V8 Land Rover project

[oldyella]

Consider this, if I put in a cross, it will be even harder to get beer out of the back...

I think you can see why I have only gone for one but ill have a few beers and think about it. I just don't want to do anything which will piss me off later on...

Brace goes to passenger side because I thought its more important to keep the missus face scar free than mine

Got all inputs to the MSII working tonight. RPM, Manifold Air Pressure, Throttle Position, 02, Intake Air Temp and Coolant Temp.

Mean

[Big]

Cool.. would be best with a X brace .. save ur face too

[oldyella]

Im about to spend a hell of a lot of money on extractors and an exhaust for the V8 landy im building. Below is a quote I got from Magoo in Dunedin.

One thing which isn't mentioned is I want the exhausts to come out infront of the back wheel one on each side (8 into 2 system). Should be legal because its a ute. . I also said I want it as loud as legally possible

Peter,

Thank-you for your enquiry, we will probably have to custom build the headers and system. To build the system and headers you will be looking around $1400.00 inc gst.
2 ¼ “ would be ideal for exhaust size, and we will need to fit resonators and mufflers to keep it within the legal noise level omitted from a shorter system.
To build headers your looking around $700.00, takes around 7 hrs to build them to high quality.will need to put o2 sensor nuts in the tail of each bank. System will be flanged from the bottom of headers.
I don’t think off the shelf headers will fit as they will need modified at the bottom as they are different front ends in different positions. They cost $655.00 by them selves anyway, plus fitting.
If there is anything else we can do please don’t hesitate to contact us.

Cheers.

Malcolm Dore
Manager
Magoo Muffler & Brake Dunedin
11 Wharf Street
Dunedin


I have only asked for one quote to get an idea of cost. I thought the above quote was pretty reasonable.
Has anyone delt with Magoo Warf Street?
Can anyone recommend anyone else in Dunedin I should ask for a quote?

Cheers,

Pete

[Pedro]

Im about to spend a hell of a lot of money on extractors and an exhaust for the V8 landy im building. Below is a quote I got from Magoo in Dunedin.

One thing which isn't mentioned is I want the exhausts to come out infront of the back wheel one on each side (8 into 2 system). Should be legal because its a ute. . I also said I want it as loud as legally possible

Peter,

Thank-you for your enquiry, we will probably have to custom build the headers and system. To build the system and headers you will be looking around $1400.00 inc gst.
2 ¼ “ would be ideal for exhaust size, and we will need to fit resonators and mufflers to keep it within the legal noise level omitted from a shorter system.
To build headers your looking around $700.00, takes around 7 hrs to build them to high quality.will need to put o2 sensor nuts in the tail of each bank. System will be flanged from the bottom of headers.
I don’t think off the shelf headers will fit as they will need modified at the bottom as they are different front ends in different positions. They cost $655.00 by them selves anyway, plus fitting.
If there is anything else we can do please don’t hesitate to contact us.

Cheers.

Malcolm Dore
Manager
Magoo Muffler & Brake Dunedin
11 Wharf Street
Dunedin


I have only asked for one quote to get an idea of cost. I thought the above quote was pretty reasonable.
Has anyone delt with Magoo Warf Street?
Can anyone recommend anyone else in Dunedin I should ask for a quote?

Cheers,

Pete

7hrs to build both sides is pretty dam quick, took me about 10 hrs for both sides, are they 4 into 1, semi tuned length, i used 1 5/8 primary tubes and 2.5" main pipe but that was 2 into 1, i would say pretty good price


cheers

pedro

[juz]

Have you tryed King Edward st Magoo? Not sure if its the same owners or not. Ive always dealt with the ones at Kensington there, good guys and very reasonable. That quote you got seems very reasonable, recently got 2 1/4" with one muffler and Fit up my Pacemaker headers on 64 Falcon (Done out Of Town) cost me $1200.

[oldyella]

I went into Automotive solutions today and the guy reackoned a grand all up. There next to repco on Police Street. Same price for extractors but only $300 for the rest of the system. I thought it sounded pretty good. I might drag it past there and let them have a look at it and get a better idea of cost.

[callum007]

AFAIK Malcolm owns both Magoo stores.

I'd say they will end up cheaper than that, but without seeing it he may have quoted slightly higher to cover his ass.

No idea on Auto solutions. dont go to Midas. Pit stop might be ok.

