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Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:34 pm
by kiwipete
fullthrottle wrote:Pete, not sure if you are fully set on a QD32, but get in touch with Mark:
http://www.marks4wd.com/I read his Mag and he has adaptors for just about everything. Might give you more options on the engine choice.
A nice little 289 would be great. If you can wedge one in a MkII Cortina, it'll go in the Terrano

ahhh the good old days
Edit: second thoughts, an electric motor would fit right in under your bonnet

Cheers but im not sure my auto trans would cope and I am not about to swap that out.
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:35 pm
by kiwipete
ChurchurDan wrote:$3500 and they keep your engine?
Yep.
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:36 pm
by kiwipete
Dirtydog wrote:Just doing a bit of searching, theres a couple of qd32's with warranties, for around 1.5 -1.7k.
Yes I know, but I cannot hear them run and have to freight it to Chch on top of that etc etc. Hassles I can do without at the mo ta.
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:38 pm
by kiwipete
ChurchurDan wrote:I think that is a bit pricey. I would be getting a few more quotes. Try Gavin at country automotive he wrecks nissans and isuzu stuff out the back of rangiora. he can also fit the motor. last time I looked at his listings on trademe he had a qd32. I wouldnt worry about cert no warrant man is going to look at you engine number and both engines look the same.
I can point you in the direction of someone to build a pump for it as well.
Yes I know they look the same, but I want my truck re valued for insurance too, besides if I had an accident and the insurance co sees there is a non compliant motor in it, well id be in shitters ditch.
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:10 pm
by Fakey
oljamesyboy wrote:Fakey wrote:Whats the benefit of the qd32 swap? Arent they both still 2.7L diesel? Still using the same mechanical pump, what am I missing?
Price seems pretty fair, in regards to pulling the motor out yourself ( I know youre not going to pete but someone mentioned it)
Its pretty annoying for a mechanic being handed a bunch of parts and a vehicle and being asked to put it back together
Any time/money you save removing it yourself will be taken up by the guy fitting it trying to figure out where things go

QD is 3.2l
Haha I see that was what I originally thought but I read something that said it was 2.7L

Well thats how I read it

It all makes sense now, as you were

Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:47 pm
by lax2wlg
Looking through your build thread, I would say you'd easily have the aptitude to do an engine swap. A helper makes it a lot more fun. Its a pretty standard process regardless of mfr.
But I also understand the installation is part of a package deal, maybe theres a warranty etc
In any event it should really be the dog's balls by the time its finished.
Jeez, it never stops, does it?! Sometimes I wake up at 3am in a delirious state having lightbulb moments about rock slider designs or solid axle options.
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:50 pm
by kiwipete
I hear you lax2wlg, but I do not have the resources to do the install, nor the space.
All the suggestions posted have made sense and I have considered them all, but I think I will leave this one to the experts.
Tyres will be the next big expense after I smoke these ones with all the excess power I will have to burn.
PS; better get my ass into gear and alter the spare air con brackets I have to allow fitting my Sanden air con pump for on board air too. I want to keep the factory air con pump in place. (
but this is for another post)
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:25 pm
by philip121
what would you sell the old 2.7 for
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:33 am
by kiwipete
philip121 wrote:what would you sell the old 2.7 for
Give me your best offer and I will see how we go.
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:21 pm
by philip121
does it run well does it overheat
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:57 pm
by kiwipete
philip121 wrote:does it run well does it overheat
There is no issues with the motor at all.
I am only replacing it for a more powerful one to allow towing a bigger caravan.
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:16 pm
by kiwipete
The truck is booked in for next Monday for it's transplant

. This will give me time to sort out another wee project in the mean time.
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:42 pm
by Dirtydog
yay
Your going to have to get some videos once its in action for all us terrano lovers

Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:14 pm
by kiwipete
Dirtydog wrote:yay
Your going to have to get some videos once its in action for all us terrano lovers

I cant see a problem with that
I might ask the guys to take some shots of the job as it progresses too as I will not be able to visit them until it is done. I will only have my wee skooter to run around on

Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:25 pm
by Heath
One more sleep before the "Heart Transplant" begins.
I've got the gauge for you to look at, in my bag for work tomorrow (otherwise I'll forget)
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:01 pm
by kiwipete
Heath wrote:One more sleep before the "Heart Transplant" begins.
I've got the gauge for you to look at, in my bag for work tomorrow (otherwise I'll forget)
Thanks Mr

Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:47 pm
by kiwipete
Well that's it; I have dropped the truck off, pick it up on Friday
They are also going to put in a new drive shaft hoop as the new certs do not allow the factory ones to be sufficient any more.
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:00 pm
by Dirtydog
ripped mine out and got it replaced by some 3mm pipe. (huge diameter pipe lol) for the same reason.
I cant wait to hear it.
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:56 pm
by kiwipete
Just a slight hiccup; 1st the pulleys on the alternator were the wrong offset so this had to be swapped out to match the existing set-up and 2nd the sump was a different shape and would not fit - so out had to come the new engine.
I am so glad I am paying someone else to do this as it would take weeks for me to get all this sorted
Monday night I should be able to pick the truck up now.
It will be well worth the wait.
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:40 pm
by Dirtydog
What shape are the sumps?
Same bolt pattern as td27? or completley different
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:11 pm
by kiwipete
Dirtydog wrote:What shape are the sumps?
Same bolt pattern as td27? or completley different
I have no idea sorry, just got a phone call about it earlier today. They have never come across one like it before????
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:16 pm
by Dirtydog
I cant find any pics of one to have a look at.
If they are the same bolt pattern (or shape around the top at least) i wonder if it might be an easy way for me to get back some up travel.
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:18 pm
by Heath
kiwipete wrote:Just a slight hiccup; 1st the pulleys on the alternator were the wrong offset so this had to be swapped out to match the existing set-up and 2nd the sump was a different shape and would not fit - so out had to come the new engine.
I am so glad I am paying someone else to do this as it would take weeks for me to get all this sorted
Monday night I should be able to pick the truck up now.
It will be well worth the wait.
Bugger!
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:16 pm
by Heath
Soooo.
Any news?
Seat of the pants dyno results?
Pics too please (just because).
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:10 pm
by kiwipete
Heath wrote:Soooo.
Any news?
Seat of the pants dyno results?
Pics too please (just because).
Sigh, not quite ready tonight. They were just tinkering with the fuel to air mix to get it just right. They were however, very pleased indeed with the road tests they have done, one fast truck
I'm told I will have a smile on my dial tomorrow night

Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:06 pm
by Bonus
Just out of interest, whos doin the work for you?
Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:29 pm
by Heath
So?
How was/is it?

Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:54 pm
by fullthrottle
Pete's probably out cruising, will be back next year once the smile goes from his face

Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:53 pm
by kiwipete
FARKEN AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It has turned the truck into a real beast to say the least, only drove it home from Kaiapoi so not too much of a test. I can say on the road it is so sensitive on the throttle and VERY quick off the mark.
I cannot see any issues at all for off roading, just need to learn to keep my foot off the go pedal
There is only one teeny weeny wee problem, the handbrake light will not go out on the dash. We looked at all the vaccy hoses and checked the brake fluid plunger switch as well as the hand brake handle switch and all seem to be operating as one would expect.
I am thinking the hand brake handle switch may be faulty so I will look into it over the weekend when I have some daylight.
Oh and here's the plug for thems wot done it.
No hesitation in recommending
Nathan Hammond at Kaiapoi Repowers Awesome work and service!
They did the following (from the top of my head, I may have missed something)
~Engine swap, and no it wasn't a straight forward bolt for bolt job, the sump is different and the torque converter(kept mine in there) does not line up either
~Alternator swap, now I have a 100A alty (but single pulley so I will have to do a rethink about how I am going to do my Sanden SD08 air compressor install now)
~Vacuum pump install
~Altered the outlet angle of the turbocharger to align better with my intercooler
~Repositioned the probe for the EGT gauge, it reads proper now
~Oils, filters and fluids
~Modified my injector pump to the QD specs
~Added a drive shaft hoop
~Reinstalled my intercooler and altered inlet pipework
Well worth the spend, esp as it is something I could not have achieved myself and I still would not attempt it, way out of my league.
The only other mod suggested is to put in a bigger airbox, but that means I will have to find somewhere else to mount the winch solenoid and wireless receiver? There is no real usable space left under that bonnet unless I move the power steering reservoir further toward the guard?
Have I missed anything?

Re: Terrano engine swap
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:37 pm
by Heath
Sweet!!!
Now to chuck the C'van on the back and drag it about for an hour or two to see how it goes.
