Synthetic winch rope

minefield · Post by **minefield** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:14 pm

Amsteel blue winch rope can be bought in direct from there factory

3/8- 10mm x 50 metres $ 108 US = $142 NZ

http://www.amsteelblue.com/item.cfm?itemid=44861

There all sizes but there 10 has a breaking strain of 19600lbs

Cheers

Graham

basics · Post by **basics** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:16 pm

not an hour ago i just orderd the winch with cable, maybe at a later date ill look at getting some

Smurf · Post by **Smurf** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:25 pm

minefield wrote:Amsteel blue winch rope can be bought in direct from there factory

3/8- 10mm x 50 metres $ 108 US = $142 NZ

http://www.amsteelblue.com/item.cfm?itemid=44861

There all sizes but there 10 has a breaking strain of 19600lbs

Cheers

Graham

Is this our next group buy???

minefield · Post by **minefield** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:35 pm

I have just added up the figures and buying bulk you are not saving much maybe 20 bucks, If you buy with out hook there wont be much freight so it should be landed for about 160-180 nz and to me thats cheap

Any thats what I will be doing

Cheers

Graham

DJN · Post by **DJN** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:37 pm

Is that 50 metres or 50 feet? Makes a bit of difference.
Don.

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:44 pm

thinking about getting some of that 7/16 rope..... looks and sounds good

would be way easier to handle than the 80meters of 13mm wire cable that i have on there now :shock:

would also knock off a lot of weight from the front end

Hmmmm.....

Dr_PC · Post by **Dr_PC** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:58 pm

wopass wrote:thinking about getting some of that 7/16 rope..... looks and sounds good

would be way easier to handle than the 80meters of 13mm wire cable that i have on there now would also knock off a lot of weight from the front end

Hmmmm.....

and your winch bitch will love you for it.. Stuff me I thought pulling 50mtrs of 9mm through mud and crap was bad enough

mercutio · Post by **mercutio** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:13 pm

looks like it is feet to me

GQTROL · Post by **GQTROL** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:51 pm

Samson Rope make Amsteel Blue and that isn't Samson Rope's website and that price is for a 50 foot length.

Talk with the NZ distributor of Amsteel...Tony Delany at Ultra Ropes in Tauranga. 027 497 3745.

From memory, his rate for 3/8" is about $9.50/m. Thats with 10% club discount and inclusive of GST. You order it one day, it arrives by courier the next.

Cloggy_NZ · Post by **Cloggy_NZ** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:04 pm

The same Amsteel Blue rope from 4wdbits.co.nz is $9.19 per metre including GST
http://www.4wdbits.co.nz/ProductDetails ... ductID=960
That way we are supporting a sponsor of this site as well :thumright:

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:08 pm

mercutio wrote:looks like it is feet to me

yes that is ft and it converts to about half the price of what its sold for here. $9.50 per meter is not something i would even consider...that would be nearly a grand to put rope on my winch :shock:

screw that with a big stick ! $500 is worth thinking about tho...and thats for the 7/16 rope :wink:

suzolla · Post by **suzolla** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:00 pm

How easy is it to put an eye in the end or put a hook on the end.
Thanks
Tim

Cloggy_NZ · Post by **Cloggy_NZ** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:50 am

suzolla wrote:How easy is it to put an eye in the end or put a hook on the end.
Thanks
Tim

Very easy, can be done out in the field should you snap one end of your rope. There is a nice description with easy to follow photo's here:
http://www.rockymountainextreme.com/sho ... hp?t=24628

GQTROL · Post by **GQTROL** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:47 am

Just did a quick comparo.....50 feet of 3/8" for US$108 works out to US$6.35/m. Current exchange rate of about 76 cents to the dollar works out at NZ$8.35/m, without the cost of freight or insurance to get it here.

Then if its more than NZ$400, you get to pay GST on it too (unless its a "gift").

Not having a go....I realise this stuff isn't cheap and we're always keen to get the best price, but sometimes its more appropriate to support the industry that supports our sport. Ultra Ropes and 4WDBits both support a couple of winch trucks and events. Have a chat with both guys, I'm sure they'll be keen to sharpen thier price.

Again, not having a dig...thats just my view on things.

minefield · Post by **minefield** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:45 am

I may have something,
I dont know how , But I have been contacted by 2 co. in china that make synthetic rope one even had a photo of there very latest synthetic rope making machine,

I have replyed asking for complete spec and a price list

Wait and see what comes of it /

Graham

4WDbits · Post by **4WDbits** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:05 am

Smurf wrote:
minefield wrote:Amsteel blue winch rope can be bought in direct from there factory

3/8- 10mm x 50 metres $ 108 US = $142 NZ

http://www.amsteelblue.com/item.cfm?itemid=44861

There all sizes but there 10 has a breaking strain of 19600lbs

Cheers

Graham

Is this our next group buy???