[oldyella]

Iv hit a bit of a snag with the LR. I want to make a bolt in crossmember so I can get the gearbox out easily. I want to do this before the exhaust gets done so it doesn't need redone. So im going to get the certifier around again and discuss my plan and see what he reacons.

Im the mean time iv been playing around with the megasquirt slowly getting my head around all the settings. Amoung other things Iv managed to get it controlling the air idle control valve depending on engine coolant temperature so idle speed is reasonably constant.



Cheers

[NJV6]

So have you got it running Pete?

[oldyella]

Nope not yet but the megasquirt seems to be behaving itself as far as bench testing goes so I think it should fire up ok. Main thing which could be wrong is a blocked or buggered injector... Im still not sure why the origional computer didn't work

According to the megasquirt instructions I will probably need to change some zener diode voltages and resistor values once it is installed on a running engine. Im not really sure how that will go...

Im shifting into a new place in the next 2 weeks which means for the first time, the LR will be in a large DOUBLE GARAGE and I can work on it in when its raining and dark. Take that Dunedin!

Iv got the remote mount oil filter all done. It has improved the clearance to the front diff but It might be worth while putting in a oil pressure buzzer incase anything gets smashed..

I think Jason from Classic Crusier Spares has found me a suitable radiator. Mint.

I need to rip some drive shafts out of a series 2 long wheelbase and modify length to suit. This is because the front driveshaft needs to be LONG. I believe the flanges are the same as disco. Iv got a LWB LR lined up.

Find a new 4bolt rear diff flange to get rid of the rubber doughnut so I can use a normal rear driveshaft. The rubber dougnut wont handle the angle. Im considering a double cardinal joint or what ever there called due to the stumpyness of the rear driveshaft... Not really sure how to go about that.

I think once im in the new place I should be able to get some of these fiddly bits ticked off the list.

[Rotazuk]

When I put the MS1 on the 91 rangie I built it as directed loaded firmware update , this had a map for a 350 chev . Set the injector flows etc and fired it straight up , it ran quite well on that map for a first start . I did not need to change any diodes etc so maybe you will be ok too , still the MS2 could well be quite different .

Chris

[oldyella]

I might use an existing 350 chev Volumetric Efficiency and Air Fuel Ratio maps as a starting point for mine. Cheers

Thanks to this fourm, I have also just sourced a 4bolt flange, spacer and pinion seal for the rear diff

[smurf182]

Im shifting into a new place in the next 2 weeks which means for the first time, the LR will be in a large DOUBLE GARAGE and I can work on it in when its raining and dark. Take that Dunedin!

This is the stuff dreams are made of!


I think my 40 will languish under a tarp all winter

[oldyella]

Haha yeah. Its all good having the outdoor shop in summer but winter is no good. Problem now is Ill have no excuses for buggering around

[oldyella]

We'll I finally got my engine hoist ram back after it buggered out putting the engine and gearbox back in after the chassis was painted. I thought I better test it



Then I was pretty dissapointed with the 450mm under the rear wheel... I think ill leave it and do some driving first though. A bit of extra sh** on the truck yet which will weight it down and compress the springs further yet... like 90l of gas

And a four bolt rear drive shaft flange with spacer and pinion seal turned up today Cheers Ashley! I'm going to give it a go putting this in tomorrow if it doesn't rain

[oldyella]

At the moment the ABS sensor wires in the disco axles are just flopping around and I will either leave the sensors in place and cut the wires or remove them totally.

If you remove the ABS sensors out of discovery axles and leave them out will the inside of the hubs fill up with mud?

[NJV6]

I dunno how they attach but with mine I left the sensors in place and just cut the wires at the sensor.

[oldyella]

I pulled the font ones out and found myself looking into the swivel hub grease so they will be definitely staying there and I will just cut the wires off.

[LR90NZ]

At the moment the ABS sensor wires in the disco axles are just flopping around and I will either leave the sensors in place and cut the wires or remove them totally.

If you remove the ABS sensors out of discovery axles and leave them out will the inside of the hubs fill up with mud?

Peter,
sent you separate email but essentially just pull the rear ones out. They don’t actually go inside the hub, just to a disc bolted in the back of the hub to read off.
For the front its a different story. They do go inside to the CV and read off an outer ring on the CV.
My suggestion is to pull the ABS sensor and either clean up and silicone a cover plate on top held by the two retaining bolts or replace top pin with a non ABS pin.

