemade adaptor plate and he turned up a bush to hold a std cruiser spigot bearing inside the wide opening in the rear of the crank, the part thats about 50mm or so

You probably want to see how deep your input shaft goes into the back of the crank before you work out the best way to do it?

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:49 pm

got the graham berry racing bellhousing. the end of my crank has no bushes in it whatsoever, so might be a quick trip into work tomorrow to spin up a bush to take the cruiser spigot bearing.

Sadam_Husain · Post by **Sadam_Husain** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:55 pm

:thumright:

just give the input shaft a good measure up first to find out exactually how far it goes into the crank to get the bush at the right place... I'm pretty sure there'll be lots of depth left to fill with grease behind the bush to keep some lube in there

Sadam_Husain · Post by **Sadam_Husain** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:08 pm

I just whipped the gearbox out of my truck to get you to get a better shot of the back of my crank :wink:

I'm just using the bush you can see in the end of the crank, the engine had been in a 40 series crusier for 22 years before I got it and there didn't appear to be any problem with using the bush and not a bearing

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:23 pm

Sadam_Husain wrote:I just whipped the gearbox out of my truck to get you to get a better shot of the back of my crank

I'm just using the bush you can see in the end of the crank, the engine had been in a 40 series crusier for 22 years before I got it and there didn't appear to be any problem with using the bush and not a bearing

Bush would be less likely to fail through seizure from exposure to mud :wink:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:02 am

well its nearly 3am and the gearbox/T.case is back in....mostly.

have measured up the to make the bush and its
15mm id
27.5 od
and about 10mm deep

so thats tomorrows job,then pop the engine in the hole and bolt it all up

then back to the wiring

BlackCruiser · Post by **BlackCruiser** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:54 pm

wopass wrote:well its nearly 3am and the gearbox/T.case is back in....mostly.

have measured up the to make the bush and its
15mm id
27.5 od
and about 10mm deep

so thats tomorrows job,then pop the engine in the hole and bolt it all up

then back to the wiring

The truck your gear came from had a bush, been there for years with no probs

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:16 pm

well after spending most of the day on/under it, the engine and box are all bolted together and in the cruiser.....

few issues on the way, engine way to close to firewall with it on origanal mounts so.... move the lot forward by about 3-4 inches to give clearance from fire wall and room for my dizzy :wink:

heres the box

heres the clearance underneath

heres the passenger side bellhousing mount mooved forward

and the long shot

so onto make/modding the bellhousing and box crossmember mounts to make them all fit nice and strong

then measure the drive shafts up because now with moving everything forward they wont be right anymore, then back to wiring..... and fitting my BLING bits :wink:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:58 am

forgot to mention that on saturday evening i roared (in the Phatsun) up to meet a couple of top blokes out west of auckland (franklin) and get my bellhousing,clutch,flywheel etc. :thumright:

cheers to Blackcruiser (forgot your name sorry mate

) and Brian good to meet you guys and have a beer :wink:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:55 pm

small progress, passenger bellhousing mount is bolted up and after a bit of welding tomorrow the drivers side bellhousing mount will be ready to go back in

to do list

get my drive shafts adjusted as they now dont fit
make throttle cable bracket
finish the wiring
bleed brakes up
re-fit chassis crossmember for the rear diff brace
make/mount battery box
plumb up the powersteer
fit the panels and radiator and other pipes
plumb up the radiator
put tunnel cover back on and re fit seats
fit my bling parts

then get the beast running and take a video of it :twisted:

what have i missed ?

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Tue May 01, 2007 12:21 am

just wondering, seeing as you have to move the engine and gearbox combo forward a bit to clear the firewall, will you relocate the gear lever holes in the floor or modify the levers to come back and through the same original fittings? cant remember if ya wrote it already... also, whats the go with the fuel pump? she'll handle the extra? i know the old motor was a bit thirsty but thought i'd enquire..

she's lookin real good fella and comin along great guns.. :mrgreen:

now stop playin with the engine mounts and get back to the wiring.. you know you love it.. :wink:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:08 am

gear stick holes i have cut bigger and will cover up when its all cool,fuel pump is the mechanical pump on the chev so that should be sweet.

wiring....yea love it with a passion...... a sick kind of love......

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Tue May 01, 2007 11:38 pm

got my mounts done tonight so thought i would spend some time making it cool on the top

mounts

and now for the coolness

RAD ! ! !

NOW BACK TO THE WIRING TOMORROW NIGHT :cry:

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Tue May 01, 2007 11:46 pm

V. Kool

I like that shiat :twisted:

Mounts should be way strong enough!!!!

Dizzies on, have ya timed it too??

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:59 pm

BLING 8)

Nice work... now hurry up with the startup vid huh?

wopass wrote:

SMOKEY · Post by **SMOKEY** » Wed May 02, 2007 3:41 pm

Racking my brain ,but can't think of a opposite word for MUDGUARD, which is the name given to things that are SHINY on top and SHITTY underneath, but when I do the word will fit your MISSILE, :idea:

.

