D21 Navara SAS with falcon rear leaves
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Bring beer and a tape measure
See you soon
See you soon
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vvilly wrote:Bring beer and a tape measure
See you soon
Can't you read a tape measure?

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kbjj wrote:vvilly wrote:Bring beer and a tape measure
See you soon
Can't you read a tape measure?I need to know as it dictates what I do next with my limited time
Well if you bring enough beer I shouldn't be able to read a tape measure

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Re: D21 Navara SAS with falcon rear leaves
How to fit std 4.8 gears to a rear 8 inch elocker... add a 9mm (mines 8.5)spacer behind crown wheel. Also added 8mm dowel pins, 3mm into flange face and made longer bolts, (11 x 1, 30mm long)

Then had to add a 0.4mm shim (8 x 400) around centre, for crown wheel to locate onto. Worked out spot on, still had to heat crown wheel so it dropped on, and it nipped up when cool


Then had to add a 0.4mm shim (8 x 400) around centre, for crown wheel to locate onto. Worked out spot on, still had to heat crown wheel so it dropped on, and it nipped up when cool

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Not bad for a sparky!! Lol
Nice work dude. Comin together mint. It'll be a different animal being all locked up. Woohoo!
Nice work dude. Comin together mint. It'll be a different animal being all locked up. Woohoo!


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Work in progress... 8 inch elocker




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man u make em strong lol, how much do you reackon it costs materials wise to do something like that?
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Dirtydog wrote:man u make em strong lol, how much do you reackon it costs materials wise to do something like that?
Not sure, left over box and plate from other jobs, I throw fark all away. Materials cost buggar all imho, labour is the killer
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Does look like a lot of hours work.
Is it worth doing this sort of stuff on the ol nissan diffs?
Is it worth doing this sort of stuff on the ol nissan diffs?
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Depends how hard/rough you plan on treating them 

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lol, well im starting slowly but eventually i want to get into comps, mostly the meets there are down this way, but who knows where ill end up.
is it mainly to protect from rocks, etc or power/stress through the drivetrain?
is it mainly to protect from rocks, etc or power/stress through the drivetrain?
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I'd guess mainly for diff centre protection...and to prevent bending and deformation of the axle case in heavy use.
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well i dont think ill be doing stuff like that, not untill i hav a dedicated offroader.
Ill be sticking to mud so wont worry bout that for a wee while lol
Ill be sticking to mud so wont worry bout that for a wee while lol
Re: D21 Navara SAS with falcon rear leaves
Mate you have (almost) what he has - a solid front axle D21!
That type of terrain is exactly where the solid axle is justified... theres no way any IFS setup I can think of would slink its way up that rock with so much compliance. The forced articulation is brilliant.
That type of terrain is exactly where the solid axle is justified... theres no way any IFS setup I can think of would slink its way up that rock with so much compliance. The forced articulation is brilliant.
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Yeah... rock protection, shaved for an extra 15mm clearance, and to stop it bending. Current diff is bent with a little camber, good for a race track I suppose, pity about the rest of the truck
Dirtydog, you've probably got a better wheel base imho. You also have a strong drive chain so drive it hard when needed. Just don't dump the clutch, ease it out initially to allow everything to load before snotting it, it avoids shock loading.

Dirtydog, you've probably got a better wheel base imho. You also have a strong drive chain so drive it hard when needed. Just don't dump the clutch, ease it out initially to allow everything to load before snotting it, it avoids shock loading.
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Looking good Jezza.
Makes them a bitch to move around with all that extra steel don't it?
I had a mate of mine come around when I was building my diff housings who races in Mini 7 class (As an aside Shane Drake is his son, whole family is into going fast). He was mortified that I was doing something so insanely heavy to the wreck. his words were "what the fark could you possibly ever need all that for you mad cnut" hehehehehe.
Makes them a bitch to move around with all that extra steel don't it?
I had a mate of mine come around when I was building my diff housings who races in Mini 7 class (As an aside Shane Drake is his son, whole family is into going fast). He was mortified that I was doing something so insanely heavy to the wreck. his words were "what the fark could you possibly ever need all that for you mad cnut" hehehehehe.

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kbjj wrote:Yeah... rock protection, shaved for an extra 15mm clearance, and to stop it bending. Current diff is bent with a little camber, good for a race track I suppose, pity about the rest of the truck![]()
Dirtydog, you've probably got a better wheel base imho. You also have a strong drive chain so drive it hard when needed. Just don't dump the clutch, ease it out initially to allow everything to load before snotting it, it avoids shock loading.
Hence why i drive an auto lmao, trans takes the shock instead lol.
well if when the other truck sells ill be able to get some 33's at least, havnt quite tested it out yet, dont know what it can and cant do.
my bro lives up in blenhiem and i want to go on a road trip up there when its all finished. maybe a lil meet of the solid axle d21's?
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kbjj wrote:You also have a strong drive chain so drive it hard when needed. Just don't dump the clutch, ease it out initially to allow everything to load before snotting it, it avoids shock loading.
Is transfer chain breakage common? I'm 5 spd w the old TX10 transfer, might pull the back half off to have a look, after 25 years the chain has probably stretched a bit...
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Re: D21 Navara SAS with falcon rear leaves
kbjj wrote:Yeah... rock protection, shaved for an extra 15mm clearance, and to stop it bending. Current diff is bent with a little camber, good for a race track I suppose, pity about the rest of the truck![]()
Dirtydog, you've probably got a better wheel base imho. You also have a strong drive chain so drive it hard when needed. Just don't dump the clutch, ease it out initially to allow everything to load before snotting it, it avoids shock loading.
Thats a good piece of advice.

