Cheap Winchs 9500lbs $400 made in china

minefield · Post by **minefield** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:11 am

Hi all ,

Over time everthing seams to made in China and the quality is getting better.

I have been given a site for winches you can order direct from China the prices are to good to pass up. I am ordering a 12000lbs winch with wireless remote cost delivered to NZ $420 plus duty.

info@greatwinch.com

There is the email address I would post photos of the winches if I new how

Graham

kiwitonita · Post by **kiwitonita** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:15 am

Thanks Graham, this looks like the site:

http://greatwinch.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/58274607/Sell_BSW12000_4WD_ELECTRIC_WINCH.html

Single Line Rated Pull: 12000Lb
Motor: 6.0hp / 12 Volt Series Wound
Control: Remote Switch; 12' ( 3.7m ) lead
Gear Train: 3-Stage Planetary
Gear Ratio: 265: 1
Clutch: Sliding Ring Gear
Brake: Automatic In - the - Drum
Drum Size: Diameter 2.52" ( 64 mm ) Length 8.82" ( 224 mm )
Wire Rope: 87' x 3/8" Diameter ( 26 m x 9.5 mm Diameter )
Fairlead: 4 - way Roller Fairlead
Remote Control: Included
Recommended Battery: 650 CCA minimun for winching
Battery Leads: 25 square mm x 1.83 m
Finish: Gray
Overall Dimensions: 21.3" (L) x 6.3" (W) x 8.6" (H)

minefield · Post by **minefield** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:22 am

You have got the right site there are three differant models , I am waiting for my reply on payment detail;s
Graham

spanky · Post by **spanky** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:23 am

will be interesting to see how it goes and lasts,i myself dont like the shit from china cause there is no back up or parts if it does break and even being made by a 6 year old that price is very cheap , keep us informed how it goes.
vaughan

minefield · Post by **minefield** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:45 am

I live in Picton and I deal with the local engineering shop they bought the 9500lbs this was going to be used to pull boats a ramp in the sounds , As I said there three models the too top models are water proof the cheaper one is not.

It was the cheaper one that he bought and he striped it down to check it out and gave it the thumbs up said it was as solid as a rock everything was over sized.

I have dealt with this engineering shop for a long time and I respect his judgment I have ordered the waterproof one

One other thing I was at the winch challange at Refton there was one there and I was talking to the owner said he has had no problems

Graham

tgaguy1 · Post by **tgaguy1** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:06 am

They sound alright. If interested parties were to piggy an order onto your order, would this help out with the cost of freight/customs etc?
For that kind of money winches are almost becoming a disposable piece of equipment.
Keep us posted.

Cheers.

Smurf · Post by **Smurf** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:17 am

I'd be in for one of these if a bulk order was possible

Post by **mike** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:41 am

tgaguy1 wrote:They sound alright. If interested parties were to piggy an order onto your order, would this help out with the cost of freight/customs etc?
For that kind of money winches are almost becoming a disposable piece of equipment.
Keep us posted.

Cheers.

I would have to agree with you there about being disposable :wink:

I might have to get one of these, I was looking at one of those come up winches but at over double the price AND no wireless remote I think these are looking better.

Perhaps a bulk order can be done through ore. Just a thought, easy payment to here and one payment to them and one shipment back here, then courier out I guess.

Mike

Post by **Mark** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:51 am

Even my dusty wallet may open up for this. It's worth a crack at that price.

PR · Post by PR » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:02 am

I have asked them if they make the 12000lbs waterproof one in a 24v model :wink:

I will let you know what there reply is

Swaney · Post by **Swaney** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:28 am

I looked at getting in the outback 12000lbs one but greatwinch would only do them in a mini pallet of 10 for the first order and pallets of 20 and each order there after.

Cost was $250USD landed in NZ plus tax + customs. From memory it worked out to about $400 each winch.

