Mroffroader's landrover disco

doddzee · Post by **doddzee** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:33 pm

I hope your going to finish your own truck before you start on his turoa!

niblik · Post by **niblik** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:36 pm

doddzee wrote:I hope your going to finish your own truck before you start on his turoa!

which one..? rr or sheddy? :lol:

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:09 pm

Why not just sell it and buy a Safari :evil:

NJV6 · Post by **NJV6** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:18 pm

Are you going to graft some cruiser hubs on the back as well? I can just see you getting a puncture and having a 6 stud front and 5 stud rear.....and the spare with naturallly be the wrong one...?? :oops:

Or am I missing something?

NJ

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:44 pm

niblik wrote:oh i get it...

i was just thinkin of ease vs $$$$.... thats all...

for ease and value for money what im doing is cheapest and easiest believe it or not!!

Jerry wrote:Why not just sell it and buy a Safari

wheres the fun in that every man and his dog owns a safari :roll:

NJV6 wrote:Are you going to graft some cruiser hubs on the back as well? I can just see you getting a puncture and having a 6 stud front and 5 stud rear.....and the spare with naturallly be the wrong one...??

Or am I missing something?

NJ

you've missed something were putting the cruiser centre into the rest of the rover diff eg. cut out the rover pumpkin and weld the cruiser one in there so we can put the cruiser diff head in there and run custom axles to suit.

on the front i will get stud adapters so they will all be the same rims :wink:

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:48 pm

doddzee wrote:I hope your going to finish your own truck before you start on his turoa!

The RR, the LR or the suzuki?

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:53 pm

turoa wrote:
doddzee wrote:I hope your going to finish your own truck before you start on his turoa!

The RR, the LR or the suzuki?

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:58 pm

Don't forget his Raly car too..

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:00 pm

Jerry wrote:Don't forget his Raly car too..

Theres the charger, the fiat and the patrols head agsket to do aswell. I better get his stuff done otherwise he'll have to wait another 10 years before he gets his done :shock:

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:45 pm

turoa wrote:he'll have to wait another 10 years before he gets his done

I can assure you I will be cracking the whip before 10 years rolls around :lol:

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:10 pm

Don't you mean that you will probably end up finishing it for him :lol:

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:22 pm

Jerry wrote:Don't you mean that you will probably end up finishing it for him

either or

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:04 pm

Jerry wrote:Don't you mean that you will probably end up finishing it for him

i think theres a saying about that??
isnt it "the blind leading the blind"? :lol:

Cloggy_NZ · Post by **Cloggy_NZ** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:40 pm

turoa wrote:
It would require about the same amount of work to put discs on a salisbury

I'd question that,
Discs onto a Salisbury are literally a bolt on job. No welding or machining required. Having just done it today I can vouch for that.

But good on you Turoa, one has to admire your enthusiasm and skills aquired at your age to be able to carry out the work you are and the fact you are willing to help other people who either haven't got the skills or the equipment / facilities.
It be great to see Mr O's Disco on its hybrid axles. :thumright:

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:19 am

Cloggy_NZ wrote:It be great to see Mr O's Disco on its hybrid axles. :thumright:

:groupjump:

JAMUBA · Post by **JAMUBA** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:04 pm

Hi mro

Nice truck,
Have you talked to 4x4boy about the truck?
Ask him how much drive line breakages hes had and how many times hes been out in it.
Theres a guy in our club got a early rangie running 35" super swampers with a modifyed p76 on lpg(these engines deliver 420 Nm of torque in standard form), and standard front axles. Hes broken one front axle in two years, the axle must be about 30+ years old. Not too bad in my books.
People are always baging rovers and there axles, but i think there being a tad harsh.

Chris

Steve_t647 · Post by **Steve_t647** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:10 pm

Theres a guy in our club got a early rangie running 35" super swampers with a modifyed p76 on lpg(these engines deliver 420 Nm of torque in standard form), and standard front axles. Hes broken one front axle in two years, the axle must be about 30+ years old.

It depends how, where and what you drive. I know of a RR that blew a rear axle he replaced it and within a month blew it again, the previous owner was more gentle and didn't play on solid ground didn't break any in 3 years, he had all of them cryoed and something else after that and has only broken one since.

they are underrated for the amount of power that can be delivered to the wheel, but I admit they can go a long way as a standard truck.

DieselBoy · Post by **DieselBoy** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:29 pm

Been watchin this thread with interested. Finally couldn't resist to chim in with my opinion. (to be taken at face value of course :wink:

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I reckon drive it a bit more Mr O!!!!!!

See how it goes.

I'm sure you've bin told by others already, there's no such thing as an indestructable truck if driven by the right person.

Didn't you reckon you rear carrier pin was bent or worn when you blew the diff?? So obviously the main cause of the failure was through the worn parts.

Try it on the standard diff some more and adjust you driving style accordingly. Hell, if you give it shit and bunny hop and bounce around on hard ground somethings gonna give on any vehicle.

I would see how it goes in the soft ground over winter, and then take it easy on the hard ground in the summer. you do have the power andtorque of a V8 under your right foot now, so learn the right time and place to use it to its potential.

Its similar to my Safari. Because i have a front locker, i have to be carefull in reverse on hard ground other wise i'll blow a CV or the locker again. In the mud, its fine fingers crossed. But for the sake of $2500 for an airlocker, i'm prepared to drive it to its limitations now i am aware of them.

