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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:32 pm
by PR
kiwipete wrote:Swaney wrote:would of been funnier if one of them had fallen off with the last rock they pushed down.
looked like a fun day out though - and yes better to push a rock down a hill than jump behind the wheel of a 300hp+ car and going hooning through town - my thoughts on it anyway.
It would definatley not have been funny to see one of them go down with the rock possibly suffering serious injury!
And what about a innocient tramper, walker or hunter in the path of said rock. They would stand no chance against 1/2 a ton of rock baring down apon them from the dense bush!
This behaviour is no joke at all!
Not only have they bought ORE back into the lime light, but it will be seen as all 4x4 enthusiasts are into this sort of behaviour.
Its time for these idiots to grow up!
Ranting cooling off now..............
Well said Pete

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:32 pm
by Moriarty
Attention WOPASS!!
Kaweka.
Floods.
Underboot monster.
ROCK!!!
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:40 pm
by MATT4U
kiwipete wrote:Its time for these idiots to grow up!
then give the a chance to, they are young,
Pete can you tell me that at 16-18 you would not have done similar things?? you would be lieing if you said no.
Ok boys listen here, it was silly thing to do, next time think of what could happen before you do such a thing, example; would you have randomally fired a gun into that bush, no, thendont throw rocks down there either.
done.
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:56 pm
by Moriarty
Old saying from the Bibbbble, not that I hold with sech things, being an old irreligious bastard with a nasty temper etc etc. BUT!!
"He who is without sin, cast the first stone"
Jeeze, guys, If all MY sins came back at me in one fell swoop, I shudder to think! jail would be the least of MY worries!! angry husbands, irate owners of suddenly dead stock, missing heaps of metal from the roadside! Now THAT was fun!! I have even been know to roll the odd rock too!! How about we let it drop?
Or are you all dead set on carrying this on ad infinitum?
Post scriptum
Lookee here to see what I mean about being young, or in OUR case not actually growing up!!!
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/images/albums/Moriarty/Gravity_testing.wmv
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:58 pm
by MATT4U
Moriarty wrote:Old saying from the Bibbbble, not that I hold with sech things, being an old irreligious bastard with a nasty temper etc etc. BUT!!
"He who is without sin, cast the first stone"
Jeeze, guys, If all MY sins came back at me in one fell swoop, I shudder to think! jail would be the least of MY worries!! angry husbands, irate owners of suddenly dead stock, missing heaps of metal from the roadside! Now THAT was fun!! I have even been know to roll the odd rock too!! How about we let it drop?
Or are you all dead set on carrying this on ad infinitum?
AMEN!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:17 pm
by Leithfield
The rationale for education over crucifixion:
"When I was a child I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man I put away childish things."
I Cor. xiii. 11.
(Sunday School circa 1970

)
Kev
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:25 pm
by kiwipete
Pete can you tell me that at 16-18 you would not have done similar things?? you would be lieing if you said no.
Possibly I would have, but I wont admit to anything incase I incriminate myself. Besides my checquerd past is not in question here, yet.
What I may have done as an idiot, would not have ben put on the video screen for all to see!
I am still and idiot at times, like this one, continuing the debate. It is my right to voice concern as to the actions of others, as it is yours to suggest it is aid to rest.
The simple outcome has been voiced here already,
education!
Here endeth my sermon, for now..........
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:58 pm
by fweddy
young people do silly things,
old people complain,
the young ones feel oppressed by the older,
the older know they are wiser because they have been there.
This thread is just the outplay of human existence, people doing what people naturally do best

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:42 pm
by rangimotors
Is it public land? i think its a pitty the video didn't stop half way through, looks like some pretty cool track. but yea those rocks sure were dangerous im sure they'll learn like everyone does.
Sometimes there seams to be a fine line between track building/maintance and pure dangerous destruction i was pleased to see them with spades etc maybe they are far more responsible than we give them credit for, lets face it they were hardly going to film the possible hours of work they put into the track because its boring. Would you be so quick to want to report them etc if they were older guys? or is this just wishful thinking of mine and shit stirring. Only the people concerened could answer i guess.
Saying all that if i was walking/ driving/ hunting in the area and a rock like that came at me there would be trouble.
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:46 pm
by shortylux
true.
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:15 pm
by DaveM
Just saw the vid, shame it was ruined by the pointless rolling of rocks, but oh well.
Pretty easy to tell who the ORE member is though

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:20 pm
by hoper
the two trees were dead and one dead tree we had to move cause one truck was stuck
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:21 pm
by mike21
i see this has grabed quite abit off attention and we all have valid points, i jus hope its made everyone a litle wiser and i just dont wana see another locked up track. thanx guys i kno we're all here cause we love playing in the mud like kids! i just wana be able to do it more often and have more access.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:26 pm
by hoper
yes thats tru and we are sorrie for trouble we have caused
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:36 pm
by rangimotors
keep up the good 4 wheeling mate, don't stress about it, if your mature enough to post up and appoligise on a public site then your mature enough to learn from others comments, what ever you do don't give up its a great hobbie but be aware of saftey factors and potential destruction that might be going on. And by all means if you get any more videos post them up on here

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:39 pm
by hoper
ha k will do

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:44 pm
by mike21
wel put rangimotors i'm sure none of us should be here tryna pull fellow 4wders down but to incourage and give advice. i've not been doin it that long myself and any pointers would b great

good 2 see some people still have the balls to apologise

good on ya man have fun out there!
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:59 pm
by billyvanboheman
hoper wrote:yes thats tru and we are sorrie for trouble we have caused
Good on ya mate, well done for sticking your hand up and fronting up
Hopefully you can see what we are trying to do, by keeping access to public areas open for all of us.
Keep the Videos of the 4WD action coming, you know the stuff, the good driving bits

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:23 pm
by Jerry
Just be careful if it is DOC land etc as this is where we get into problems, as a rule a permit is required to do any "track maintenence" on these areas. its hard enough keeping tracks open these days. and the less amnmunition we give the greenies / doc etc to use against us the better.
Thanks for owning up.
PS just a suggestion but it may be an idea to pull the vid from youtube or edit certain bits out of it ie the "track maintenence" as its clear to some what track it is.
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:19 pm
by Shane
cant find the vid,searched "4x4 mission in back yard" but nothing comes up can someone put a link up please.
Shane
4x4 to the
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:32 pm
by coxsy
it may of been removed by those that posted it on there