Was going try flick a few through trademe. Although had heard some scary stories from a mate who tried to do something similar (although not with this company or winches) about stuff not turning up after payment was made. And i was skeptical of the quality and decided not to commit to 10.

So I ended up getting the basic (non water proof) 7200lbs model off some guy on trademe for $395, thought id give that the death and if it worked ok then id look at going for the water proofed 12000lbs and putting them on TM.

I figured if the winch is going to live in the back of the truck and the solenoid is going to live under the dash so in theory it shouldnt be drowned in water for an excessive amount of time. Will also spray the winch with a silicon spray where it is bolted together. Although the manual says if water gets inside the motor let it dry out and then it will work again - but i dont particularly want to prove / find this out.

Oh greatwinch do some pretty spiffy hydraulic ones too.

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:12 pm

I'd be interested to know if you can order single winches from them. I went through this process a couple of years back and got orders from a heap of people on the site for them so decided to bring 10 in (their minimum order) - problem was when they arrived I got no takers from all those that said they would... which meant I had 10 winches sitting here with no homes :shock:

I'd get deposits or pre-payments before you bring a quantity in

Oh, and on parts - I would be surprised if you couldn't use parts from other Chinese winches to fix them if you needed to - as many of the winches look the same and are probably all made from the same tooling anyway.

The only problems I have heard people having with the Chinese ones are water-related - strip and waterproof the winch before using it - maybe look at adding breathers and perhaps positively pressurise them with a couple of pounds of air...

Steve

Swaney · Post by **Swaney** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:20 pm

SupraLux wrote:Oh, and on parts - I would be surprised if you couldn't use parts from other Chinese winches to fix them if you needed to - as many of the winches look the same and are probably all made from the same tooling anyway.
Steve

Apparently they get shipped with spare parts including replacement instructions and tool kits.

minefield · Post by **minefield** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:24 pm

I have ordered a EW 12000lbs 24V winch the EW is the water proof model its going to be $416 plus any import duty I have also told them I don't want the wire rope as I will put on sinthetic rope it may also save in the freight, I confurmed the order last night and still waiting for comformation on how the money is to be paid , It should be there when I get home

I'll Keep averyone informed

Graham

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:32 pm

Yep, I'd be keen for one for the Prado, agree with above get payment beforehand, perhaps ORE Assn can help and look after the $$$ and maybe can help people drip feed $$$ into this for it?.

I know Cloggy would be keen on one as well....and a few other welly guys.....

Perhaps get it landed and then see what its like......there are also the Runva ones as well???

Even my dusty wallet may open up for this. It's worth a crack at that price.

Don't forget to get permission from Handbrake before spending her $$$ :lol:

minefield · Post by **minefield** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:51 pm

There is a EW 9500lbs on trade me for sale$765 as I said the EW is the water proof model at least you can see what it looks like. go to engine parts page 17

Graham

PigFmr · Post by **PigFmr** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:55 pm

i was going to get one later on but at that price i would be keen to get one

vince

rowinz · Post by **rowinz** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:39 pm

I'm definitely keen for one if there's gonna be a bulk buy. If not then I will order individually (depending on the "+duty" cost.
R

billyvanboheman · Post by **billyvanboheman** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:13 pm

I can check on the + duty costs, we have a customs brokering branch at work,.
From my dealings with importing from china in the past, best to pay the all inclusive freight costs in one hit to the supplier, seems to be the cheapest method, then just worry about the duty and GST at this end, I will run it past our guys here and see what sort of idea on cost they can give me.

Payment to China is always a bit nerve racking, last time I paid $5000.00 US, took a couple of days but all was confirmed, phew :!:

Swaney · Post by **Swaney** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:18 pm

Automotive winches have a duty exclusion. You have to make sure you get the right code for it but your customs broker will do that for you.

So it is the cost of a customs broker (approx $80) and GST only.