YOU ONLY NEED THREE WIRERS,------- STOP, GO & FASTER.

FITZY.

PS: good to see you got sorted with bellhousing etc: my one can sit on the shelf and might take pride of place in the 70# yet, :wink:

.

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Wed May 02, 2007 4:06 pm

SupraLux wrote:BLING 8)

Nice work... now hurry up with the startup vid huh?

im getting there mate, few things to do before that happens, i have a grand plan for my start up vid

and cheers SMOKEY your praise means a lot to me :lol:

and your right about the bling covering the shit :wink:

best you find a small block to drop into your 70 so you can take that bellhousing off the shelf :twisted:

and i need more than 3 wires, one to get it going

and 200 for everything else

Sadam_Husain · Post by **Sadam_Husain** » Wed May 02, 2007 4:55 pm

4 weeks to pull the 2F and box out, rip out all the steering, setup the new 60 series power steering, re-wire the thing, stick the chev and auto in, rip the chev and auto back out, search and locate a manual bell housing and flywheel, sort out the clutch and spigot, stick the chev back in and make new gearbox (and engine?) mounts, stick shiney bling stuff all over it ready for a start up....

..... your timeframe's way out going by all the other projects going on around the forum :shock:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Wed May 02, 2007 7:18 pm

Sadam_Husain wrote:4 weeks to pull the 2F and box out, rip out all the steering, setup the new 60 series power steering, re-wire the thing, stick the chev and auto in, rip the chev and auto back out, search and locate a manual bell housing and flywheel, sort out the clutch and spigot, stick the chev back in and make new gearbox (and engine?) mounts, stick shiney bling stuff all over it ready for a start up....

..... your timeframe's way out going by all the other projects going on around the forum

yea i kinda slow on this one.... :roll:

only took me 4 weeks (i think it was)to completely build the PHAATSUN,commy 3.8V6 engine/trans/driveshaft/rear end assembly/shifter/console/dash and wiring and certed on the road.... that was a mish :shock:

this one is taking waaayyyy too long

.... and im about 2 weeks from finishing it for start up !....what the hell am i doing in here typing this drivell ! i should be in the garage welding and wiring etc ! !.......

bye bye :wink:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Wed May 02, 2007 7:26 pm

Sadam_Husain wrote:4 weeks to pull the 2F and box out, rip out all the steering, setup the new 60 series power steering, re-wire the thing, stick the chev and auto in, rip the chev and auto back out, search and locate a manual bell housing and flywheel, sort out the clutch and spigot, stick the chev back in and make new gearbox (and engine?) mounts, stick shiney bling stuff all over it ready for a start up....

..... your timeframe's way out going by all the other projects going on around the forum

ohhh and you forgot the brake booster firewall mod and pipes and hoses associated with it :wink:

and chassis work thats gone on in the meantime....

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:11 pm

started on the zaust tonight, have the drivers side all tacked up.

not as high as i wanted to get it but theres a floor in the way :roll:

NJV6 · Post by **NJV6** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:17 pm

Are you going to manage to get a ballancing pipe in? They soung much nicer.....

NJ

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:22 pm

NJV6 wrote:Are you going to manage to get a ballancing pipe in? They soung much nicer.....

NJ

not sure yet, be a lot of shagging round to do it, maybe at this stage.... see what it sounds like without it first then if it sounds like arse then ill have to do it

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:33 pm

It'l sound stink aww

Nice job though, who did the kool kinky bend from the manifold out over the chassis??? Looks mean :shock:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:51 pm

DieselBoy wrote:It'l sound MEAN

Nice job though, who did the kool kinky bend from the manifold out over the chassis??? Looks mean

formed bends cut and tacked at just the right spot to make it look primo and be clear of the chassis and fire wall rib :wink:

then head off down the side into my multi tube bits to get it from 2" up to 3" with a slip join so its all removable for repairs :roll:

you can inspect it tomorrow night when you come to help :wink:

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Fri May 04, 2007 7:11 am

I like the sound of twin pipes with no balancer or X. It sounds cool

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Sun May 06, 2007 9:59 pm

finaly managed to get it uploaded to you tube :roll:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KHO5ISnu9Ws

funny as shit with me doin the comentary etc

:lol:

ROCK THE BOAT !

love it

lilpigzuk · Post by **lilpigzuk** » Sun May 06, 2007 10:01 pm

farkin funny Ben, love it :lol:

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Sun May 06, 2007 10:07 pm

oh hell yeah baby!!!

LOVIN IT!!!!

commentary is a beautiful thing too... :lol:

man thats sweet... and as for the rest of the wiring.. who gives a damn!! :twisted:

rock that boat !!!!