V8 Land Rover project

[niblik]

lookin great dude..

as for the spacing in the front between the radiator and the front of engine/ ancillaries, it does seem real tight at only 15mm dude, the engine/body combo will move that much when ya punt into something. have ya been able to offset the deeper part of the fans with voids between the ancillaries etc? that could be quite beneficial..

was able to do that with mine although this pic ya cant quite see the amount of room gained, ya can sorta see the idea i'm tryin to get across, even if my engrish is a rittle rough..

[Petemcc]

Looking good pete! make sure you let me know when you get her out.

[oldyella]

lookin great dude..

as for the spacing in the front between the radiator and the front of engine/ ancillaries, it does seem real tight at only 15mm

Yip I have done. It might be more like 20mm but its definately a close fit. Iv got a plan B to change the existing transmission cooler to a "bar" type inline with the front cross member. This means I should be able to move the radiator forward 20mm. Its a bit of re-work so will see how its goes on its outing...

Looking good pete! make sure you let me know when you get her out.

Definately mate. Keen to tow a hilux anyday

[MNC]

lookin great dude..

as for the spacing in the front between the radiator and the front of engine/ ancillaries, it does seem real tight at only 15mm

Yip I have done. It might be more like 20mm but its definately a close fit. Iv got a plan B to change the existing transmission cooler to a "bar" type inline with the front cross member. This means I should be able to move the radiator forward 20mm. Its a bit of re-work so will see how its goes on its outing...

Mate, looking awesome

Cooling is one of the 2 teething issues I have to sort out. The 12" Electric fan I bought is only about 20mm from the dual pulleys (new power steer setup - which is the second teething issue )

I'm going to have my radiator flushed but someone recommended 'Water Weta' (sp) to me which is sold at BNT as an impressive additive that drops operating temps.

[oldyella]

The 12" Electric fan I bought is only about 20mm from the dual pulleys

Did your engine much your fan? Or just not enough cooling?

[MNC]

The 12" Electric fan I bought is only about 20mm from the dual pulleys

Did your engine much your fan? Or just not enough cooling?

Fan was the biggest I could fit in there but its not sucking as much air as I would like.

My current thinking is that the Radiator is partially blocked. Hopefully a good clean from a professional radiator shop will help solve the issue. Might also replace the thermostat.

[oldyella]

A single 12" does sound a bit light.

When I was looking at various fans I think two 10" fans were about the same as a single 14" fan for CFM rating.

So if you could fit two 10" fans in instead of the 12", it should be an improvement if the clean doesn't sort the problem.

[oldyella]

I would be interested in hearing peoples experiences with the need for a fuel surge tank in offroaders.

Im just running the standard series landrover fuel pickup inside the tank with an external fuel pump.

I'v just ordered all the bits needed to plumb up the fuel lines with braided stainless line and alloy fittings.

If I need to put a surge tank in, now would be the time...

[niblik]

nibbys vomitron = stocko stylings....

[L-andy]

I am guessing (without going back through entire build) that your tank is under the seatbox? If so you will be all good.

I run two tanks on the Defender. Stock 110 rear tank and a series under-seat jobbie as a "off-road" tank. Both have ther own stock pumps and pick-ups and I can switch between them.

The rear tank will starve the pump on steep slopes if the tank is getting low cos pick-up is in the middle and the tank is wide and shallow. The front tank is the opposite, tall and narrow. I would be past tipping point before I would starve the pump on the front tank.

Andy

[oldyella]

I was more wondering how sensitive injected engines are to having a small amount of air pumped through the injection rail.

I would think it is less of an issue with a carby engine.

My tanks are under the seat and are tall and narrow so maybe i can get away without a surge tank.

[Pedro]

I was more wondering how sensitive injected engines are to having a small amount of air pumped through the injection rail.

I would think it is less of an issue with a carby engine.

My tanks are under the seat and are tall and narrow so maybe i can get away without a surge tank.

if the pump gets a lung full of air the motor will die momentarily, as the pump cant make pressure with air in it, but as soon as you get fuel back in pump it will run virtually striaght away. unnerving when rally driving sideways down the road and the motor cuts out

Cheers

Pedro

[oldyella]

These are the sliders I've been workin on.

Pipe bender is from super cheap

Filled pipe with sand and tickled former to get it to bend properly

Still a work in progress but looking alright so far

[oldyella]

We'll after a bit of deliberation I've decided to install a fuel surge tank. Main reason is I don't fancy stalling during a hill climb.

Space is tight so its going to need to be a custom made job. Have decided to make it out of 100mm x 100mm box section 220mm long. It should be approx 1.7 liters capacity.

I just need to weld up the ends then weld on some M12 x 1.5 nuts in the right places then can screw in some M12 x 1.5 to -AN6 adaptors and I'm in business.

It will just fit under the passenger seat on top of the chassis rail.

Apparently your meant to use a low pressure pump but I just brought another identical Benz pump off Trademe so now I've got three

I did a test to see how well the Benz pumps suck fuel and it seemed fine, only a few seconds to suck though 6m of hose so 40cm won't be a problem.

Was hoping to get it running during Easter but not looking so hopeful now

[tomsoffroad]

Apparently your meant to use a low pressure pump but I just brought another identical Benz pump off Trademe so now I've got three

Usually youd run a low pressure pump from primary tank to surge with an over flow at top of surge tank to spill back into primary tank. This keeps your surge tank full all the time.
As mentioned, not nice having engine cut out halfway up a hill

[niblik]

We'll after a bit of deliberation I've decided to install a fuel surge tank. Main reason is I don't fancy stalling during a hill climb.

