Offroad-Express

your avitar picture is diffrent to, I have never seen a human do a hand stand on the toilet bowl and shit in the toilet ,

Well now all i need is ball joints spacers and them 33'' tires,

Also added a fart canon to the rear,

There goes the departure angle


And do I need a cert for the body lift?,

Yes you do. (got $400 laying about)

Heath

Heath wrote:Also added a fart canon to the rear,

There goes the departure angle


And do I need a cert for the body lift?,

Yes you do. (got $400 laying about)

Heath

yea i do have $400 laying arround lol, And another $400 for some new 33''s

And it didn't have a departure angle the focking tow bar took care of that

cert for lift ,hmmmmmm get it covered in cow sh#t day before wof check they will never know..........

unsure i have never been asked about it at vtnz here you can only try or do the above theyll want it gone asap

Thanks for the body lift tony,

It will brobly go in after i get some 33'' wheels so hopfully soon:D, Hopfuly ive got enouth money in the bank to buy them 33''s

make sure all the cert stuff is done before forking out for cert.

went thru to hamilton, to get some 33x13.5'' mudzials, jesus crist dans truck is a focking beast ,

NOw all i need are some gears Bj spacers and a cert ,

Picks to come

Any one selling cheap 15x8'' Rims for my mudzilas?

Dude, you had $600 to spend modifying your truck for better offroad use and you did what... bought a boost gauge and a big-bore muffler? The body lift kit won't help you much either since you will need cert for that and all it will really get you is room for 35" tyres... and you've only got 33's... with no rims.

You're not listening to any of the advice you're getting at all. That $600 would have got you a front locker that would have quadrupled your offroad ability on the tyres you had - tell me what your bling gauge and (a shudder to call it one) 'muffler' will do to help? The muffler will be gone first time you get half way up a steep bank and have to back down again because you didn't make it (you would have made it if you'd spent the cash on the locker tho)... because when you back down, the tip will dig into the dirt, crumpling the body of it and folding up the pipe so the engine can't breathe, causing it to overhead and stuff the head...

Of course you might get lucky and that might not happen... but whats the point? As you said, it still sounds the same (its a diesel, you'll be hard pressed to get any exhaust mods at all to make it sound any different, short of removing the entire exhaust - and even then it won't be that loud).

My 2c, you wasted your cash on pointless things that will make it less of a 4WD. If you ask for advice here at least be prepared to take it... and if you want some bling bling show-pony boy-racer car then sell the surf and buy a skyline or something like that. If you want a better 4WD then take the exhaust off and sell it - use what you get to make the truck better.

Steve

Hooray for someone who has some sense at last. Well done Steve (although if past performance is anything to go by, he won't listen to you in any way, shape or form).
Jas, if you are going to argue and ignore the advice people give you from here, then stop posting all your sh*t!. And i don't give a flying f**k if you are 12, 15 or 35 years old, If you ask reasonable questions, and get answers that match, why do do you then ignore all of it?

SupraLux wrote:Dude, you had $600 to spend modifying your truck for better offroad use and you did what... bought a boost gauge and a big-bore muffler? The body lift kit won't help you much either since you will need cert for that and all it will really get you is room for 35" tyres... and you've only got 33's... with no rims.

You're not listening to any of the advice you're getting at all. That $600 would have got you a front locker that would have quadrupled your offroad ability on the tyres you had - tell me what your bling gauge and (a shudder to call it one) 'muffler' will do to help? The muffler will be gone first time you get half way up a steep bank and have to back down again because you didn't make it (you would have made it if you'd spent the cash on the locker tho)... because when you back down, the tip will dig into the dirt, crumpling the body of it and folding up the pipe so the engine can't breathe, causing it to overhead and stuff the head...

Of course you might get lucky and that might not happen... but whats the point? As you said, it still sounds the same (its a diesel, you'll be hard pressed to get any exhaust mods at all to make it sound any different, short of removing the entire exhaust - and even then it won't be that loud).

My 2c, you wasted your cash on pointless things that will make it less of a 4WD. If you ask for advice here at least be prepared to take it... and if you want some bling bling show-pony boy-racer car then sell the surf and buy a skyline or something like that. If you want a better 4WD then take the exhaust off and sell it - use what you get to make the truck better.

Steve

rokhound wrote:Hooray for someone who has some sense at last. Well done Steve (although if past performance is anything to go by, he won't listen to you in any way, shape or form).
Jas, if you are going to argue and ignore the advice people give you from here, then stop posting all your sh*t!. And i don't give a flying f**k if you are 12, 15 or 35 years old, If you ask reasonable questions, and get answers that match, why do do you then ignore all of it?

I was listning to some one, And still am TONY (Taz01) And the big bore thingy was free from my brother inlaw and the Boost gauge was only to see how much boost i was putting out, So i still have $260 Left For rims,
And now i have a job and more then $600 to spend,

I have been in Tony's truck and like it, All he has is a 65mm body lift, And 33x12.5'' wheels, And a 2.8l, And its goes just as much places as jerry's cruiser with lockers does!,

Now you can't say i aint been lisning,

And how many ifs surfs do you see with 35'' wheels under there gaurds? We get enouth rub with 33''s!

