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Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:44 pm
by haynzy
surely the weight distribution of the truck has something to do with it, if one wheel has gone up as far as it can gothat extra bit of down travel cant hurt, also keeps the truck more level, I set my lux up with about 15deg of shackle angle in the back as this also swallows the bumps abit better, I also have the front shocks sloping down towards the front much the same as a mx bike works well for me.
By the way if coils were any good crumpy would have had em :wink:

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:59 am
by SMOKEY
Hi Richard, over the years on 4WD trips I have witnessed three cam belt breakages, these have broken prematurely and seems to be caused by grit, mud, water and or sticks getting between the belts and pulleys. Two have been 3L Toyota's and one a 2.5 Mitzi . Have you had any trouble ? and how have you sealed your 5L cam belt cover.

FITZY.

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:23 am
by hosehustler
SMOKEY wrote:Hi Richard, over the years on 4WD trips I have witnessed three cam belt breakages, these have broken prematurely and seems to be caused by grit, mud, water and or sticks getting between the belts and pulleys. Two have been 3L Toyota's and one a 2.5 Mitzi . Have you had any trouble ? and how have you sealed your 5L cam belt cover.

FITZY.


Good question Kevin, I have also seen a Disco Diesel let go recently.

Another question for you Richard, when you were doing the coil front end why didn't you go for Range rover springs, shocks, and control arms on the toyota housing?

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:42 pm
by SMOKEY
Tim , Richard answered the Rangie question early on in the thread (not sure what page), to do with Nissan (did I say that word) coil diameter being bigger and the chassis end of the control arms, Pins verse Eyes. I'm sure Richard will get back on this, Janet must have him out shopping :lol: :lol: :lol: .

And another :?: what are two PETROL HEAD :arrow: CART SPRING die harts doing asking these :?: 's :wink: .

NEVER SAY NEVER,

FITZY.

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:57 pm
by U-BOAT
Are you running wheelspacers on the back now Richard? The axle seems to be in alot further than the flange of the rim? Your big tyres rubbing were they?

Uboat

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:43 pm
by Bulletproof
SMOKEY wrote:Hi Richard, over the years on 4WD trips I have witnessed three cam belt breakages, these have broken prematurely and seems to be caused by grit, mud, water and or sticks getting between the belts and pulleys. Two have been 3L Toyota's and one a 2.5 Mitzi . Have you had any trouble ? and how have you sealed your 5L cam belt cover.

FITZY.

Hi Fitzy
Big shopping list today.

About the cam belts I have never had this trouble nor have I seen it . The belts wern't replaced at the port workshop were they ? :lol: :lol: :lol:
The seal on the timing belt cover is a fairly good fit and it makes me wonder if someone didnt fit it properly because if you dont take the radiator out to change a belt it is hard to see at the bottom and you can easily knock it.

I have stuffed the front crankshaft oil seal big time in the mother bog up the Glenroy. The bog had 3-4 ft of water in it and the pressure forced grit up the drain vent at the bottom of the camcover. It threw 3 litres of oil out from Murchison to Nelson.

About Tims question now. A range rover was my first choice but because I have 70 series Box section diff it wouldn't fit so went for the Nissan instead. A range rover would work on the prado diff you have i'm sure because they are round.

Have a good weekend
Richard

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:49 pm
by Bulletproof
U-BOAT wrote:Are you running wheelspacers on the back now Richard? The axle seems to be in alot further than the flange of the rim? Your big tyres rubbing were they?

Uboat

You are dead right .I have fitted 25mm ones to the front as well and the steering lock is miles better. Flag has a wide surf diff in the shed and said I could have it but because of the coil setup and my modified shock mounts thought it was easier to fit spacers.
I have to ring flag tonite about the perserverance trip. Might see you on sunday.

Cheers Richard

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:00 pm
by Bulletproof
haynzy wrote:
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Cheers Richard

That shackle angles steep cant have too much down travel on those springs[/quote]

I have never claimed to have a lot of articulation and as I have said before with double diff locks you dont need it. What the pictures show is not the maximin as it was still 20mms from touching the front bump stop as I couldn't get any higher on the loading ramp. Showing about 800mm

I have also said I do the exact opposite of most people with most travel up to keep positive pressure on the wheels.

