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BlackCruiser wrote:

BrentC wrote:

lilpigzuk wrote:

DieselBoy wrote:Any entry forms that need filling and posting fo teh 16th??

nope, will get details at dec club meeting early dec - will PM you details on where its at. Just incase you might want too practice shit with a blind fold on, but you may do that already

There will be no blindfolds however there may be one or two hazards that you would find at a hard Gymkhana - purely up to the Nth Shore guys - they set their own hazards and there is an emphasis on getting more shiney to club trucks involved

hell even I am going to enter

have a look at http://www.manukau4wd.org.nz planned club trips tomorrow



and I will upload latest detail from North Shore 4wd

How can they continue wih the Gymkhana events when people are competing in a 4x4 series, people spend alot of time and money with rally trucks so maybe the time has come to seperate the shinys from the rally trucks

Talk to your Club - so that they can bring up your concerns with the five clubs that run the Manukau4WD sanctioned Laurie Sanson series - I will also discuss them at our committee meeting next week - as I said b4 I don't know all the history etc

BrentC wrote:

BlackCruiser wrote:

BrentC wrote:

lilpigzuk wrote:

DieselBoy wrote:Any entry forms that need filling and posting fo teh 16th??

nope, will get details at dec club meeting early dec - will PM you details on where its at. Just incase you might want too practice shit with a blind fold on, but you may do that already

There will be no blindfolds however there may be one or two hazards that you would find at a hard Gymkhana - purely up to the Nth Shore guys - they set their own hazards and there is an emphasis on getting more shiney to club trucks involved

hell even I am going to enter

have a look at http://www.manukau4wd.org.nz planned club trips tomorrow



and I will upload latest detail from North Shore 4wd

How can they continue wih the Gymkhana events when people are competing in a 4x4 series, people spend alot of time and money with rally trucks so maybe the time has come to seperate the shinys from the rally trucks

Talk to your Club - so that they can bring up your concerns with the five clubs that run the Manukau4WD sanctioned Laurie Sanson series - I will also discuss them at our committee meeting next week - as I said b4 I don't know all the history etc

Thanks, Will do, who is the contact for them

BlackCruiser wrote:Thanks, Will do, who is the contact for them

Manukau 4wd - Club Captain - Bernie Konz 09 236-6856

So who besides Sez and I are doin the first round on the 16th??

DieselBoy wrote:So who besides Sez and I are doin the first round on the 16th??

I'll be there with possibly 3 or 4 of the BOI club boys

Nope

DieselBoy wrote:So who besides Sez and I are doin the first round on the 16th??

where abouts is this round , could be keen if not toooo far away.
vaughan

Waitakere, near Bethels Beach (west auckland). PM me if you want exact location $25 entry fee

well thats only 350ks from home ,if i can borrow a better tow wagon i will be there.
vaughan

lilpigzuk wrote:Nope

She not preggies AGAIN is she????? I think thats the only excuse we have had you use so far

BlackCruiser wrote:




How can they continue wih the Gymkhana events when people are competing in a 4x4 series, people spend alot of time and money with rally trucks so maybe the time has come to seperate the shinys from the rally trucks

they are already seperated ,Laurie sanson is for shineys nationals are for rally trucks.

the laurie sanson was supposed to be a stepping stone to competing in the nationals, and should be aimed at the club trucks. I'm all for there being easy outs for the shinnys but I agree keep the gymkhana events seperate or a least limit them to one an event. It does make it hard for a competetive adult/kid team, who has done well in the whole series, and then expect a 10 year old to balance a ball on a tennis racket while being driven around an obstical.
I respect that the people who give up their time to peg an event should be able to choose, but with the amount of time that goes into some of those Shore gymkhana events I would have thought it easier to peg another hill climb or such.

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The Larrie Sanson was never meant to be a stepping stone to the nationals . In the early days it was held on the same day as the nationals but this was changed ( before my time ) to be a different day so you could go and watch/marshal etc .
It was always aimed at shinny trucks . Over the years it has got a bit harder etc but this has tried to be addressed in the last few years .

Don't get me wrong , I have a club truck and do not like the golf ball down the hole hazzards etc but we can't expect something to cater to all .

As the nationals has progressed over the years to the serious competition it is now there is a large gap between the shinny truck and a full blown rally truck . My bush truck will never be national rally material but its not a shinny either .

Maybe its time to see an inbetween event , or get the participating clubs togeter to see if the host club will alain the event with current trends . That may well be it stays a shinny event .

Chris

i,ll be there, my 1st first real 4x4 event.

LOLYF wrote:

BlackCruiser wrote:




How can they continue wih the Gymkhana events when people are competing in a 4x4 series, people spend alot of time and money with rally trucks so maybe the time has come to seperate the shinys from the rally trucks

they are already seperated ,Laurie sanson is for shineys nationals are for rally trucks.

Not correct!!, there are alot of rally trucks that do not compete in the national rally but compete in club challenges, fun days and in our areas the Laurie Sanson series.