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lax2wlg wrote:kbjj wrote:You also have a strong drive chain so drive it hard when needed. Just don't dump the clutch, ease it out initially to allow everything to load before snotting it, it avoids shock loading.
Is transfer chain breakage common? I'm 5 spd w the old TX10 transfer, might pull the back half off to have a look, after 25 years the chain has probably stretched a bit...
Not sure if its common, but Dirtydog has a Safari one and I've upgraded to a V6 auto transfer case, same size chain as Safari, just had to change input spline to match manuel. Sibainmud gives his truck shit, and hasn't broken a standard manuel tcase chain... yet

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Yea ive gone with the safari gear, itl be a long time before i manage to break something with the lil td27t.
Its amazing what a solid axle does under the d21 platform.
makes me wonder why nissan never brought out one with a solid axle, well after the hustler...
Its amazing what a solid axle does under the d21 platform.
makes me wonder why nissan never brought out one with a solid axle, well after the hustler...
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Transfer Sounds like a worthwhile upgrade in any case, cheers
Yeah a solid axle and factory rear locker would have been cool factory options for these, just not scalable so no business sense to the bean counters at Nissan in the 1980s...
Back to the trussing though, even with all that armour the 8" Toyota will probably weigh in considerably less than a Terrano 9.25"..? Nice and compact.
Yeah a solid axle and factory rear locker would have been cool factory options for these, just not scalable so no business sense to the bean counters at Nissan in the 1980s...
Back to the trussing though, even with all that armour the 8" Toyota will probably weigh in considerably less than a Terrano 9.25"..? Nice and compact.
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Re: D21 Navara SAS with falcon rear leaves
dam why couldnt the hubs be the week link, least then theyre easy to replace without takin wheels off lol
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rod holder envy??????
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looks like someone got busy with the pvc pipe lmao
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kbjj wrote:Sibainmud gives his truck shit, and hasn't broken a standard manuel tcase chain... yet
This is true, but I have a fuse point.......weak 4.8 IFS front diffs

I have a D22 manual gearbox here with a rooted transfer. Will be looking into the safari chain conversion for it as T3 won't have the fuse point

Cheers,
I keep looking for the loose nut behind the wheel, but I can't find it!!
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vvilly wrote:
rod holder envy??????
If he has then you must have inflated tyre envy?


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sibainmud wrote:kbjj wrote:Sibainmud gives his truck shit, and hasn't broken a standard manuel tcase chain... yet
This is true, but I have a fuse point.......weak 4.8 IFS front diffs![]()
I have a D22 manual gearbox here with a rooted transfer. Will be looking into the safari chain conversion for it as T3 won't have the fuse point![]()
Cheers,
Yay for safari front gear



Re: D21 Navara SAS with falcon rear leaves
EA Falcon brake calipers modded to fit hilux axle
Put a wee groove in back of wheel spacer (adapter) to keep factor hole in axle flange clear to enable wheel bearing seal...ummm... slinger thing to do its job

...and fitted up, used early hilux front rotors (xx154)

Axle is in truck, wired, plumbed etc, and just finished handbrake cables today. Yet to be used in anger.
When I did the cab swap, I fitted a Terrano booster (master cylinder the same 15/16 inch). I noticed an improvement in feel with light braking, but similar feel under heavy braking (and pedal would hit floor still, although ample braking). Decided to fit a Safari master cylinder today (1 inch bore), as more braking was there to be had. Have definatly gained braking
Put a wee groove in back of wheel spacer (adapter) to keep factor hole in axle flange clear to enable wheel bearing seal...ummm... slinger thing to do its job

...and fitted up, used early hilux front rotors (xx154)

Axle is in truck, wired, plumbed etc, and just finished handbrake cables today. Yet to be used in anger.
When I did the cab swap, I fitted a Terrano booster (master cylinder the same 15/16 inch). I noticed an improvement in feel with light braking, but similar feel under heavy braking (and pedal would hit floor still, although ample braking). Decided to fit a Safari master cylinder today (1 inch bore), as more braking was there to be had. Have definatly gained braking
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Great stuff jezza. Lookin real tidy mate. You'll be ampin for this weekends jaunt!