Ive even tryed to improve my spelling and inglish for you fullas,

good comments steve and rok,
mate what you need to do it get out on the tracks in your truck and see how it goes, out of your 5 million posts im not sure that i have seen any of you actually out there doing it. how on earth can you expect to build a better truck when you don't even no what yours is lacking?? we have all tried to give you the best advise possible from our own experiance and trial and error and its become a little like bashing our heads against a wall.
Your truck is ifs with an open diff we have all been there and at times its very frustrating but they can be great trucks for a low cost. Sure they can go alot of places but usually it means some heavy duty jandle to build momentum which is pretty hard on your truck.
Funny enough ya can fit 33's without a body lift and with 33's and a front locker and getting rid of that tow bar and muffler you would have a nice truck

rangimotors wrote:good comments steve and rok,
mate what you need to do it get out on the tracks in your truck and see how it goes, out of your 5 million posts im not sure that i have seen any of you actually out there doing it. how on earth can you expect to build a better truck when you don't even no what yours is lacking?? we have all tried to give you the best advise possible from our own experiance and trial and error and its become a little like bashing our heads against a wall.
Your truck is ifs with an open diff we have all been there and at times its very frustrating but they can be great trucks for a low cost. Sure they can go alot of places but usually it means some heavy duty jandle to build momentum which is pretty hard on your truck.
Funny enough ya can fit 33's without a body lift and with 33's and a front locker and getting rid of that tow bar and muffler you would have a nice truck

I would get rid of the stupid tow bar, but i can't I need it to tow the the trailor,

I will probly get rid of the muffler, but IT is better then the old pipe sticking outa the back, the old one was sticking down about 2 inches lower then the one on there now, So i dont see how it could be and worse then the over one it just makes it look silly, Witch i don't realy care, it was free and i added it?,

after i get the rims i will probly get the lokka, but i dont need the locka for the offroading ill be doing arround here, Just for places like rally woods that ill probly only do once or twice a year,

is it an option to make your tow bar removable or mount it up higher? on my surf i had the factory pipe but tucked up as close to the tail gate as possible and still every time i went out i bent it and ripped it on rocks etc just because it was free is it worth destroying? they are worth good money and only my opinion but i think a straight peice of pipe coming out behind the rear wheel or tucked up just under the tail gate would look better.

Each to his own

rangimotors wrote:is it an option to make your tow bar removable or mount it up higher? on my surf i had the factory pipe but tucked up as close to the tail gate as possible and still every time i went out i bent it and ripped it on rocks etc just because it was free is it worth destroying? they are worth good money and only my opinion but i think a straight peice of pipe coming out behind the rear wheel or tucked up just under the tail gate would look better.

Each to his own

Well i would make it removable, But It's welded to the chassis because wen i got it, It was ripping the chassis apart so DJ Made up some brakets to strengthen it, And welded it,
Aint come apart yet and ive landed on it a few times,

And the back of the trailor is just about touching the ground as it is so can't mount it up higher

I geuss i could do that, Ill just have to find some straight pipe now,










I have to admit it does look good from the rear

86-surf wrote:
I was listning to some one, And still am TONY (Taz01) And the big bore thingy was free from my brother inlaw and the Boost gauge was only to see how much boost i was putting out, So i still have $260 Left For rims,
And now i have a job and more then $600 to spend,

I have been in Tony's truck and like it, All he has is a 65mm body lift, And 33x12.5'' wheels, And a 2.8l, And its goes just as much places as jerry's cruiser with lockers does!,
And how many ifs surfs do you see with 35'' wheels under there gaurds? We get enouth rub with 33''s!,

ok dude theres some good advice in previous comments that i would like you to consider.....
1 lose the muffler....
2 lose the towbar....or have removable one made...

now my truck goes where jerry goes with his lockers cause i drive hard very hard tends to break things hard
now i gather you cannot afford to drive yours in this manner cause you will spend more time doing repairs than 4wheelin
if i had the money i would have a front locker ,slip rear, spring lift, decent tyres but i dont but have a well equipped workshop and the skills to stay mobile .
whoever suggested 35s has never driven a 2.4 surf with em on it just wont have enough power and wont fit unless you chop the guards

taz01 wrote:whoever suggested 35s has never driven a 2.4 surf with em on it just wont have enough power and wont fit unless you chop the guards

I did, and I have, and they do, and you don't.

And as to my first post, it wasn't meant to be quite so inflammatory, but I do hate seeing money wasted on 4WDs on pointless things... now you have a job, get DJ to make a new crossbar for the towbar sideplates, and have a square receiver hitch welded into it - see the pics of one I built for a guy a couple of years back... then go to a towbar place and order a tongue with the right amount of drop to get the ball at the right height. You can then also fit things like removable hooks etc when you need them.

Do it something like this, then bring the exhaust pipe out the side just behind the left rear wheel and you'll be right as rain.




