FRONT DIFF

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:44 pm

well, after breaking the front output shaft a few weeks ago in my FJ40 and repairing it only to have the problem rear its ugly head again on our jaunt over to rotovegas

we had it narrowed to the front driveshaft over angle'ing...or so we thought :shock:

.... i have just come in from the garage after removing the front driveshaft to find that the problem is actually IN the front diff itself :evil:

and only turning in reverse from the pinion so... watch this space for more of the story to unfold over te next little while...

hopefully i will have my camer repaired/replaced so as to take some pics of the mess in my garage :wink:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:31 pm

pretty good morning for the cruiser, WOF and REG done

...then pulled the diff out of the beast and found the cause of all the problems :shock:

spider gear pin lock bolt broken off and pin floating around picking up on pinion,spider gears damaged and thrust washers munted... pretty shiny bits all thru the diff... not tooo flash, will be looking for a complete diff head to throw in i think,might be pushing to find the bits i need to fix mine

pinky · Post by **pinky** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:50 pm

yep i know how how you fell

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:18 pm

still looking for a front diff for the cruiser if anyone has a spare or knows of anyone who may have one. can get one from the wreckers here for $250+gst but the missuz would shit bricks if i spent that....thats the last resort if i cant find one privatly....

any help or info welcome :wink:

hosehustler · Post by **hosehustler** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:40 pm

can't understand you blokes, have offered the at $150 (cheap) still no PM's :?:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:18 pm

hosehustler wrote:can't understand you blokes, have offered the at $150 (cheap) still no PM's

thats for pinky..hilux diff WAY TOOOO SMALL for me... :wink:

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:37 pm

Tim, I think from talking to Pinky that he may have a 4.5 in the back end, so that may be why...

Croozer diffs are like cruise ship anchors - you could fit 4 or 5 Hilux diffs in a 40 axle and still have room for a party

Steve

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:29 pm

SupraLux wrote:
Croozer diffs are like cruise ship anchors - you could fit 4 or 5 Hilux diffs in a 40 axle and still have room for a party

Steve

hahhahha.... yeap,build em big,build em strong :wink:

as far as im aware,thats the first time in its life of harsh treatment(nearly 36yrs now) that its ever been out. thats not bad

still need to find one for cheep cheep...cheep cheep

muddy · Post by **muddy** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:10 am

There's a fella down here just out of Blenheim (Wairau Valley) who's got both 4.1 and 3.7 diffs (no housing) says he wants $100 for one. Not sure what the freight would cost though... Give him a ring if you're interested 03-5722543

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:28 pm

Aren't you off down to wellington at some stage soon??
Get him to throw it on the ferry and bring it back with you!!!

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:31 pm

im in wellingtron now yea, will give him a bell and see. could be an option

...either that or i weld the one i have and put it in the back and swap the good back one out and fit in the front. then i have a locked rear :twisted:

and a good open front..... Hmmmmm descisions descisions...

cheers for the heads up muddy :wink:

klompy · Post by **klompy** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:15 pm

What model cruiser is it Wopy and what ratio.Might be one in vegas.

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:30 pm

klompy wrote:What model cruiser is it Wopy and what ratio.Might be one in vegas.

there is only one model of cruiser that can truely be called a missile...
:wink:

FJ40, 4.1 ratio

klompy · Post by **klompy** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:53 pm

I'll see if one mate has the whole diff and also another mate should have just the crownwheel carrier as we changed it to slippery.That was a 55 series thou.

eatenfuller · Post by **eatenfuller** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:34 am

FJS HAD A 4.11:1 FINE SPLINE AND A 4.11:1 CORSE SPLINE WHICH IS YOURES YOUNG MAN?

klompy · Post by **klompy** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:31 pm

Wopass will PM a phone number for a guy in Rotorua.

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:46 pm

eatenfuller wrote::wink: FJS HAD A 4.11:1 FINE SPLINE AND A 4.11:1 CORSE SPLINE WHICH IS YOURES YOUNG MAN?