TJ · Post by TJ » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:33 pm

Let me get this straight (before I commit myself as this is sounding tempting), if we do a bulk buy of 10 winches then:

- Winch C&F price: NZD 420 per winch
- Plus Custom brokerage portion: NZD 8 (assumign 10 buyers)
- Plus GST: NZD 53.50 per winch

This gives a rough price (bar forex fluctuations) of NZD 481.50. This would not include local freight to get them distributed to whoever ordered from wherever in NZ.

This is for the winch including the wire and accessories shown on the webpage?

timotheus · Post by **timotheus** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:35 pm

SupraLux wrote:Oh, and on parts - I would be surprised if you couldn't use parts from other Chinese winches to fix them if you needed to - as many of the winches look the same and are probably all made from the same tooling anyway.Steve

I spent a long time on http://www.madeinchina.com and found heaps of winches all the same spec, size, and jazz. Just different stickers from the distributor.

Swaney · Post by **Swaney** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:35 pm

TJ wrote:Let me get this straight (before I commit myself as this is sounding tempting), if we do a bulk buy of 10 winches then:

- Winch C&F price: NZD 420 per winch
- Plus Custom brokerage portion: NZD 8 (assumign 10 buyers)
- Plus GST: NZD 53.50 per winch

This gives a rough price (bar forex fluctuations) of NZD 481.50. This would not include local freight to get them distributed to whoever ordered from wherever in NZ.

This is for the winch including the wire and accessories shown on the webpage?

Yep that is correct. - should work out to approx ~$400NZD including gst / broker fee.

It is $250USD Landed per winch. So what ever that works out to plus GST (12.5%) and then yes a portion of the customs broker fee ($8)

And the $80 that the custom broker charges includes freight to someones place / storage if it is in CHCH city.

Post by **Mark** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:50 pm

Swaney wrote:It is $250USD Landed per winch. So what ever that works out to plus GST (12.5%) and then yes a portion of the customs broker fee

www.xe.com wrote:Live rates at 2007.09.26 02:40:21 UTC

250.00 USD = 336.912 NZD

1 USD = 1.34765 NZD
1 NZD = 0.742033 USD

rowinz · Post by **rowinz** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:09 pm

I am definitely keen for one.

Cloggy_NZ · Post by **Cloggy_NZ** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:07 pm

Swaney wrote:Oh greatwinch do some pretty spiffy hydraulic ones too.

Definitely interested in one of these:

Looks very similar to the Runva model.
A little while ago I was in contact with Runva with the exact same ideas of importing 1 or 2 winches. Runva will sell you just one winch, no minimum order. Very helpful too. All set to buy one when the road car spat out its ABS system. So the dollars went on fixing that.
My reckoning is that the hydraulic winches should be more reliable. The one and only problem people seem to be having with chinese winches is the electrics / solenoid pack. Not an issue with a hydraulic winch. Plus hydraulics by their very nature require some more exacting standards of assembly. And the motors are generic and usually manufactured by a specialist company and not the winch manufacturer.
Add to that the increased speed, no battery drain and the ability to run all day long (as long as the engine is running) and they seem to be the better deal. The Runva 10000lbs hydraulic winch was going to cost me a shade over NZ$950 landed in NZ. But I had jacked up the freight to piggyback in a container through one of our suppliers at work.
I have sent them an email to get some more info and to see what the cost of one of these is.

tgaguy1 · Post by **tgaguy1** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:42 pm

Cloggy do you have to add the cost of a hyd power source to that winch or does it run off the power steering pump?

madaz068 · Post by **madaz068** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:49 pm

I would go for one if its that price

Red90 · Post by **Red90** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:22 pm

For less than 500 bucks!!!

count me in for at least one

Jezza · Post by **Jezza** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:47 pm

I would be interested in one of these

, if it is less then $500.
Could someone put a poll on this thread to see how many people are
interested?

Cheap Winchs 9500lbs $400 made in china

Will you definitly buy a winch?

Cheap Winchs 9500lbs $400 made in china