SAS on 1990 terrano: updated 28-11-15

[kbjj]

ive got 8,000 at the moment, and the work from the welders gunna cost 3,000 including cert, parts are about 2,500.

so ive come under budget so far.

$3000 for welding You could buy a reasonable arc welder, tac everything in position, and when happy where everything is, hire a welder for the afternoon. Will cost less and you'll have a welder at the end of it. Cert is only around $400

[turoa]

Theres a hell of a lot more to it that just welding fella. $3000 is pretty cheap for whats happening to it

[u13turbo]

Theres a hell of a lot more to it that just welding fella. $3000 is pretty cheap for whats happening to it

kbjj's done it all before, He should know.

[rangimotors]

I'm getting the idea that you don't have the skills or confidence to do the whole job yourself (which is fine I'm the same, happy to cut grind and weld if you point me in the right direction but like a bit of help for the pointing) but you should find that if you can find a helpful guy that you can save heaps by doing a lot of the basic jobs yourself. Anyone can cut out all the old ifs shit but it is time consuming so maybe you can do that part yourself so its just a couple of nice clean bare rails for the "pro" to weld to and tack things in place. It is a big job but a workshop that charges by the hour (which is fine, they have to make a living) will be expensive if you want to drive in and drive out with a complete truck.

[kbjj]

For some reason I thought you doing the sas or most of it yourself. My bad

[Dirtydog]

na im getting the guy that does ute conversions in mataura to do it, but i am going to be taking all the ifs stuff out myself minus the cutting of chassis etc.

but he's going to be adjusting the mounts on the rear axle and re adjusting the steering box so that i can get more articulation out of it.

most the articulation is going to be drop away aswell, so it wont be too high up compared to trucks that have good articulation.

[u13turbo]

Just lately I've realised that Jeeps have passenger side transfer output, I know theyre 5 stud, But could do a 6stud conversion? it'd be the cheapest and easiest way wouldnt it?

[Fakey]

If you wanted to put a jeep diff in the front why not just put the same in the rear

[u13turbo]

If you wanted to put a jeep diff in the front why not just put the same in the rear

I'm just seeing if this would be the easiest option, I no bugger all about there diffs really.

[Dirtydog]

If you wanted to put a jeep diff in the front why not just put the same in the rear

I'm just seeing if this would be the easiest option, I no bugger all about there diffs really.

The jeep diffsr arnt that strong aparently and they are quite costy. Cost the same for front and rear hilux diffs as the front jeep diff also jeep diffs are harder in long term.

[u13turbo]

If you wanted to put a jeep diff in the front why not just put the same in the rear

I'm just seeing if this would be the easiest option, I no bugger all about there diffs really.

The jeep diffsr arnt that strong aparently and they are quite costy. Cost the same for front and rear hilux diffs as the front jeep diff also jeep diffs are harder in long term.

Ahh ok yeah i thought i had heard hat they are pretty weak.

[Sadam_Husain]

as has already been said before, whatever your estimate is times it by 3 and thats what it'll likely cost in real dollars, if you've got a budget of $8k to do this you want to also consider selling the truck and adding that to the $8k you've already got (and maybe find a little bit more $) and you'd have a pretty good starting point to buying a really cool well setup truck thats built how you want it with lots of goodies at someone elses expence, hard work and big financial loss.... its a buyers market out there

if your doing this coz you like fabrication and/or want to learn how to do stuff then continue down this road and gain the satisfaction and achievement of doing it but you'll probably find realistically your truck will be off the road for at least a year if not 2 or 3 and it will be a huge money grabbing hole that will be hard and endless to feed and your truck will be worth a tiny fraction of what it owes you

[Dirtydog]

na its gunna be back on the road in about a month, all the parts are found and all that,

weve got a solid plan ready, not gunna chop anything up or anything like that, everything is more or less bolt up apart from suspension components, but diffs etc are all sorted, so ill start getting it all together.

ill start posting pics etc as soon as i get the parts together.

[Fakey]

na its gunna be back on the road in about a month, all the parts are found and all that,

weve got a solid plan ready, not gunna chop anything up or anything like that, everything is more or less bolt up apart from suspension components, but diffs etc are all sorted, so ill start getting it all together.

ill start posting pics etc as soon as i get the parts together.