THAT..is a really good question...im not sure,will do a spline count when i get home.

suzolla · Post by **suzolla** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:23 pm

Hi Ben, thought you said it was the same as a Hilux as you have got Hilux half shafts when you did the brake conversion.
Tim

eatenfuller · Post by **eatenfuller** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:52 pm

ANOTHER THING THAT IVE NOTICED THAT NO ONES ASKED .......IS IT FULL FLOAT OR SEMI :?:

Jungle · Post by **Jungle** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:23 pm

I didn't think you had semi or full float for a front diff? I thought all front diffs were full float (no clips holding axle's into diff head)
Even if you pick up a rear semi float diff it will still work in the front, maybe. I've got a rear semi float spare diff head. Might have to have a look. Whats the going rate?
G

eatenfuller · Post by **eatenfuller** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:16 pm

semi and full float axles have different diamaters.

Jungle · Post by **Jungle** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:24 pm

Will be same spline though if its fine spline. And its not like your worried about axle diameter when your not using the axles. :?:

G

eatenfuller · Post by **eatenfuller** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:31 pm

:salut:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:45 pm

suzolla wrote:Hi Ben, thought you said it was the same as a Hilux as you have got Hilux half shafts when you did the brake conversion.
Tim

ok, yes completely right,it is the same spline as mid 80's hilux as i have the hilux disk conversion and the axels slipped right on in.

rear is semi floater set up :evil:

wish i had a full floater...,same diff head just different axel capture system.

as for the amount of money i will spend to get another one.... as little as possible,im a broke arse with a new baby in the house and a missuz that aint back at work yet :cry:

.....

if you have one,pm me and tell me how much you want for it and i will let you know if its in my budget...not that i have a budget but hey,,, what she dont know wont hurt her :wink:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:41 pm

ok

total change in plan of attack...

rear diff being put into front, front diff being put into back and welded. cheapest option available to me.

cheers to averybody with contacts and info but im going to have to wait until i can throw money at it before i buy a diff

.... ahh well, having a welded rear aint so bad :twisted:

bring on the skids :twisted:

DJ · Post by DJ » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:10 pm

just before you attack the spyder gears with the glueing sticks have you got any lead??
melt it down and pour it in between the gears .. old stock car trick... seams to be easier on the gears less tendance to crack the gear set and reheat the lead and the gears are able to be removed. Lead cushions the impact not as hard on every thing. Just a thought and it works. If you get stuck give me a yell Ill weld the sucker in for ya :roll:

cheers DJ

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:18 pm

one of my good mates is the welding supervisor/guru of electric bolts at the power station where i work so should be sweet. cheers for the offer tho mate :wink:

and with the cruiser rear being a semi floater it really has to be done in place with the keeper pin being damaged as well it will also need to be welded in :evil:

.. gonna be fun :wink:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:16 pm

how much progress can i make when staying home from work one day(today)to look after the missuz who is down with the flu :shock:

LOTS

have the rear swapped out and bits changed over,and into the front and all boxed up,have the damaged one ready and awaiting the welding treatment in the rear

...

have also taken the manual fan off the beast and put my electric one on as it is so much nicer to drive and actually performs better :wink:

quieter as well under the hood, makes the roaring exhaust even sweeter :twisted:

will see how it cools on the trail

if no good i can pop the manual fan back on in a flash :wink:

bring on the welder :twisted:

matwelli · Post by **matwelli** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:53 pm

good to hear you put a "sicky" to good use :wink:

will be interesting to see how your truck goes on the tarmac with a locked rear diff, I had a skyline a few years back and due to a lack of funds when I blew the diff, welded it up and drove it like that for about 2 months( every intersection and wet day was an adventure). will be interesting with the bigger off road tyres.

Jungle · Post by **Jungle** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:50 am

Oh yeah!!! You'll be amazed how many times when your out in the bush and your tying to back up out of some ruts and around a corner and that locked diff just wants to drag you straight backwards.
Good fun.

G

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