Space is tight so its going to need to be a custom made job. Have decided to make it out of 100mm x 100mm box section 220mm long. It should be approx 1.7 liters capacity.

It will just fit under the passenger seat on top of the chassis rail.

good idea on the surge tank thing guy.. just wondering, you say ya gonna run a bit of box section? so the pick up feeding the engine is going to be from where on the box surge tank? i only ask as if ya put it at the lower front, hillclimbs may be an issue and vice versa..

not hasslin, just curious as to your plans..

and dont worry about easter, keep at it, you're nearly there! and good stuff with ya sliders too.. theyre lookin very coolies styles..

[mike]

stand it on end and youll never have a problem

[oldyella]

Usually youd run a low pressure pump from primary tank to surge with an over flow at top of surge tank to spill back into primary tank. This keeps your surge tank full all the time.
As mentioned, not nice having engine cut out halfway up a hill

Yip this is what im doing but using a high pressure pump so I have three identical pumps.

1 to surge tank
1 to engine
1 for transfer between tanks

[oldyella]

good idea on the surge tank thing guy.. just wondering, you say ya gonna run a bit of box section? so the pick up feeding the engine is going to be from where on the box surge tank? i only ask as if ya put it at the lower front, hillclimbs may be an issue and vice versa..

not hasslin, just curious as to your plans..

Thinking of taking it out of the side at the bottom.

Usually the surge tank is completely full so you have to be running with the pump from the main tank sucking air until the fuel in the surge tank is consumed.

For short periods you could go up to stupid tilt angles and not have any interruption in fuel supply to the engine .

For long periods of minor tilt, if it dies - be less of a cheapskate and put some more gas in the main tank.

In my case, put some across from the reserve tank .

[oldyella]

Well the surge tank ended up being made out of 3" pipe because thats what I had lying around.

Its about 1litre capacity which is about the smallest you would go I think.


Mocked up on the bench


Sitting in place


I'm going to take it to an engineering shop to get it brazed as then it shouldn't have any pin hole leaks.

Started connecting up the transfer pump. There is a pre-filter in there as well.



The transfer pumps and pump which feeds the engine sitting in place. Can't do to much more until the surge tank is ready to go.

Brought one more fuel pump to feed the surge tank. Hoping to sit it on top of the chassis rail



Hopefully next photos it will be all plumbed up meaning it will run again

[NRS91]

had to join just to say epic build! love this truck! keep up the good work!

[oldyella]

had to join just to say epic build! love this truck! keep up the good work!

Thanks mate,

The surge tank is ment to be finished up by friday and the extra fuel fittings I need have arrived so hopefully from this weekend I'll have a landrover that goes

I'll put up some pics after the weekend.

Cheers,

Pete

[niblik]

pics? pah!

vids fella!

[oldyella]

Duly noted Nibz.

I can run it right up to temp as the fans are sorted and iv got a temp guage to keep an eye on things.

Will be the first time I'v seen what the oil pressure is like as well .

Also got power to the transfer case solinoid which means I can select lowbox

Power steer lines are done with new steering box as well so i'll need to get filled up with fluid and test.

I'v got an accelerator pedal sorted now so it will be a bit easier to drive compared to pulling on the cable

It wasn't running quite right last time I fired it up. Hopefully after some new sparkplugs it'll run on 8 this time. Or maybe I just had acidentally left an HT lead off

Bring on the weekend

[oldyella]

We'll its up and running

Two small wiring phuckups needed fixed.

No vids as the missus put the camara down in the garage and now its no where to be seen I'll keep looking for it.

I keep thinking its to quite for a V8 but maybe not as one of the neighbours rocked around said the noise was driving his old lady up the wall

It'll probably get a little louder yet since the muffler and coby are brand new.

Sounds nice and V8 like at idle and can't here any cylinders missing.

Doesn't sound quite right holding the revs at 2000 - 2500, kinda like a cylinder missing but might just be tuning. Pulled all the plugs and there all a bit black so hopefully a bit of a drive under load and keep dialing in the tuning with the MSII will sort it.

Already thinking of moving the fuel pumps from where I put them to under the deck inside a box to quiten them down. With two of them running its quite loud and ruins the v8 ness.

Something a bit more interesting than my ramblings to come when the camara is found.

[niblik]

Much woot fella!

[oldyella]

Back from Sims Brakes and I have a series 2 landrover with four wheel disc brakes. Its weird having brakes that work so good

Just need to fix the alternator that's not putting out any charge so I can drive long distance.

The alternator charge light doesn't come on when I turn the key on. It did when I first wired the alternator up.

It didn't take long for it to stop working, I think it happened while I was winding the starter motor over for ages the first time I started it (flooded it something wicked, got new plugs fired up first pop)

I checked the brushes, there a bit shagged but don't look like the problem.

Instead of using a bulb, I used a red "12V" LED so I suppose there is a resistor in there to make it rated at 12V.

LED still works fine.

Wiring to alternator has continuity

Seems a bit odd that it would just stop working straight away.

Any auto sparkys out there?

Cheers,

Pete

[turoa]

Na you can't use an led unless it can pass alot of current. I had to use a high stop light full of leds to get mine going haha. Throw a bulb in there and see if that gets it going

[DieselBoy]

Yep I second that.

Did the same thing with Thunderguts, put in a nice LED but it didn't flow enough current to excite the alternator.

Put a light in with a bulb and it all worked fine.

Don't you love it when its a simple fix

[oldyella]

We'll it turns out that wiring it up with a bulb would be to easy

Wiring up the alternator with the LED has some how fried the field exciter electrics.

Hopefully will replace the electrics, wire up with a bulb and will be in business.

Cheers,

Pete