Or read this thread on it:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4972

Steve

get DJ to make a new crossbar for the towbar sideplates,

errr thanks for volunteering me thats ok Ill do it because I'm Mr tight arse when it comes to spending money as well ( Ill get you one day Steve... )I dont want to get into a match of whos truck is better than someones, as trucks are used in different enviroments. But I think that Jase has asked for advise and wether he takes it or not then thats his own desion... We dont want to all end up with the same 4wd's as we would all be driving Toyota's. Jase if you are doing nothing on the week end I strongly suggest you come for a ride thats a ride not a drive then you may ? see how a 4wd can be made to preform very well against comp vehicals with very little money being spent. When people give advise please qualify it by giving a reason why you would do such and such.. then its up to Jase to make up his mind? Then we can kick the shit out of him for getting a bling bling muffler and putting photos up here ... I get first kicking thou!! now go to bed as I have to take to Captain Morgan and the crew...

Jase, as soon as your've got your restricted your coming for a skid with me and bringing your truck ok? We gota get it totally covered in mud and have some fun.

You'll be amazed how far your truck will be able to go even just standard

OK?

DEAL





DAN

Jase before you venture out to get muddy in your "beast" can you drop by... I'm a bit concerned as you have had a body lift of 65 mm yet you havent mentioned anything about steering shaft lenghtening or are your brake hoses able to extend through the full amount of travel, and hows the fuel tank filler,what about the clutch pipe/hose, shock travel.. just to mention a few. 65mm lift must be a shit to drive around corners..???yes you do need a cert and cow shit will not cover up anything... bad advise

DJ wrote:Jase before you venture out to get muddy in your "beast" can you drop by... I'm a bit concerned as you have had a body lift of 65 mm yet you haven't mentioned anything about steering shaft lengthening or are your brake hoses able to extend through the full amount of travel, and hows the fuel tank filler,what about the clutch pipe/hose, shock travel.. just to mention a few. 65mm lift must be a shit to drive around corners..???yes you do need a cert and cow shit will not cover up anything... bad advise

um no i made him 50mm lift blocks and gave instructions on what to check for when doing lift, fuel filler ,steering ,brake lines and gear shift mod other than that there no problems ,i did the screw up of 65mm and yes the steering did part company on a little slope called dreamer , yes he will need a cert as stated vtnz in lower hutt have never pulled me up yet........

nzhunter wrote:Jase, as soon as your've got your restricted your coming for a skid with me and bringing your truck ok? We gota get it totally covered in mud and have some fun.

You'll be amazed how far your truck will be able to go even just standard

OK?

DEAL





DAN

deal but thats 40 days till i get my restricted.

DJ wrote:

get DJ to make a new crossbar for the towbar sideplates,

errr thanks for volunteering me thats ok Ill do it because I'm Mr tight arse when it comes to spending money as well ( Ill get you one day Steve... )I dont want to get into a match of whos truck is better than someones, as trucks are used in different enviroments. But I think that Jase has asked for advise and wether he takes it or not then thats his own desion... We dont want to all end up with the same 4wd's as we would all be driving Toyota's. Jase if you are doing nothing on the week end I strongly suggest you come for a ride thats a ride not a drive then you may ? see how a 4wd can be made to preform very well against comp vehicals with very little money being spent. When people give advise please qualify it by giving a reason why you would do such and such.. then its up to Jase to make up his mind? Then we can kick the shit out of him for getting a bling bling muffler and putting photos up here ... I get first kicking thou!! now go to bed as I have to take to Captain Morgan and the crew...


Jase before you venture out to get muddy in your "beast" can you drop by... I'm a bit concerned as you have had a body lift of 65 mm yet you havent mentioned anything about steering shaft lenghtening or are your brake hoses able to extend through the full amount of travel, and hows the fuel tank filler,what about the clutch pipe/hose, shock travel.. just to mention a few. 65mm lift must be a shit to drive around corners..???yes you do need a cert and cow shit will not cover up anything... bad advise

Yes i will drop by wen ever suits you,

The body lift aint in yet,.

And if your going to do it, How much will it cost you DJ?,

My weekend is free i think, if it's not ill be sure to tell you

hmmmm 40 days .... that means you can bring it down to Rallywoods at Queens Birthday Weekend

How much will it cost you DJ?,

an't costing me diddlie squat but it may cost you ...one day maybe..
Im off to Rarotonga on the 1st April and have about 2 race motors and a gearbox to rebuild before I go and my inconsiderate boss wants me to work for him as well, so you better be quick...

ok well how much will it cost me then.

And What weekend are you going out, i aint doing nothing this weekend and ive told the parents i am not useabile this weekend, So what's happening this weekend???,

I didn't know how much a lock right locker was, untill this thread viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10000, So now im saving hard to get that bumper and some rims for my wheels and this, but i don't know what offset to get? Any one know what offset to get? thanks

my locker was 550 if thats any help.

ok so 400 nz sounds prity good then? That's if the fulla that said it was 400 all up was corect

yea that depends on what the extrange rate does etc, might be worth ore doing a bulk buy from somewhere and trying to get discount im sure there would be a fair bit of interest.

I'm running -18 offset 15x8 steel rims with my 33's, but if I had the choice again id go with -24 for just a little more clearance.
They were $85 each from Dury Tires / South Auckland.

also heres a pic of the rear bar i made up for my surf



food for thought