The secret with Leaf springs is to remove the ties and take the stress out of the springs.

Here are some pictures of my articulation and what happens to the springs

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Notice the coil on the top of diff putting positive pressure on the dropped wheel

Also notice the shackle has gone straight but the wheel drops further without the tie on the spring

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Cheers Richard

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:38 am
by Bulletproof
Hung up on a boulder trying to get across a west coast river last weekend

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Richard

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:44 am
by nuts
hey richard was a good day out those rocks were bigger than they look in the pic :twisted:

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:24 am
by mudzilla
Bulletproof wrote:Hung up on a boulder trying to get across a west coast river last weekend

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Richard


Oh..So it does get stuck...I'm in shock !! :D

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:43 am
by Sadam_Husain
mudzilla wrote:Oh..So it does get stuck...I'm in shock !! :D


wash your mouth out mudzilla...... it was the boulders fault :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:48 am
by mudzilla
I new it..There had to be a trick.. :) Faith is restored, Thanks.

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:38 pm
by Bulletproof
This will destoy your faith Wayne. Perfect driver and perfect truck, mud was a fault this time. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

On the Westcoast Queen Birthday 2008

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Cheers Richard

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:04 pm
by mudzilla
HaHa...There have been a few photo's of my truck on a tow rope, But I swear it was a trick, It was actually a PUSH rope. :lol:

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:21 pm
by fisho
[Bugger, those boulders wernt big enough. Have to find some better ones for the next trip. Was a good training run for the newer guys and a good day out. :D :D
cheers flag.size=200][/size]/size]

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:37 pm
by mudzilla
Your winch is quick..?

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:44 pm
by Bulletproof
nuts wrote:hey richard was a good day out those rocks were bigger than they look in the pic :twisted:


Its a bit off topic but only "NUTS" would walk a river 1st. I couldn't help it Nuts.

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Cheers Richard

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:49 pm
by Bulletproof
mudzilla wrote:Your winch is quick..?


Thats the Warn 9500ti. I have had it 2 years now and am very pleased. It has the water proof seals and when winding in with no load you have to stop 1 metre from the winch because the speed does the rest.

cheers Richard

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:46 pm
by nuts
Its a bit off topic but only "NUTS" would walk a river 1st. I couldn't help it Nuts.

Cheers Richard[/quote]

thats ok richard i have sum pics of this weekend i will post up :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:uploading pics of your truck at moment :roll: :roll:

:lol: :lol:

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:02 pm
by nuts
not a gentle trip

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these are some of the rocks arround there

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oops richard were you waltzing :twisted: :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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oops sorry for the highjack ill post the rest in a better place

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:13 pm
by rokhound
where is that?
Looks kinda interesting :twisted:

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:23 am
by fisho
Its in the stony river, a tributary of the inangahua.We were looking fot the lost tribe but they eluded us so we will have to go back again.
flag.

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:14 pm
by Shane
Flag,did you end up getting some of those silverstone tyre's?

You were talking about it on the O.R.E westport trip some time ago.

Shane

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:30 pm
by albundy
pretty sure flag bought his the week before I bought mine.

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:43 pm
by Bulletproof
albundy wrote:pretty sure flag bought his the week before I bought mine.


Yes Flag bought 35 simexs a while back. He didn't use them last weekend.

Janet got a ride across Stony river with Flag and this is how it looked from inside his truck. It is not an easy crossing because it is hard to see the right line between the boulders

It is the boulders in a metre of water that is the problem

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Cheers Richard

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:57 pm
by Jafa
Now that looks like a pile of fun! 8) 8)

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:59 pm
by Chopper01
Fark yea I want to go there when the water level drops :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:45 am
by H2OLOVA
Chopper01 wrote:Fark yea I want to go there when the water level drops :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:



Nothing wrong with that water level ya pussy :wink: Unless you drive around without a snorkle then you can end up stuffing your engine.......oh thats right you did :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: "bulletproofs" hilux specs

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:40 am
by fisho
Hi Shane, I did get some of those 35'' Silverstones but have to do a couplle more mods to the truck before i fit them. Was still running the old semi bald 32'' simexes on this trip.Wasnt much mud, just a few gnarly boulders to clamber over.From what i understand we were the first vehicles thru this track for over 20 years.
flag.