As chris said the laurie sanson series was designed for non natianals competitors hence being held on the same day. It was so people could have some fun competion in standerd road going vehicles.( ie no rally trucks) Obviously it has changed a bit over the years.

LOLYF wrote:As chris said the laurie sanson series was designed for non natianals competitors hence being held on the same day. It was so people could have some fun competion in standerd road going vehicles.( ie no rally trucks) Obviously it has changed a bit over the years.

Yes it has obviously changed

I think we have got off track a bit, it doesn't matter who the compitition is aimed at, it wouldn't worry me if National trucks were deemed ineligable for the overall prize, the point is it is a compitition, a test of driver and machine in off road conditions no matter what class or ability and I don't think juggling balls is a normal off road condition. Don't get me wrong I enjoy these events but I for one would like to see them done on a one off fun day(I'd bring my wife & kids!), not in a series where your childs ability to place a ball in bucket can can make or break your chances of overall points.

since this is my first event (though doing gymkhana bop club day b4)
thought i,d ask you experiannced old salts what i need too bring.
with regards too gear and spares?

maybe some stuff i haven,t thought of?

tpft wrote:since this is my first event (though doing gymkhana bop club day b4)
thought i,d ask you experiannced old salts what i need too bring.
with regards too gear and spares?

maybe some stuff i haven,t thought of?

vehicle too have fire extinguisher, ideally your own tow rope, helmet. Usual story with rated recovery hooks etc. Take basic tools, but basically if you break its usually game over for the day unless its something simple.
Take your own food (some clubs put on a bbq at end of day) sunscreen, plenty of fluid for yourself (and vehicle). If its a trailered vehicle make sure you have enough fuel - you would be suprised the number of people that have run out half way throught the day. Enrty fee $20 - $25.
Think thats about it...

See there are some class changes effecting A class vehicles, from what i understand
A class is Rego and wof with no traction aids
A+ is rego and wof with traction aids
B is 4,6,and 8 cyl open diffs (must be non road legel, doesnt say)
C is 4,6,8 with traction aids

BlackCruiser wrote:See there are some class changes effecting A class vehicles, from what i understand
A class is Rego and wof with no traction aids
A+ is rego and wof with traction aids
B is 4,6,and 8 cyl open diffs (must be non road legel, doesnt say)
C is 4,6,8 with traction aids

yep - I voted for the change - I couldn't see why my factory diff locks had an advantage over those without

BlackCruiser wrote:
A class is Rego and wof with no traction aids
A+ is rego and wof with traction aids
B is 4,6,and 8 cyl open diffs (must be non road legel, doesnt say)
C is 4,6,8 with traction aids

Woooo Hoooo ! !.....

that puts me in A+ class

BrentC wrote:

BlackCruiser wrote:See there are some class changes effecting A class vehicles, from what i understand
A class is Rego and wof with no traction aids
A+ is rego and wof with traction aids
B is 4,6,and 8 cyl open diffs (must be non road legel, doesnt say)
C is 4,6,8 with traction aids

yep - I voted for the change - I couldn't see why my factory diff locks had an advantage over those without

I would of thought factory diff locks would of had an advantage over the same class of vehicle without lockers but the classes look fair, there are plenty of 4cyl kickin the 8cyl

wopass wrote:

BlackCruiser wrote:
A class is Rego and wof with no traction aids
A+ is rego and wof with traction aids
B is 4,6,and 8 cyl open diffs (must be non road legel, doesnt say)
C is 4,6,8 with traction aids

Woooo Hoooo ! !.....

that puts me in A+ class

Burglar

BlackCruiser wrote:

wopass wrote:

BlackCruiser wrote:
A class is Rego and wof with no traction aids
A+ is rego and wof with traction aids
B is 4,6,and 8 cyl open diffs (must be non road legel, doesnt say)
C is 4,6,8 with traction aids

Woooo Hoooo ! !.....

that puts me in A+ class

Burglar

dunno about that mate, if i recall the last couple of times ive been to peg days i get my arse kicked by just about everyone !.... might have somthing to do with twin lockers and being jacked to the moon for clearance ....... either that or im just a shitty peg driver

wopass wrote:

BlackCruiser wrote:
A class is Rego and wof with no traction aids
A+ is rego and wof with traction aids
B is 4,6,and 8 cyl open diffs (must be non road legel, doesnt say)
C is 4,6,8 with traction aids

Woooo Hoooo ! !.....

that puts me in A+ class

That also was the idea - means those with tricked out club trucks don't have to do the riskier and harder b and c track and those shinier A's can compete on even field

Man The 50's got its work cut out for it in C class then eh

DieselBoy wrote:Man The 50's got its work cut out for it in C class then eh

lucky your in a different class to me eh.... wouldnt want to have you kicking my arse in the fiddy

same hazzards, (nearly)i figure any time the fiddy cleans a section and u don,t...............................its a arse kicking.

go the fiddys..............