"Jafa's Jalopy"...3RZ-FE and on 40's:)

[Jafa]

how about a pic of the "road" rash townie

Here ya go, didnt do fawk all damage, fixed teh fibreglass already

Hmm?
Interesting how the shots are all tightly cropped.
What is the top of the door/cab like then Aye.

Certainly a great viewpoint to look at your Chassis engineering

Keep up the good work Flopsie!

nah it did next to nothing to the cab, squashed the rain channel a smidge thats all, didnt even touch the door. i would have posted shots if they were worth it

[Andrew1706]

Were you belted in or do the rolling round the cab trick?

[Jafa]

Were you belted in or do the rolling round the cab trick?

I wasnt belted in, but the race seats hold my fat ass really well , and it went over slow enough that i still had to actually get out of the seat to leave the vehicle
Not that i condone "no seatbelts"....my bad

[Andrew1706]

All good, I've face planted the dash before, ended up in the roof ... sitting on the handbrake

Truck is looking mint, although I noticed the rear diff lifts off the ground pretty early? I know the front diff is on the mean angle but is the rear diffs movement a concern or how you wanted it?

[LOLYF]

You know what they say "keep the shiny side up" well i think you just did!!!

Its sure shiny underneath...The top side looks finished to me

Nah it would have to be satin black to be finished to you wouldn't it ?

[Heath]

how about a pic of the "road" rash townie

Here ya go, didnt do fawk all damage, fixed teh fibreglass already

Hmm?
Interesting how the shots are all tightly cropped.
What is the top of the door/cab like then Aye.

Certainly a great viewpoint to look at your Chassis engineering

Keep up the good work Flopsie!

Nah no worries thats just a scratch, it'll polish out.

[Jafa]

All good, I've face planted the dash before, ended up in the roof ... sitting on the handbrake

Truck is looking mint, although I noticed the rear diff lifts off the ground pretty early? I know the front diff is on the mean angle but is the rear diffs movement a concern or how you wanted it?

yeah its not ideal, but with the coil not captured, it lifts alot later, but the "point of balance" is a bit more..... "sudden" I just have to experiment with it abit .....after its exo'd

[turoa]

I run with my coils captured jafa. It makes the rear end a bit more stable rather than just falling away with it not captured. Also forces my front end to work but it does rear a point where the rear end will lift up in the air and put all the weight on the front wheels. Advantage in some places. Not in others

[Jafa]

I run with my coils captured jafa. It makes the rear end a bit more stable rather than just falling away with it not captured. Also forces my front end to work but it does rear a point where the rear end will lift up in the air and put all the weight on the front wheels. Advantage in some places. Not in others

Yes I agree, it tends to be a bit uncontrolled without them captured. My front definitely works better with the rear captured. I made some little clamp things that slide up and down the rods, so i can capture them totally or partially or not at all, just have to fiddle with it to find what i like the best, may need different coils...dunno yet

[Madaz]

Jeeze Jafa- do you know how careful I was with those guards when we had them up here

[Jafa]

:? Jeeze Jafa- do you know how careful I was with those guards when we had them up here

I did wonder what you might say when I was patching it up
Best I ring Steve for the new ones........

[Madaz]

Your not the only one whos christened there truck on the shakedown run lately- mines already starting to show a bit of tree loving - i predict a flat deck in the future.

Just to wind him up-cause i know hes on here at the moment - All the dings were on Shortyluxs side

[shortylux]

which is funny cause its not my truck!

[Jafa]

Ready to rock for its first "outdoors" trip
Took my camera, but no pics!, I was too busy wheeling the piss outta it!
Couple of things need to fix, 1st it hops on climbs and 2nd it extends the fronts suspension when it climbs, think i need to lower the chassis mounts for the lower links, and increase the length of the front lowers. other than that it went really well, pissed all over everything else that was there and no problem with any gnarly bits, hardly used the lockers, forgot them most of the time!

[H2OLOVA]

, pissed all over everything else that was there and no problem with any gnarly bits, hardly used the lockers,

did they have 40" tyres too????

[Chopper01]

, pissed all over everything else that was there and no problem with any gnarly bits, hardly used the lockers,

did they have 40" tyres too????

X2


and you forgot the huge amounts of flex

[Heath]

The rear springs are on a sliding dislocator thingee (sorry best I could come up with), would fitting a spring to the top of that remove the "flop effect" and make the front work also?

[Jafa]

Well it seems fairly obvious that I need some exterior protection so last nite I got started on my tube bender





just gotta make a few pins and brackets, hook up the hydro powerpack and bend some tube

[J_Dub]

fark im envious of you eng/fabrication people. Need some work done to ya truck, but instead of buying what ya need, ya make the tools first to make what it is you want, thats just cocky

[mroffroader]

How much do you want for it when your finished with it

[new2zukes]

farout id say, i want one hehe

[new2zukes]

looks almost identical to the ones these guys were making, makes me wana get out there and make one myself:)
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376183 there is heeps of info on there and even some plans of how to make them.

cheers
martin

[Jafa]

Yip, thats what i copied

Bent my first bit o toob tonite, works great!, now its exo time!

[Jafa]

Okee, after our little shakedown play last weekend, a couple of things I didnt like, mainly a bit of weirdness when starting to climb something steep, like a wall or the guard on the trailer. As soon as the tire came up against an object, it would extend the front suspension, raising the front end before climbing over the obstacle. Not good. After a bit of research and pm'ng a guy on pirate4x4 in the US whose a bit of a suspension guru, I have come up with a fix. We used his numbers in a 3link calculator (that I highly recommend to anyone toying with linked suspensions), and compared them to mine. His truck climbs like a mountain goat, and drives well on the seal also, but took a bit of messing to get it there, so basically he's done all the hard work
Heres mine before. The front of the truck is left hand side, blue line is the top link, red is the lower and yellow is the panhard.
As you can see, it wants to raise the front when the wheel is against an obstacle, and the roll axis is really steep ( high and flat is ideal)


after


top link is much flatter, lowers longer and flatter, goes much better, even just driving onto the trailer
better antisquat numbers, and nicer roll axis numbers. Very close to the US fellas numbers

I had to make new lower links, a new upper link mount on the axle, and move the upper link frame mount to the old lower link frame mount hole. This calc also will tell you if your links will bend with half the weight of your truck on them as well...very handy
New lowers, 50mm x 4mm wall chromoly


new upper link mount to clear panhard



I wish I'd known about this calculator when I first designed this suspension instead of just eyeballing it

[Dace]

Are ya bringin ya Toy to the BBQ on the 27th

I need to see this thing workin and get some pics and vid up here

[badnuz]

Are ya bringin ya Toy to the BBQ on the 27th

I need to see this thing workin and get some pics and vid up here

and take noteables on free rides

[Jafa]

Yip, will do

[Jafa]

Are ya bringin ya Toy to the BBQ on the 27th

I need to see this thing workin and get some pics and vid up here

and take noteables on free rides

the "noteables" can drive it so i can take pics and vid, and see what its doing from the outside

[suzolla]

Hi Jafa,

Do you have a link to the calculator as I am planning to do some mods to my Surf and Series 80.

Thanks
Tim

[Jafa]

PM me your e-mail and I'll fire them to ya, there is one for both front 3-link and rear 4 link