[oldyella]

Well Iv pulled the rear ABS sensors but the front ones are still in.

To get the new 4 bolt diff flange in it was all fun and games.

There is a stupid locator thing which prevents you getting to the bolt to remove the existing flange.

First I tried to twist the locator thing with a pipe wrench. It didn't work.

So then I created custom landrover maintenance tool number 1. And it didn't work.


So I had to reduce the tension on the locator thingy using the angle grinder Then custom landrover maintenance tool number 1 worked


These cordless rattle guns are THE SH!T


And finally the end result


One thing I did notice is I didn't need the spacer which was supplied with the kit. If I did put it in the two spines were off set and would have stripped. Also there would have been no way the nut holding everything on would have threaded on enough. I tapped the new pinion seal in but it seemed to sit to far back by about 2-3mm once properly seated. I might take it out, get a new one and tap it in slightly less...

[Overkill]

One thing I did notice is I didn't need the spacer which was supplied with the kit.

Was the length of the 4 bolt flange the same as the 3 bolt? I have just done my rear and needed the spacer, the dust shield though did push the oil seal back in about 2mm from the head surface.

What was your model number for the flange? Where did you purchase it from?

[oldyella]

Id have to have a look and see. It would be good to have a look at the 3bolt flange you pulled out to see if it is different to the (some what munted) one I have posted up.

I got it off LR90NZ

Cheers

[Timmy511]

hi, just skimmed through the whole thread and wondered, why didnt you put the series body on the disco chassis?

[oldyella]

Yea had to make a choice at the start of the project and was keen to build it so it had 1959 Series 2a on the rego instead of disco.

At the end of this I will have a 1959 Series 2a SWB Flatdeck with coils and injected V8 (cert, reg and wof touch wood) .

Rego will be half price because its more than 40years old to offset the fuel bill.

[Timmy511]

cheers, i under stand the reasoning nom, im used to the uk method of building trucks, build it, buy a chassis plate and number plates for it and get it to the garage for a test lol.

if i get residency and a place out here, i really wanna build one, series body, disco chassis, engine and box, safari axles (diffs), 100" wheelbase and a tube tray back and full external cage. landys are so much easier to work on than landcruisers imo.

[Big]

i really wanna build one, series body, disco chassis, engine and box, safari axles (diffs), 100" wheelbase and a tube tray back and full external cage. landys are so much easier to work on than landcruisers imo.

But they keep on breaking...lol unless you through some serious $$ at them.. but as for std pootrals and cruiser gear is just so much stronger from factory.. IMHO..

[mike]

i really wanna build one, series body, disco chassis, engine and box, safari axles (diffs), 100" wheelbase and a tube tray back and full external cage. landys are so much easier to work on than landcruisers imo.

But they keep on breaking...lol unless you through some serious $$ at them.. but as for std pootrals and cruiser gear is just so much stronger from factory.. IMHO..

totally disagree mine never breaks, it just wears out quicker than other makes due to the amount of fun that flows through it I did the disco chassis thing but didnt bother with anything else than disco running gear, bolt straight in, abundance of parts due to imports now. and it doesnt break that much stuff really. one welded diff in 3 years!!

[oldyella]

One rusty rear drive shaft out of a long wheel base series landy. Soon to be the new front drive shaft.

The old rear discovery drive shaft is going to be shortened and the normal UJ out of a series driveshaft welded in place of the three stud rubber doughnut thing.



Driveshafts cleaned up ready to go to the engineer shop to get made to length.



Once iv got the drive shafts in, ill have a handbrake and can get the LR into the new garage



Talked to the certifier, because the landy is a series 2 and they didn't come out with a catalytic converter, it doesn't need one in the new exhaust

Hes happy for the new bolt in cross member so that will be happening as soon as the LR gets into the garage.

Then it will go to get its exhaust.

Iv got to say I am looking forward to getting some fun flowing through this LR

I reacon a 100" disco chassis series body flatdeck would be an easy build. Any takers?

[oldyella]

While it was raining outside, I was inside the new garage and slapped in the other crossbrace.

I think ill add angle braces from the top of the hoop to the back that bolt in then it should be all ready for paint

[Big]

Can't go wrong with safety I say.. I like it..