50 feet (15.24 meters) of 3/8th (10mm) for $108.00 US (approx $142.00 NZ) plus international freight to NZ or $9.19 per meter from http://www.4wdbits.co.nz/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=960 about $140.00 plus domestic freight.

The choice seems simple to me, or did I miss something?

Smurf · Post by **Smurf** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:17 am

4WDbits wrote:
Smurf wrote:
minefield wrote:Amsteel blue winch rope can be bought in direct from there factory

3/8- 10mm x 50 metres $ 108 US = $142 NZ

http://www.amsteelblue.com/item.cfm?itemid=44861

There all sizes but there 10 has a breaking strain of 19600lbs

Cheers

Graham

Is this our next group buy???

50 feet (15.24 meters) of 3/8th (10mm) for $108.00 US (approx $142.00 NZ) plus international freight to NZ or $9.19 per meter from http://www.4wdbits.co.nz/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=960 about $140.00 plus domestic freight.

The choice seems simple to me, or did I miss something?

I read Grahams post as being 50m not 50 feet, though that has now been clarified

minefield · Post by **minefield** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:27 am

Sorry it was my mistake , 50ft and that makes overpriced coming from the factory

see how this other one turns out

Graham

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:04 pm

nope...your right. i just screwed up my additions... :roll:

still bloody expendy for me to get 100m of the stuff :shock:

will just stick to the wire for a while untill i win lotto

Cloggy_NZ · Post by **Cloggy_NZ** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:04 pm

wopass wrote:nope...your right. i just screwed up my additions...

still bloody expendy for me to get 100m of the stuff will just stick to the wire for a while untill i win lotto

Just buy 30 or 40 metres of the good stuff and use the steel cable you currently have on your winch to make an extension cable.
That way most of your winching is done with nice rope which is safe and easy to handle. Also means fewer layers on your winch drum which means more pull. Then for those odd occasions the nearest anchor is 100 metres away you can use your steel extension.
No??
Just an idea

Sadam_Husain · Post by **Sadam_Husain** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:10 pm

wopass wrote:still bloody expendy for me to get 100m of the stuff will just stick to the wire for a while untill i win lotto

like cloggy says, just get the credit card out and order 50m of the stuff and you'll never ever want to touch a steel cable again :wink:

GQTROL · Post by **GQTROL** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:28 pm

To avoid using wire altogether, you could get 40m of Amsteel Blue and one (or two) 20m winch extension straps from ARB.

As others have suggested, 40m of rope would be all you need for most situations, but you've got the extensions on-hand when needed.

wopass · Post by **wopass** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:12 pm

what point would there be in having a disgustingly big winch ....and only having 40m of rope on it ! ?......would look stooopid.

and i like the fact that i can single line pull from anywhere to anywhere...within reason

mercutio · Post by **mercutio** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:25 pm

wopass wrote:what point would there be in having a disgustingly big winch ....and only having 40m of rope on it ! ?......would look stooopid.

and i like the fact that i can single line pull from anywhere to anywhere...within reason

i have seen it it really is big :lol:

markr · Post by **markr** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:27 pm

Cloggy_NZ wrote:
suzolla wrote:How easy is it to put an eye in the end or put a hook on the end.
Thanks
Tim

Very easy, can be done out in the field should you snap one end of your rope. There is a nice description with easy to follow photo's here:
http://www.rockymountainextreme.com/sho ... hp?t=24628

The above way is not the strongest way to do it....

mercutio · Post by **mercutio** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:31 pm

markr wrote:
Cloggy_NZ wrote:The above way is not the strongest way to do it....

i did wonder that myself what is the best way

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:23 pm

GQTROL wrote:To avoid using wire altogether, you could get 40m of Amsteel Blue and one (or two) 20m winch extension straps from ARB.

As others have suggested, 40m of rope would be all you need for most situations, but you've got the extensions on-hand when needed.

Its cheaper to get Amsteel winch extensions, I got a 20m one, half the price of a winch extension...

GQTROL · Post by **GQTROL** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:11 pm

wjw wrote:Its cheaper to get Amsteel winch extensions, I got a 20m one, half the price of a winch extension...

Jeebas how much are they these days? I saw 10,000lb 20m extensions for about AU$90 in Aussie last year.

spanky · Post by **spanky** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:44 pm

how does this stuff handle rocks and pumice? and what sort of care does it need? cheers
vaughan

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:17 am

GQTROL wrote:
wjw wrote:Its cheaper to get Amsteel winch extensions, I got a 20m one, half the price of a winch extension...

Jeebas how much are they these days? I saw 10,000lb 20m extensions for about AU$90 in Aussie last year.

Thats about right but my 20M extension cost me less than $30

spanky wrote:how does this stuff handle rocks and pumice? and what sort of care does it need? cheers
vaughan

Tracking down some 22mm firehouse to protect it ;-)

its generally ok when winching yourself, but when winching someone else ie the ropes moving is usually when the damage occurs.

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