Same with you axle up grade. Thats a whole lot of time and effort shagging round with the truck off the road, and $$$ for custom axles, that you WILL need two sets of (custom parts aren't always a good idea unless you can make em yourself or their really easy to get). So drive it accordingly, and you won't have the problems and save your self s whole lot of hassle and very hard earned $$$ in the process.

Seems the dude you scored it off drove it hard and happily for may years, so maybe there's something in that aswell???

Anyways like i said, just my opinion, don't take it any other way than at face value!!!!

jdeburgh · Post by **jdeburgh** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:40 pm

Words of wisdom above!!

John

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:53 pm

mroffroader and taking it easy dont exactly go together :wink:

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:05 pm

He'd be better off swopping it for a Tank in that case :twisted:

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:18 pm

Yea the main reason that im doing the diffs is becuase at the moment I have the money to do it. And like Turoa said I like to drive things hard :twisted:

if I go out with the entention of nanaring it every where I just simply wouldn't have any fun

And I know that the pin was already severy worn and was on its last legs.....but as Cloggy said to me:

"Rovers break diffs easily, you will do it more than once in the next few months, but hey it's a cheap fix only about $150-$200" or somewhere along those lines....

my response is here:

$150-$200!!!!!!!!! There is no way in hell that I can afford to be replacing diffs every couple of months becuase I drive like a bat out of hell. The reason why im doing the diff swap now instead of in a couple of months is becuase instead of spending the money I have now on replaceing diffs I can just do the diff swap and not have to worry about blowing diffs.

So the main 2 reasons for doing it is (in short answer)

1. I have the money at the moment and.....

2. Im not changing my "thrash it" driving technique becuase there no fun in that :lol:

oh desiel boy..... these axles are very reasonably priced and he basically garantees that you won't break them :wink:

JAMUBA · Post by **JAMUBA** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:21 pm

Rember that age old quote "KISS" (keep it simple stupid). lot of after market parts for rover diffs, longfield is making cv and axles for them now, and a chioce diff locks.
You could buy a lot of spairs for the price of a conversion, any modification has hidden costs, ask any one who has done a so called "simple engine swap".
I've done pleanty and I'm still supprised when the budget blows.
But its your truck so go for it man.
ps V8's rule :twisted:

Chris

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:26 pm

JAMUBA wrote:Rember that age old quote "KISS" (keep it simple stupid). lot of after market parts for rover diffs, longfield is making cv and axles for them now, and a chioce diff locks.
You could buy a lot of spairs for the price of a conversion, any modification has hidden costs, ask any one who has done a so called "simple engine swap".
I've done pleanty and I'm still supprised when the budget blows.
But its your truck so go for it man.
ps V8's rule

Chris

Yea except can you imagine the price of longfeild kits or similar kits

ive got the rear diff for free (it will cost me approx $300 in axles) and the front will cost me $300 plus a few little other things all up will probably be about $700-$1000 at the very most!!!! thats cheap and then i will have the option of cheap lockers eg. auto locker rear and LSD front where as rover diffs don't like auto lockers etc....... :wink:

yea man go the v8!!!!!!!!!! :twisted:

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:26 pm

Jamuba, hows your S1 coming?

Cloggy_NZ · Post by **Cloggy_NZ** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:28 pm

Yes these stories of people running 35"s on their Rangie and that and not breaking standard diffs...??? They must drive em like Grandma's. And where is the fun in that.
I want a vehicle I can depend on when push comes to shove and I need to give it a bootful to get over an obstacle or out of the shit.
Having blown 4 diffs in my stock Disco (other than marginally larger tyres than stock) I was getting a little sick of it. It's nothing to do with worn parts, it's all to do with the puny 16mm pins holding the spider gears in those diffs. Those diffs can trace their design back to the 1930's when cars put out all of about 50 hp. It is the only real weak link in a Disco or early Rangie.
Once Mr O's has been modded look out.

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:30 pm

Cloggy_NZ wrote:Yes these stories of people running 35"s on their Rangie and that and not breaking standard diffs...??? They must drive em like Grandma's. And where is the fun in that.
I want a vehicle I can depend on when push comes to shove and I need to give it a bootful to get over an obstacle or out of the shit.
Having blown 4 diffs in my stock Disco (other than marginally larger tyres than stock) I was getting a little sick of it. It's nothing to do with worn parts, it's all to do with the puny 16mm pins holding the spider gears in those diffs. Those diffs can trace their design back to the 1930's when cars put out all of about 50 hp. It is the only real weak link in a Disco or early Rangie.
Once Mr O's has been modded look out.

exactly what I said a couple of posts earlier!!! thanks for backing me up cloggy!!! your the man!!!!

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:31 pm

Cloggy_NZ wrote:Once Mr O's has been modded look out.

JAMUBA · Post by **JAMUBA** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:39 pm

Hi Turoa

The s1 on hold at the moment, been saving for a rally truck, I'm looking at a C class 413, the dudes going to Nelson for the last round, hope he dosn't roll it, but if all goes well I be like a pig in sh*t!!

Chris

Post by **mike** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:46 pm

Don't forget your cert costs - $350+. And when your going to get your cert you might as well cert it for everything at once :wink:

bring on the 37's :twisted:

Mike