I started my project with what I thought was pretty much all the bits I needed to do it an its still taken me 9 months to get it out for its 1st trip.
Granted Ive done alot more than youve got planned.
Im not knocking your plan. Im just saying dont be surprised If it takes quite a bit longer than ya think it will
I personally dont think theres much point in SAS'ing a terrano when ya could just spend the money on something more capable, but thats just my oppinion
Its a cool idea for a project but I think youll end up wanting more out of it than youll be able to get, power, tyre size etc

[GotFlex]

I personally dont think theres much point in SAS'ing a terrano when ya could just spend the money on something more capable, but thats just my oppinion

what he said, personally wouldnt do it either, what tire size do you plan on running? the bigger you go the sooner you will relize the tiny diesel wont cut the mustard. have you done much else like bar work etc? planning on lockers? addes these aswell?

[NJV6]

I agree but whats the point in doing what someone else has done? I think it is good a young fella is keen to create what he wants, not something that everyone else has.

Also remember he is in Southland where conditions are quite different, a little extra fuel and the wee diesel will be fine, 35's are a BIG tyre down here still and lets keep it that way huh!!!

The conversion won't take too long knowing the guy doing it.

[Dirtydog]

the guys said 2 weeks max, for all the work, and im not looking at putting larger than 35's on it.

im also going to be putting a safari box in it, so i can later put a VH41 or 45 in it, so takes away the power issue, and as for the bad points in a terrano, there isnt many, mainly just steering and front diff strength.

so i take away these week points, and make them strong.

this truck, apart from body and engine, will be a safari, minus the weight and crampt cab.

[Mud Hog]

the guys said 2 weeks max, for all the work, and im not looking at putting larger than 35's on it.

im also going to be putting a safari box in it, so i can later put a VH41 or 45 in it, so takes away the power issue, and as for the bad points in a terrano, there isnt many, mainly just steering and front diff strength.

so i take away these week points, and make them strong.

this truck, apart from body and engine, will be a safari, minus the weight and crampt cab.

Sounds like a good plan as said a bit outside the box will be following this with interest.

[KIWI_TERRANO]

Just keep a eye on rust under the back seat, terranos are bad for it

[Fakey]

Just keep a eye on rust under the back seat, terranos are bad for it

Mines got none an niether did my workmates v6 one.

So are you using standard patrol diffs an suspension?

[Mud Hog]

Just a thought you might want to do something with the chassis as its not designed for that power through that drive train

[Dirtydog]

should be alright, v8 will be quite a while away, and the rust has already been choped out before i brought it so thats algood.

[kbjj]

I think an sas on a Terrano is a good idea. As you've said, you are upgrading/replacing all the weak bits, and the rear end is strong and works well (stronger than the d21 navara), and you can get good horsepower out of a td27t ( I would like more torque thou)
An idea for down the track to make the rear work even better is longer links and different springs. http://npora.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=21056

[Dirtydog]

well ill be using a safari rear axle, with saf springs or my lift ones, and im re using my munroe 4x4 shocks aswell, but i may swap them for some longer travel ones later on down the line.

i can see where the links would be very handy, but as you said thats in the future.

at the moment though, hopefully i can either put the safari t-case on my trans or just put the safari trans in it.

does anyone know if the safari trans will accept the terrano bell housing?

[u13turbo]

well ill be using a safari rear axle, with saf springs or my lift ones, and im re using my munroe 4x4 shocks aswell, but i may swap them for some longer travel ones later on down the line.

i can see where the links would be very handy, but as you said thats in the future.

at the moment though, hopefully i can either put the safari t-case on my trans or just put the safari trans in it.

does anyone know if the safari trans will accept the terrano bell housing?

I saw a safari gbox the other day, they're Massive!! will it fit in the tunnel under a terrano??

[kbjj]

does anyone know if the safari trans will accept the terrano bell housing?

I have a safari trans off a td42, and a terrano trans off the v6. A quick measurement, and the bellhousings look to be interchangable. The v6 bellhousing looks different to the td27t thou.

[sibainmud]

Het kbjj, if you ever part out your Navara.......1st dibs on your front diff.
Cheers,

[kbjj]

Het kbjj, if you ever part out your Navara.......1st dibs on your front diff.
Cheers,

Nice try. I'd stick it under a terrano before I'd sell it.

[sibainmud]

Worth a try
See how this one goes. May end up building my own front diff.
I have also been thinking about making trailing arms longer too
Cheers,

[kbjj]

I have also been thinking about making trailing arms longer too
Cheers,

A cheaper option I read somewhere was, use bottom arms up top and new bottom arms (I would assume the same percentage length increase)